Father says bouncers attacked his son and set fire to him outside well known Khon Kaen pub

[webfact]

Father says bouncers attacked his son and set fire to him outside well known Khon Kaen pub

 

Picture: Sanook

 

A father of a 15 year old boy has gone to the media to appeal for justice after his son was attacked outside a Khon Kaen nightclub.

 

He asked for names not to be used for fear of reprisals.

 

His son - who he called "A" - is in a coma in hospital after the attack late at night on September 22nd.

 

He said that the local police have got nowhere and now he was asking the media for justice as he prepares to visit the head of Region 4 police to get some action.

 

The father said his son had contacted his girlfriend around 11 pm on the night in question to say he was going out to play video games and do some cruising with friends.

 

He said it was just normal behavior for his son who had never got in trouble before.

 

But when the teens drove their motorcycles outside the pub an altercation began. He said that his son was set upon by 3 or 4 bouncers.

 

He was repeatedly kicked and punched in the head and on the body. Then someone poured gasoline on his leg and set fire to him.

 

He was dumped by a flagpole.

 

The next he saw of his son was in a local hospital where he is yet to regain consciousness. He has severe bruising, a ruptured lung and burns.

 

The case has gone cold, he told Sanook, with the police making no arrest and no one accepting any responsibility for what happened to his son.

 

Yesterday the father and relatives were preparing to meet with the head of the Region 4 force to demand action in the case.

 

Source: Sanook

 

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[Thaiwrath]

10 minutes ago, webfact said:

The case has gone cold, he told Sanook, with the police making no arrest and no one accepting any responsibility for what happened to his son.

Just a normal day in 'Paradise'!

[darksidedog]

It's stories like this that remind you that you are in a third world country. If a similar incident happened at home, the police would move heaven and earth to find the perpetrators. Someone who will beat and set fire to a 15 year old boy is a real low life dirtbag, who deserves to go away for a very long time. In Thailand? Cops can't even be bothered to arrest anyone.

[YetAnother]

47 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

It's stories like this that remind you that you are in a third world country

and it can turn dangerous for any of us

Edited October 6, 2017 by YetAnother

[robblok]

20 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

It's stories like this that remind you that you are in a third world country. If a similar incident happened at home, the police would move heaven and earth to find the perpetrators. Someone who will beat and set fire to a 15 year old boy is a real low life dirtbag, who deserves to go away for a very long time. In Thailand? Cops can't even be bothered to arrest anyone.

Maybe its that the cops get payment from the night club and protect the club from trouble. I would not be surprised if corruption plays a part here. 

[ratcatcher]

"But when the teens drove their motorcycles outside the pub an altercation began. He said that his son was set upon by 3 or 4 bouncers."

I sympathize with the boy and his family and hope he recovers from his burns and injuries etc, BUT was there any provocation by the boys on the motorbikes??? Were words exchanged to cause such aggression from these '"bouncers"

                                                                        

[GarryP]

Is it normal for kids to go out at 11pm to play video games and cruise around.  My son had to be home by 9pm, except on Fridays or Saturdays when it was increased to 10pm. Not until he was 18 was he allowed to stay out longer. It was the same for me as a kid too. There does not seem to be much parental control nowadays, but then this applies to many countries, not just Thailand.  Regardless, those involved need to be brought to justice.   

[robblok]

1 minute ago, ratcatcher said:

"But when the teens drove their motorcycles outside the pub an altercation began. He said that his son was set upon by 3 or 4 bouncers."

I sympathize with the boy and his family and hope he recovers from his burns and injuries etc, BUT was there any provocation by the boys on the motorbikes??? Were words exchanged to cause such aggression from these '"bouncers"

                                                                        

Good point, but even if there was some provocation... the "punishment" is a bit overkill. 

[Dave67]

Bouncers=Local Mafia family

[robblok]

1 minute ago, GarryP said:

Is it normal for kids to go out at 11pm to play video games and cruise around.  My son had to be home by 9pm, except on Fridays or Saturdays when it was increased to 10pm. Not until he was 18 was he allowed to stay out longer. It was the same for me as a kid too. There does not seem to be much parental control nowadays, but then this applies to many countries, not just Thailand.  Regardless, those involved need to be brought to justice.   

