Short 2 weeks on 400k seasoned for 3 months

[gazz]

So now I'm looking for the best option to remedy this unfortunate oversight.  (Don't know why I had 60 days in mind; must be getting older.)

Is there any chance immigration will still consider the application for annual extension to stay based on marriage if the 400k is almost 2 weeks shy of the 90 requirement?

If not, what is the best way forward?  (Expiration is Nov.30/17)

 

Thanks in advance for any informative advice.

[ubonjoe]

The money only has to be in the bank for 2 months for an extension of stay based upon marriage.

[ldiablo72]

What Joe said.

[gazz]

Wow!

 

Like I said, I think I'm losing some gray matter.  I seem to have had it in head that it was 60 days for the first time after receipt of visa and then 90 for subsequent applications for extension to stay.  I will henceforth add this item to the growing list of "reminders" in my calendar.

 

So long as it's pertinent -- and I can now go ahead with the application -- can anyone point me to a current list of documents required for Phuket immigration office?

 

Many thanks to Thai Visa forum and the generous support of knowledgeable folks like Ubon Joe.

[ubonjoe]

9 minutes ago, gazz said:

I seem to have had it in head that it was 60 days for the first time after receipt of visa and then 90 for subsequent applications for extension to stay. 

Those are the requirement to apply for an extension of stay based upon retirement but it is 3 months not 90 days.

I don't know what Phuket wants but here is my general list of requirements. Marriage Extension Requirements.pdf

[gazz]

I've found the conflict:  I have this pdf on file (attached) that was current as of June 2013.  The area of interest indicates an anomaly that may be associated with the Phuket Immigration office (i.e. 3 months for subsequent years).

 

I would sure be grateful if anyone from Phuket could clarify whether the 400k needs to be seasoned for 2 or 3 months.

 

Marriage Extension Checklist.pdf

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, gazz said:

I've found the conflict:  I have this pdf on file (attached) that was current as of June 2013.

A one time Phuket was wanting it for the 3 months which is not in the police order but I don't recall any recent reports of them wanting the 3 months.

From clause 2.18 of Police Order 327/2557  basis for extension of stay. It has been two months in the police orders going back to at least 2008.

Quote

(6) In the case of marriage to a Thai woman, the alien husband must earn an average
annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month or must have no less than Baht
400,000 in a bank account in Thailand for the past two months to cover expenses for
one year.

 

[gazz]

Thanks Ubonjoe.  I guess I'll just have to sweat it out until someone from Phuket can confirm current requirements.

 

I had thought a way forward might be to change the visa from:  "(6) In the case of marriage to a Thai woman" to "(5) In case of parents"  which does not indicate a requirement to season the funds for 2 months ... or 3 as may be the case in Phuket.  It's contentious so may not even be a way around the possible 3 month Phuket requirement.

 

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, gazz said:

I had thought a way forward might be to change the visa from:  "(6) In the case of marriage to a Thai woman" to "(5) In case of parents"  which does not indicate a requirement to season the funds for 2 months ... or 3 as may be the case in Phuket.  It's contentious so may not even be a way around the possible 3 month Phuket requirement.

They might not allow you to apply for one based upon being a parent of a Thai since you are married to you child's mother. The intent of the extension is for single parents. I suspect that Phuket like a few other office want the money to be in the bank for X number of months to apply for being a parent.

No immigration office has any legal right to very from the written requirements in the police order.

If you had to you could apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife and then do the one year extension near the end of it.

[gazz]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

No immigration office has any legal right to very from the written requirements in the police order.

If you had to you could apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife and then do the one year extension near the end of it.

If Phuket officers insist on 3 months rather than the stated 2 of the police order, is there an internal immigration process whereby one can dispute the judgement?  I'm not keen on ruffling feathers at the local level -- I still have to live here -- but by the same token, as I recall, the hoops I had to jump through to acquire the visa in the first place is not something I care to repeat anytime soon (trips in and out of the country, embassies, translations bureaus, foreign affairs ministry, etc.).

 

Your suggestion of a 60 day extension looks like a reasonable approach.  Not having ever made use of it, I'm curious to know how that might be put into effect.  I assume I would need to apply just prior to the expiration of my current stay.  Then, unlike the annual extension, I'm also guessing there is no "period of consideration" so would be effective as of the date applied (?).  Of concern, is whether I would need to leave the country at any point during this process, and whether it is as simple as submitting an application for an "annual extension to stay" prior to the expiration of the "60 day extension".

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, gazz said:

Your suggestion of a 60 day extension looks like a reasonable approach.  Not having ever made use of it, I'm curious to know how that might be put into effect. 

You could apply for it during the last couple of weeks or your current extension. Your wife would need to be with you when you apply.

You get the 60 day extension stamp on the date you apply.

No need to leave the country unless you want to. If you needed to travel you could get a re-entry permit for the 60 days.

You could apply for the one extension extension during the last 30 days of the 60 day extension.

 

[gazz]

That's great news, Joe, thanks.

 

So if I'm following correctly, extensions are simply appended to others without losing current visa status.  (It sounds too easy, too convenient ... surely there's a roadblock in that scenario.  Makes me wonder how many 60 day extensions can be granted if one follows another without interruption.)

 

Righto, first things first.  I need to find out it Phuket Immigration is wanting 3 months.  Probably best to start another thread with that as subject line.

 

Thanks again.

[ubonjoe]

10 minutes ago, gazz said:

Makes me wonder how many 60 day extensions can be granted if one follows another without interruption.)

You can only get a one 60 day extension per entry to the country. If you have to get one you will not be able to get another one unless you leave and enter with a new visa.

[gazz]

And yet they'll allow a 60 day extension if applied for prior to the expiration of my current stay without having to produce a new visa?

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, gazz said:

 

And yet they'll allow a 60 day extension if applied for prior to the expiration of my current stay without having to produce a new visa?

 

No problem for getting one now since it will be your first one for the entry you have been extending.

[gazz]

Perfect ... an escape hatch!

 

Thanks so much for easing the all-consuming stress that clobbered me this morning.  Good to know there's a way out.

 

cheers

[PoorSucker]

Phuket and Samui are rough immigration offices that demands the 400k for three months.

At Samui they claim it comes from regional HQ.