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Thailand or Vietnam: Retirement choices

Thailand offers foreign retirees a clearer legal route to long-term residence than Vietnam, but Vietnam can cost considerably less for those able to manage more complicated visa arrangements. For people deciding where to spend retirement in Southeast Asia, the choice in 2026 often comes down to predictable paperwork and healthcare versus lower rent and daily spending.

Thailand has developed visa options specifically for retirement. The Non-Immigrant O visa allows foreigners aged 50 and above to stay for one or more years, when renewed, for retirement purposes.

Applicants generally need a valid passport, basic medical certificate and depending on initial visa, Thai-recognised health insurance. They must also show either 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account or a monthly income of 65,000 baht.

Vietnam has no retirement visa

Vietnam does not have a dedicated retirement visa, nor a visa category based only on a person's age, pension income or retirement status. Retirees seeking a long stay must instead pursue a Temporary Residence Card through eligible work, investment or family-tie routes, or use investment and family-reunion visas.

That can involve more legal complexity than a retirement move to Thailand. Investment-linked residence may require a compliant local company, along with continuing tax filings and audits, obligations that may not suit someone who has stopped working.

For foreigners who want an established route without relying on a job, investment or family sponsorship, Thailand's retirement visa framework is therefore a major practical advantage. Conditions, including financial evidence and insurance, should nevertheless be checked before applying.

Vietnam's advantage is everyday cost

Comparisons cited by Travelbinger put Vietnam around 20-30% cheaper than Thailand for a similar expat lifestyle. Rent is estimated to be roughly 40% lower on average.

Modern one-bedroom apartments are quoted at US$300-500 in Ho Chi Minh City and US$200-350 in Da Nang. Comparable rents are put at US$400-700 in Bangkok and US$350-550 in Chiang Mai.

A comfortable retirement budget is estimated at US$800-1,200 a month in Vietnam, compared with US$1,200-1,800 in Thailand. Annual estimates put comfortable expat spending at US$22,000-30,000 in Vietnam, against US$30,000-40,000 in Bangkok.

Street-food meals are estimated at US$1-3 in Vietnam and US$2-4 in Thailand, while restaurant dinners are US$5-12 and US$8-15 respectively. Domestic beer is also said to be cheaper in Vietnam.

The gap can narrow for retirees dependent on imported food and Western amenities, which can be significantly more expensive in Vietnam. Those happy with local food are likely to see the largest savings.

Healthcare, property and daily life

Thailand's established medical-tourism sector attracts more than two million medical tourists each year, including visitors from the United States, Australia, the Middle East and Europe. Its private hospital network includes JCI-accredited facilities, English-speaking staff and short waiting times.

Vietnam does not require health insurance for any visa category. Government figures put Vietnamese medical services at about 30-50% of the cost in Singapore or Thailand, but the country currently has four JCI-accredited hospitals. The health ministry aims for at least 15 internationally standard hospitals by 2030, including five public hospitals; retirees currently rely heavily on private hospitals in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City.

Neither country lets foreigners buy land outright. Vietnam permits foreign apartment purchases on 50-year leasehold terms, while Thailand has condominium ownership rules for foreigners and an established rental market.

Thailand has also applied tax rules since 2024 to foreign-source income brought into the country in the year it is earned. Retirees moving money to Thailand may need advice on tax exposure and their home country's double-taxation treaty.

Thailand offers more established expat infrastructure, English signage, public transport and retirement services. Vietnam offers lower costs, but busier traffic, less consistent English outside major cities and a more energetic pace. For many retirees, the decision is whether those savings outweigh Thailand's clearer long-term setup.

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18 August 2026

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Yellowtail Star Member

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1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said:

If by the term "meager life" you mean they didn't buy a property and a new car, then I call that smart.

As I said, the best investment in Thailand is no investment in Thailand.

I can head straight to the airport and and be gone in a matter of hours, incurring only a small financial loss. This is by design, and not because I don't 800k.

You don't like cars?

Yellowtail Star Member

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I could stop at the bank on the way to the airport and transfer the B800K to my US bank on the way to the airport if I wanted to.

But, yeah, if the cops were chasing me, it might be an issue.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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41 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You don't like cars?

I like cars, and car racing.

As members discussed on another thread, Thailand does not have a reasonable pathway to PR or citizenship.

I am not singling out Thailand. Vietnam is the same. I would also not buy a property in Vietnam. Neither country gives you the right to reside there, only a privilege to do so, which can be revoked at anytime.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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44 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I could stop at the bank on the way to the airport and transfer the B800K to my US bank on the way to the airport if I wanted to.

