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Thailand or Vietnam: Retirement choices

Thailand offers foreign retirees a clearer legal route to long-term residence than Vietnam, but Vietnam can cost considerably less for those able to manage more complicated visa arrangements. For people deciding where to spend retirement in Southeast Asia, the choice in 2026 often comes down to predictable paperwork and healthcare versus lower rent and daily spending.

Thailand has developed visa options specifically for retirement. The Non-Immigrant O visa allows foreigners aged 50 and above to stay for one or more years, when renewed, for retirement purposes.

Applicants generally need a valid passport, basic medical certificate and depending on initial visa, Thai-recognised health insurance. They must also show either 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account or a monthly income of 65,000 baht.

Vietnam has no retirement visa

Vietnam does not have a dedicated retirement visa, nor a visa category based only on a person's age, pension income or retirement status. Retirees seeking a long stay must instead pursue a Temporary Residence Card through eligible work, investment or family-tie routes, or use investment and family-reunion visas.

That can involve more legal complexity than a retirement move to Thailand. Investment-linked residence may require a compliant local company, along with continuing tax filings and audits, obligations that may not suit someone who has stopped working.

For foreigners who want an established route without relying on a job, investment or family sponsorship, Thailand's retirement visa framework is therefore a major practical advantage. Conditions, including financial evidence and insurance, should nevertheless be checked before applying.

Vietnam's advantage is everyday cost

Comparisons cited by Travelbinger put Vietnam around 20-30% cheaper than Thailand for a similar expat lifestyle. Rent is estimated to be roughly 40% lower on average.

Modern one-bedroom apartments are quoted at US$300-500 in Ho Chi Minh City and US$200-350 in Da Nang. Comparable rents are put at US$400-700 in Bangkok and US$350-550 in Chiang Mai.

A comfortable retirement budget is estimated at US$800-1,200 a month in Vietnam, compared with US$1,200-1,800 in Thailand. Annual estimates put comfortable expat spending at US$22,000-30,000 in Vietnam, against US$30,000-40,000 in Bangkok.

Street-food meals are estimated at US$1-3 in Vietnam and US$2-4 in Thailand, while restaurant dinners are US$5-12 and US$8-15 respectively. Domestic beer is also said to be cheaper in Vietnam.

The gap can narrow for retirees dependent on imported food and Western amenities, which can be significantly more expensive in Vietnam. Those happy with local food are likely to see the largest savings.

Healthcare, property and daily life

Thailand's established medical-tourism sector attracts more than two million medical tourists each year, including visitors from the United States, Australia, the Middle East and Europe. Its private hospital network includes JCI-accredited facilities, English-speaking staff and short waiting times.

Vietnam does not require health insurance for any visa category. Government figures put Vietnamese medical services at about 30-50% of the cost in Singapore or Thailand, but the country currently has four JCI-accredited hospitals. The health ministry aims for at least 15 internationally standard hospitals by 2030, including five public hospitals; retirees currently rely heavily on private hospitals in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City.

Neither country lets foreigners buy land outright. Vietnam permits foreign apartment purchases on 50-year leasehold terms, while Thailand has condominium ownership rules for foreigners and an established rental market.

Thailand has also applied tax rules since 2024 to foreign-source income brought into the country in the year it is earned. Retirees moving money to Thailand may need advice on tax exposure and their home country's double-taxation treaty.

Thailand offers more established expat infrastructure, English signage, public transport and retirement services. Vietnam offers lower costs, but busier traffic, less consistent English outside major cities and a more energetic pace. For many retirees, the decision is whether those savings outweigh Thailand's clearer long-term setup.

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18 August 2026

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KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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23 minutes ago, JerryM said:

As with many criminal investigative instances, the culpability may be established by a sting.

I'm sure Vietnam will welcome all the crackdowns Thailand can throw at foreigners. 😂

JerryM Gold Member

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3 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I'm sure Vietnam will welcome all the crackdowns Thailand can throw at foreigners. 😂

It's nice to know that you're sure.

Yellowtail Star Member

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15 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I bring in way more than the 65k each month, so that's my Plan B for my Plan A, but I won't be keen wasting my time in immigration. What a PIA.

Not everyone who uses an agent can't afford the 800k / 65k.

I simply refuse to donate 800k to Thai bank, who pays a pittance.

I make Thailand work for me, not the other way around.

Oh, I was not talking about you. You only used an agent because you don't want to waste a few hours at immigration. I was taking about the guys here that live in rentals, ride scooters, bang hookers and use agents because they're skint.

We all know you are independently wealthy that owns multiple properties in Australia and club memberships and whatnot.

scubascuba3 Star Member

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Yep, partly they are on a power trip, partly they were told to by head office, of course same day requirement is a waste of everyone's time

Tourist2 Silver Member

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7 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Yep, partly they are on a power trip, partly they were told to by head office, of course same day requirement is a waste of everyone's time


As a nation they put on a good front but Thais with authority are able to show their evil side - and <deleted> me, it's usually verging on demonic.

