Nemises Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 He was caught and convicted end of this thread is about him not others thank you.TV should run a police record check and block all members who have ever broken the law - no matter how minor their violation/s :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeab1980 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Gregster said: TV should run a police record check and block all members who have ever broken the law - no matter how minor their violation/s :) Yer right they could even make it easier using fake names and vpn. Oh sorry they already do. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeab1980 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) 40 minutes ago, midas said: That explains such a lot about people with your mentality And yours is? Oh its ok to break laws or others do it so he was just unlucky. No wonder the world is as it is. Hang overstayers ban them. Love law breakers protect and keep them. What a sad twisted outlook you an the other "love in" posters on this thread have on justice and life. Edited September 8, 2017 by jeab1980 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Clarify with a good lawyer, if an appeal is possible. The judgment seems to me too hard, since you have a thai family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 41 minutes ago, midas said: And do you also advocate that all the thousands of foreigners who are holding real estate in Thailand using this method should also be treated with the same harshness? If not why not? I would say NO, because 15 years ago, this wasn't against the Law, I mean every other person I knew in Pattaya had incorporated himself in one way or another, I considered it myself but I felt it was dodgy at best and didn't really like the Lawyer that was advertising it. I mean, you register yourself as a business but have no business?? there had to be something wrong with that, but there were no laws concerning this. I think there is more to this than the Op is posting, in any event, he knew what he was doing, and it was wrong, he got caught. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecons1 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 If you were found guilty of a criminal offence with or without a custodial sentence you will be deported (or blacklisted) if innocent no problem. There are ways round it which many other farangs have discovered involving "deed poll" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 25 minutes ago, TunnelRat69 said: I would say NO, because 15 years ago, this wasn't against the Law, I mean every other person I knew in Pattaya had incorporated himself in one way or another, I considered it myself but I felt it was dodgy at best and didn't really like the Lawyer that was advertising it. I mean, you register yourself as a business but have no business?? there had to be something wrong with that, but there were no laws concerning this. I think there is more to this than the Op is posting, in any event, he knew what he was doing, and it was wrong, he got caught. Also 15 years ago it was against the law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Viking Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 57 minutes ago, MickTurator said: Change your name by deed poll, get a new passport, get a Non Imm O visa with multi entry, come back to thailand. That will keep you in Thailand for 23 months. Those facial recognition camera's dont actually work ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, stevenl said: So you claim to know on what basis he received his extensions of stay. You should read my post first before responding. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeab1980 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Just now, Preacher said: You should read my post first before responding. Totally agree therin lies the problem on here half read posts then respond 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Preacher said: You should read my post first before responding. I did, hence my question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemises Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Totally agree therin lies the problem on here half read posts then respondAlso agree... but not a reasonable expectation when some threads on here have about 1,000 +/- posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tropo Posted September 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 hours ago, jeab1980 said: Lol. So we have to feel sorry for someone who commits a crime. Gets caught gets convicted and gets deported. No sorry i feel for his wife as he obviously didnt bother to do when comiting the crime. Isnt it funny someone overstays and they get hung drawn and quatered on here. They deserve everything they get they make life more difficult for others but when the overstayer mentions his wife its always well its your fault you should have done this that or the other. Now a convicted guy tells us he has been blacklisted and pleads for compasion and we are all supposed to immediately feel sorry for him WHY?. So you bleeding hearts please go away. No, you need to go away and find another thread to pollute with your venomous nonsense. I was in a similar situation to the OP recently, where my wife and I could have been convicted and deported for a crime we didn't commit and solely caused by the incompetence of a lawyer we trusted. We changed lawyers and got through it. The OP was charged with a minor offense and ONLY fined, not imprisoned. He should not have been deported. He obviously had poor legal assistance, and that was his only problem. A good lawyer would have sorted this out. It could happen to anyone. He came here for advice, not to listen to "holier than thou" rants by people with nothing better to do with their time. He knows what he did wrong. Go away! 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasudev Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 4 hours ago, mstevens said: So you've been banned for a period and not blacklisted entirely, right? Would I be right in thinking that this ban is because you got caught up in the court system and could not leave the country, subsequently overstayed your visa so the ban is technically for overstaying? The reason I ask is because this is exactly what happened to a friend of mine. No ,,, i was not overstayed even for a single day,,, i was on court case under consideration visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasudev Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 7 hours ago, jeab1980 said: Who deported you ? From where? Non o or extension of stay? Did the court blacklist you? Move your family to Laos or cambodia for the 5 years. Thai immigration deported me,, no i was not blacklisted by court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasudev Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, tropo said: Are you still here? And now you're suggesting that one of the few people