But, yeah, if the cops were chasing me, it might be an issue.

Can you stop on the way to the airport and transfer a house / condo and a car as well? 🙂

Yellowtail Star Member

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25 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I like cars, and car racing.

As members discussed on another thread, Thailand does not have a reasonable pathway to PR or citizenship.

I am not singling out Thailand. Vietnam is the same. I would also not buy a property in Vietnam. Neither country gives you the right to reside there, only a privilege to do so, which can be revoked at anytime.

You can't afford to buy a car?

Yellowtail Star Member

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24 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Can you stop on the way to the airport and transfer a house / condo and a car as well? 🙂

I could sell the car in a couple hours, and if I had a condo I could sell it in a few days.

Is everyone you know broke?

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You can't afford to buy a car?

Of course I can afford to buy a car. I've even kept my car back in Australia.

What's so difficult to understand about not buying assets in a country that you have no right to reside in?

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I could sell the car in a couple hours, and if I had a condo I could sell it in a few days.

We both know that's rubbish.

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Is everyone you know broke?

You are trolling.

scubascuba3 Star Member

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1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

I use an agent for a few reasons. One, I don't trust the Thai government, and I don't trust the Thai banks. Two, it's financially beneficial to use an agent. Three, I don't have to go to immigration. Four, should I pass, I don't leave a mess behind in Thailand that my kids have to chase up.

Sure, some guys who use an agent don't have 800k, but it's a myth that everyone who uses an agent doesn't have 800k.

It's possible the next crackdown after the thai nominee companies is the agent in/out financials scenario, also increase the limits from 800k etc, those currently doing it likely to be grandfathered, others will need to pay increased amounts or agent fees

Yellowtail Star Member

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29 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Of course I can afford to buy a car. I've even kept my car back in Australia.

What's so difficult to understand about not buying assets in a country that you have no right to reside in?

You have a scooter, yes?

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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Just now, scubascuba3 said:

It's possible the next crackdown after the thai nominee companies is the agent in/out financials scenario, also increase the limits from 800k etc, those currently doing it likely to be grandfathered, others will need to pay increased amounts or agent fees

Yes, I agree. I have said the 800k / 65k can't remain at those amounts forever. However, I disagree it will be grandfathered. I think current holders will be given a clear 12 months to comply. Example, say you are due in September 26, you will be given until September 27 to comply. All new applicants will need to comply immediately.

It will be interesting to see if it is a small increase, to keep up with the higher coss of living, or if it will be a significant increase, as part of a broader policy.

If it's a significant increase, it may force some to head off to Vietnam.

The clock is ticking on agents. I know that. When they do ban the agents, that too may force some to head off to Vietnam. I bring in way over the 65k each month to cover myself.

As a member said in another thread, they will eventually get around to being serious with taxing foreigners.

Back to the OP, and putting all the above together, many may end up moving to Vietnam because they are either unable, or unwilling, to comply with Thailand's laws / rules regarding visas, if / when Thailand gets serious about enforcement.

Yellowtail Star Member

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28 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

We both know that's rubbish.

It's not. I could not sell for top dollar, but it's easy to sell stuff that is discounted.

On your way to the bar, stop at a place that sells used scooters and asl them what they'll give you for it.

Same with selling a condo.

28 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

You are trolling.

You are lying.

It is hard to sell a car you paid two million for a couple years ago for 1.95 million, but it's easy to sell it for one million.

Yellowtail Star Member

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5 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Yes, I agree. I have said the 800k / 65k can't remain at those amounts forever. However, I disagree it will be grandfathered. I think current holders will be given a clear 12 months to comply. Example, say you are due in September 26, you will be given until September 27 to comply. All new applicants will need to comply immediately.

It will be interesting to see if it is a small increase, to keep up with the higher coss of living, or if it will be a significant increase, as part of a broader policy.

If it's a significant increase, it may force some to head off to Vietnam.

The clock is ticking on agents. I know that. When they do ban the agents, that too may force some to head off to Vietnam. I bring in way over the 65k each month to cover myself.

As a member said in another thread, they will eventually get around to being serious with taxing foreigners.

Back to the OP, and putting all the above together, many may end up moving to Vietnam because they are either unable, or unwilling, to comply with Thailand's laws / rules regarding visas, if / when Thailand gets serious about enforcement.

What is the big deal if they increase the monetary requirement?

Why do you assume that the people using the B800K in the bank method have no more money?