Oh well. Them's the hoops!

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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28 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh, I was not talking about you. You only used an agent because you don't want to waste a few hours at immigration. I was taking about the guys here that live in rentals, ride scooters, bang hookers and use agents because they're skint.

The less dealings I have with any Thai government authorities the better.

Whilst some may be skint, many are just smart. The 800k, left safely in one's home country, earns more than the cost of the agent, and you don't need to waste your time at the immigration office.

I remember years ago going to the immigration office here. I needed a Certificate of Residence. I was waiting in the hot sun, along with some older guys. One of them looked like he was about to collapse and an ambulance would be needed. I felt sorry for these guys.

I thought I was well prepared, but of course, I was one photocopy short, and back to the end of the queue.

Went to an agent for the certificate, and been using agents ever since.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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11 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:


As a nation they put on a good front but Thais with authority are able to show their evil side - and <deleted> me, it's usually verging on demonic.

Oh well. Them's the hoops!

The more hoops they make, the more crackdowns they do, as soon as Vietnam announces a retirement visa, it's bye-bye Thailand for many.

Yellowtail Star Member

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8 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

The less dealings I have with any Thai government authorities the better.

Whilst some may be skint, many are just smart. The 800k, left safely in one's home country, earns more than the cost of the agent, and you don't need to waste your time at the immigration office.

I remember years ago going to the immigration office here. I needed a Certificate of Residence. I was waiting in the hot sun, along with some older guys. One of them looked like he was about to collapse and an ambulance would be needed. I felt sorry for these guys.

I thought I was well prepared, but of course, I was one photocopy short, and back to the end of the queue.

Went to an agent for the certificate, and been using agents ever since.

I hear ya, that B800K is an enormous amount to a lot of people.

Yellowtail Star Member

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20 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:


As a nation they put on a good front but Thais with authority are able to show their evil side - and <deleted> me, it's usually verging on demonic.

Oh well. Them's the hoops!

That has not been my experience. I have had dealings with any number of government agencies, and they have most all been fine.

Jingthing Legendary Member

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1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

I hear ya, that B800K is an enormous amount to a lot of people.

It is to a lot of people but I would argue it is a low number relative to other nations that welcome retired expats based on banked money.

Also if having 800K locked up is not something you can easily afford, you probably can't afford to retire anywhere else.

My issue with the Thailand retirement visa system is not the financials. They are quite fair and reasonable. They're not looking for welfare cases. The issue is that there is no path to increased residency status.

Typically countries that have retirement schemes offer permanent residency betwen instantly and five years.

Some are like Thailand offering nothing but most aren't

Edited by Jingthing

NanLaew Star Member

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

In the event Thailand cracks down on visa agents, I think it is a good idea for everyone that cannot afford the B800K in the bank method, should have a plan B.

Very sound advice there, thanks. In my case, and with the perilous state of my Plan B, I am earnestly working on Plan C.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I hear ya, that B800K is an enormous amount to a lot of people.

It's not that much money, but it's better working for the farang owner of it, with interest covering agent's costs, plus some, rather than donating to a Thai bank's shareholders. 😂

NanLaew Star Member

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1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

I'm sure Vietnam will welcome all the crackdowns Thailand can throw at foreigners. 😂

I seriously doubt that Vietnam will be as welcoming laissez-faire as Cambodia.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

That has not been my experience. I have had dealings with any number of government agencies, and they have most all been fine.

Did you get the missus to do it all? 🙂

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

I seriously doubt that Vietnam will be as welcoming laissez-faire as Cambodia.

One can live there on 3 month back to back tourist visas, or, marry a Vietnamese national for a 5 year visa for $50. Easy enough.

NanLaew Star Member

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4 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Then it's Plan C - Bali.

Oh, bad choice. Chock full of Bogans. Bali is to Australia what Benidorm is to the Poms.

Jingthing Legendary Member

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Just now, KhunHeineken said:

One can live there on 3 month back to back tourist visas, or, marry a Vietnamese national for a 5 year visa for $50. Easy enough.

You can live there in 3 month visa runs as long as you like on current rules, but who wants to do live like that for many years?

Some do, but it eventually gets awful.

As far as marrying a local there being easy, speak for yourself.

Yellowtail Star Member

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7 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Did you get the missus to do it all? 🙂

No, I had an office manager until I retired, she was great.

My wife got the Thai social medical, pink ID and yellow book for me, and she handles all the visa stuff now. I just smile for the camera.

Yellowtail Star Member

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15 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

It's not that much money, but it's better working for the farang owner of it, with interest covering agent's costs, plus some, rather than donating to a Thai bank's shareholders. 😂

Only as long as he does not care about the law. I imagine you think tax evaders are smart as well, yes?