giving sound advice should "trot on"? What is your problem? I'd tell you what it is, but unfortunately, forum rooms wouldn't permit it. The OP came here for advice. I will be giving the OP a very good recommendation of the lawyer that did a superb job for me and won 2 court cases. I'm not sure how they will go, as the lawyer is in Pattaya and the OP was in Hua Hin, but he works the Bangkok court circuit too, which is possibly where this case may end up. It's quite possible that his wife could start a court case to help get her husband back. I don't see how he has lost his right to appeal just because he's been deported. The courts afford that right and it should be followed up. The court allows 30 days to appeal after the judgement, which can be extended 3 times. The fact that he's overseas will likely get him extensions. I would guess that if he makes an appeal they will have to let him back in. This is very complicated and he needs the best legal assistance he can get. Yes you are right,,, pls email me your recommendation . <contact by PM> Edited September 9, 2017 by ubonjoe removed email address (forum rule) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasudev Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, tomacht8 said: Clarify with a good lawyer, if an appeal is possible. The judgment seems to me too hard, since you have a thai family. Yes,,, i also think soo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tropo Posted September 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 11 hours ago, vasudev said: Yes you are right,,, pls email me your recommendation . <contact by PM> I have sent you the details. Please email them as soon as possible. You will not find lawyers that work as hard as these people. They sent 2 lawyers to my last court hearings. I was in a very sticky situation and could have been deported, as you have been. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, stevenl said: I did, hence my question. There was no question in your post, just a statement from you which clearly shows that you didn't read my post. I made no claim, just gave 2 possibilities and which one it is might effect the results of an appeal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Preacher said: There was no question in your post, just a statement from you which clearly shows that you didn't read my post. I made no claim, just gave 2 possibilities and which one it is might effect the results of an appeal. Sad you don't understand the insinuations in your own post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I have sent you the details. Please email them as soon as possible. You will not find lawyers that work as hard as these people. They sent 2 lawyers to my last court hearings. I was in a very sticky situation and could have been deported, as you have been.Why don't you post the lawyer details here? Good for the lawyer and good for people on here that needs a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Just now, scubascuba3 said: 41 minutes ago, tropo said: I have sent you the details. Please email them as soon as possible. You will not find lawyers that work as hard as these people. They sent 2 lawyers to my last court hearings. I was in a very sticky situation and could have been deported, as you have been. Why don't you post the lawyer details here? Good for the lawyer and good for people on here that needs a good one They are very busy and not short of work. I'm happy to help out by PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preacher Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, stevenl said: Sad you don't understand the insinuations in your own post. Sad you can't admit your mistake. First it is that I claim to know on what is extension he is based and if you can't win that argument you just start complaining about something else. No sense arguing with someone who just argues for arguments sake. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Preacher said: Sad you can't admit your mistake. First it is that I claim to know on what is extension he is based and if you can't win that argument you just start complaining about something else. No sense arguing with someone who just argues for arguments sake. There's no need to quarrel about what extension he was on. His original Non-O visa extension was cancelled and he was given a special extension limited to the date of his final court hearing. As soon as the court case was over, his special extension expired. At that point, he had to apply for a new non-O visa. Instead, they gave him the marching orders. What the immigration officers failed to explain to him was that his eligibility for another visa would depend on the verdict in court. As a result, he was unprepared for the outcome. This is yet another example of bum information from an immigration officer. Edited September 8, 2017 by tropo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'm sorry if I've over read it, but who gave him the 5-year ban? a.) The court in its judgment? or b.) The Immigration officers in their own direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: I'm sorry if I've over read it, but who gave him the 5-year ban? a.) The court in its judgment? or b.) The Immigration officers in their own direction? B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasudev Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 minute ago, tomacht8 said: I'm sorry if I've over read it, but who gave him the 5-year ban? a.) The court in its judgment? or b.) The Immigration officers in their own direction? B ,,the immigration officers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 If it is not in the written judgment, then it is the question on which legal basis the immigration gave the 5 year ban. I think the Immigration officers did not know that the op is married to a Thai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasudev Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, tropo said: There's no need to quarrel about what extension he was on. His original Non-O visa extension was cancelled and he was given a special extension limited to the date of his final court hearing. As soon as the court case was over, his special extension expired. At that point, he had to apply for a new non-O visa. Instead, they gave him the marching orders. What the immigration officers failed to explain to him was that his eligibility for another visa would depend on the verdict in court. As a result, he was unprepared for the outcome. This is yet another example of bum information from an immigration officer. Exactly that what has happened in my case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, vasudev said: Exactly that what has happened in my case They cancelled your original Non-O visa and give you a special extension because you waited for your court date? How many days between your cancelled original Non-O visa and your court date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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