I would guess a crack-down on agents will come before a significant increase, but I don't care much either way.

If you "bring in way over the 65k each month" you're losing a bit to transfer fees.

scubascuba3 Star Member

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55 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I have said the 800k / 65k can't remain at those amounts forever. However, I disagree it will be grandfathered.

They grandfathered it last time so likely to do it again, but no guarantee

56 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

As a member said in another thread, they will eventually get around to being serious with taxing foreigners.

Yes but first they need to get serious about taxing Thais

Yellowtail Star Member

Yellowtail

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3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

They grandfathered it last time so likely to do it again, but no guarantee

Yes but first they need to get serious about taxing Thais

And a lot of countries have tax treaties that don't allow double taxation.

BayArea Silver Member

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9 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Neither country gives you the right to reside there, only a privilege to do so, which can be revoked at anytime.

This should be plaster on a sign and hung in every foreigner's home as a constant reminder.

Edited by BayArea

JerryM Gold Member

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(edited)
7 hours ago, BayArea said:

This should be plaster on a sign and hung in every foreigner's home as a constant reminder.

Or with apologies to the musical Annie:

Will the sun come out ... tomorrow?

NO!

Edited by JerryM

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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8 hours ago, BayArea said:

This should be plaster on a sign and hung in every foreigner's home as a constant reminder.

But, but but, it's still fine to invest in Thailand? Everyone else is doing it, so it must be fine, right? 😂 😂

JerryM Gold Member

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16 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

In my opinion, it's only a matter of time before Vietnam announces a retirement visa.

Yes -- in the linked article:

(A.G.) suggested that introducing a retirement visa would be a positive change for Vietnam.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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Just now, JerryM said:

Yes -- in the linked article:

(A.G.) suggested that introducing a retirement visa would be a positive change for Vietnam.

I've asked a few members what impact, if any, would Vietnam creating a retirement visa have on Thailand.

I would suggest Vietnam is already poaching some of Thailand's tourism. I have no doubt Vietnam would take many new retirees off Thailand, and possibly many existing retirees also.

JerryM Gold Member

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1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said:

I have no doubt

It's nice to know you have no doubt. Ms. A.G. certainly gave it a ringing endorsement

SiSePuede419 Ruby Member

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16 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

In my opinion, it's only a matter of time before Vietnam announces a retirement visa.

Will they be winning the mostly German retirees in Hua Hin?

That would be great.

Now I can rent a condo there for 4000/m instead of the inflated high price of 8000/m. Sweet! 😄

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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1 minute ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Will they be winning the mostly German retirees in Hua Hin?

That would be great.

Now I can rent a condo there for 4000/m instead of the inflated high price of 8000/m. Sweet! 😄

It would certainly have an impact on the property market, particularly rents, but it would also have an impact on the hospitality industry, particularly food and beverage.

Money go down, put price up.

For those in business, good luck explaining to a Thai landlord that a lot people are now going to Vietnam, or moved to Vietnam, so revenue is down.

JerryM Gold Member

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4 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

It would certainly have an impact

Wow! Certainly -- sure -- no doubt all in one day

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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18 minutes ago, JerryM said:

It's nice to know you have no doubt. Ms. A.G. certainly gave it a ringing endorsement

It's nice to know that you think it's nice to know I have no doubt.

JerryM Gold Member

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2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

It's nice to know that you think it's nice to know I have no doubt.

Prognostication has it's good points. Sometimes.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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2 minutes ago, JerryM said:

Prognostication has it's good points. Sometimes.

It's easy when you look at the data.

One example, tourism in Thailand down 7%, tourism in Vietnam up 15%.

JerryM Gold Member

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5 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

It's easy when you look at the data.

One example, tourism in Thailand down 7%, tourism in Vietnam up 15%.

But other examples is Thailand cannot keep the 800/65 forever.

Why not? It's been 20 years so far and their last overhaul to the retirement extension they didn't do it.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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30 minutes ago, JerryM said:

But other examples is Thailand cannot keep the 800/65 forever.

Why not? It's been 20 years so far and their last overhaul to the retirement extension they didn't do it.

It's simple. The 800k / 65k is losing it's purchasing power, just like money is in many other countries.

Basically, that 800k / 65k doesn't buy you what it used to be able to buy you, thus, these amount will eventually get to the point where they don't mean much when it comes to a foreigner being self sufficient with these amounts of money, so at some point, the Thai government will raise them.

I never suggested it would be next week, but it's inevitable.

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