NanLaew Star Member

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2 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

One can live there on 3 month back to back tourist visas, or, marry a Vietnamese national for a 5 year visa for $50. Easy enough.

It's easy being married to a Vietnamese lass? Tell us more please.

NanLaew Star Member

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5 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

What would be interesting to see would be if Vietnam announced a retirement visa next week, how many in Thailand would jump ship.

Meh....about the same amount that jumped ship to Cambodia! Bloody lemmings everywhere these days.

NanLaew Star Member

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3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Issan's got nothing worth fighting for. 😂 😂

Got you good, did she?

NanLaew Star Member

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2 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

One can live there on 3 month back to back tourist visas, or, marry a Vietnamese national for a 5 year visa for $50. Easy enough.

You miss my point. Cambodia has been the bolt hole for many a dodgy farang for a long time already. They have a far lower bar than Thailand when it comes to turning a blind eye to dodgy fooks.

Yellowtail Star Member

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7 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

You miss my point. Cambodia has been the bolt hole for many a dodgy farang for a long time already. They have a far lower bar than Thailand when it comes to turning a blind eye to dodgy fooks.

He's not dodgy, he only uses an agent because he's rich and doesn't want to waste a few hours at immigration. It's the other guys here that live in rentals, ride scooters, bang hookers and use agents that're skint and dodgy.

He is independently wealthy and owns multiple properties in Australia and club memberships and whatnot.

PhilipHabib Advanced Member

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Are We Really Still Debating This?

Okay I gotta ask... are we seriously doing this thread again? 😅

Every few weeks someone posts "Thailand vs Vietnam, which is better for retirement?" like it's some deep philosophical dilemma. Let me save everyone the 47 replies:

🇹🇭 Thailand has an actual retirement visa (the O-A / O-X, or the classic "extension of stay based on retirement"). You can live there. Legally. On purpose. As a retiree.

🇻🇳 Vietnam does not have a retirement visa. At all. Zero. Nada. You want to "retire" there? Cool, enjoy your visa runs to Cambodia every few months like it's a part-time job you didn't ask for.

I'm not saying Vietnam isn't lovely — the food's incredible, the coffee will restart your heart, and the coastline is gorgeous. But "lovely" doesn't file your paperwork for you.

So unless your retirement plan includes a hobby of "professional border hopper," maybe — just maybe — the country that literally created a visa category for retirees is the one built for retiring in?

Wild concept, I know.

Anyway, hope this clears things up for the next 15 people who post this exact question. 🙃

NanLaew Star Member

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4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

He's not dodgy, he only uses an agent because he's rich and doesn't want to waste a few hours at immigration. It's the other guys here that live in rentals, ride scooters, bang hookers and use agents that're skint and dodgy.

He is independently wealthy and owns multiple properties in Australia and club memberships and whatnot.

As long as he's not a member of Tweed Heads Lawn Bowls Club, I don't care what Walter claims.

Yellowtail Star Member

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2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It is to a lot of people but I would argue it is a low number relative to other nations that welcome retired expats based on banked money.

Also if having 800K locked up is not something you can easily afford, you probably can't afford to retire anywhere else.

I know it's a lot of money to me as well, but the cost of keeping it in Thailand is not that much.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

My issue with the Thailand retirement visa system is not the financials. They are quite fair and reasonable. They're not looking for welfare cases. The issue is that there is no path to increased residency status.

Typically countries that have retirement schemes offer permanent residency betwen instantly and five years.

Some are like Thailand offering nothing but most aren't

No easy, inexpensive path anyway.

In retrospect, I should have gotten permanent residency it when I was working, it would have been very easy.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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(edited)
2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Oh, bad choice. Chock full of Bogans. Bali is to Australia what Benidorm is to the Poms.

True.

There's always Malaysia or Portugal, but I still prefer Vietnam over these countries.

Edited by KhunHeineken

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You can live there in 3 month visa runs as long as you like on current rules, but who wants to do live like that for many years?

Some do, but it eventually gets awful.

As far as marrying a local there being easy, speak for yourself.

Sure, I accept this, but there's also no guarantee the 800k / 65k are not increased at some stage. I've said before, they simply can not stay at these amounts forever. They may be raised a little, to reflect higher living costs, or raised a lot, in conjunction with banning agents, as part of a broader policy, in order to raise the financial standard of expat retiree here.

At the moment, I am in good health, and still enjoy traveling. I think by the time I am either unhappy or unable to do a visa runs, Vietnam will have a retirement visa by then.

If you are married to a Vietnamese national, you get a 5 year visa for $50.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

No, I had an office manager until I retired, she was great.

My wife got the Thai social medical, pink ID and yellow book for me, and she handles all the visa stuff now. I just smile for the camera.

So, she deals with all the bureaucracy, and you get to post on here that you've seen no changes and had no problems in 20 years. 😂 😂

Edited by KhunHeineken

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