I had far more lenient parents around 16-17 on Saturdays I could stay out until the bar / disco closed. (between 1 and 2 am) on a Saturday. Never abused it was never late home so i was cut a lot of slack. 

[NanLaew]

A parent who wants to be nameless and faceless to "prevent reprisals"?

 

More like he doesn't want to be fingered as the irresponsible parent that lets his 14 year-old out regularly to hook up with his girlfriend at 11 PM to go "cruising".

 

Cruising for a bruising maybe?

 

Well he got what he wanted in spades.

 

This som nam nah moment brought to you by...

[GarryP]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

I had far more lenient parents around 16-17 on Saturdays I could stay out until the bar / disco closed. (between 1 and 2 am) on a Saturday. Never abused it was never late home so i was cut a lot of slack. 

What is the drinking age in your home country? In the UK it is 18. My father would never have allowed me to go out drinking at 16 because it would have meant him giving me consent to do something illegal. Not that it stopped me when I was away from home, but that is a different issue. Kids will be kids.   

[robblok]

8 minutes ago, GarryP said:

What is the drinking age in your home country? In the UK it is 18. My father would never have allowed me to go out drinking at 16 because it would have meant him giving me consent to do something illegal. Not that it stopped me when I was away from home, but that is a different issue. Kids will be kids.   

At that point it certainly was not illegal for me.. or maybe it was but everyone 16 and even younger were drinking. I am talking about 27 years ago approx. The bar disco was not far from our home (could walk it). Plus i never ever broke the time rules so I was always allowed to do as i pleased as I had shown to be responsible. 

 

Related, we always recognized the UK crowd in France as the kids really loved to drink but because they had no experience unlike the Germans and Dutch so they overdid it. I even had to carry away an English girl that passed out while she was taking a leak in the bushes. Later went to hospital for a delirium.  Those were the fun times holiday in France organizing river parties and such. 

Edited October 6, 2017 by robblok

[Cadbury]

1 hour ago, Dave67 said:

Bouncers=Local Mafia family

Likely that certain cops owned the night club and the bouncers were off-duty cops moonlighting.

= no action by coppers.

[Baerboxer]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

At that point it certainly was not illegal for me.. or maybe it was but everyone 16 and even younger were drinking. I am talking about 27 years ago approx. The bar disco was not far from our home (could walk it). Plus i never ever broke the time rules so I was always allowed to do as i pleased as I had shown to be responsible. 

 

Related, we always recognized the UK crowd in France as the kids really loved to drink but because they had no experience unlike the Germans and Dutch so they overdid it. I even had to carry away an English girl that passed out while she was taking a leak in the bushes. Later went to hospital for a delirium.  Those were the fun times holiday in France organizing river parties and such. 

 

At that time, from memory and certainly in Austria, 16 was the drinking age limit on the "continent" whereas 18 in the UK. But here it's 21, as in some states of the US - not sure if that's the same in all states. 

 

However, in the UK I was 15 when I first went to a nightclub. In those days some clubs had notorious reputations for having aggressive bouncers. That changed in the UK with registered door staff, stricter enforcement of age restrictions and much closer policing.

 

Here, it's still hit and miss. Many bouncers are off duty police and military; but many more are not so disciplined or trained and as with all things here, you never know the reaction until it happens.

 

Group of teenagers on motor cycles, outside a nightclub late at night/early hours - recipe for trouble.

[newcomer71]

Another sad day in Congo... Oh wait...

[keithpa]

4 hours ago, Cadbury said:

Likely that certain cops owned the night club and the bouncers were off-duty cops moonlighting.

= no action by coppers.

Here we go again, innuendo, innuendo, innuendo. Get a life.

[hdkane]

7 hours ago, YetAnother said:

and it can turn dangerous for any of us

an overwhelming thought...we really are helpless here...i live in an area with only a few farang...i try to build friendships, but the farang here, who are elderly, prefer to be reclusive...they don't seem to realize or appreciate that if things go bad, we are 10000 km from anyone who can offer any significant help...about 3 years ago one of the guys i tried to befriend started to have health problems...after refusing my visits and invitations multiple times, i stopped  contact with him...with no one to help him, he fell ill, but was too stubborn to seek aid, and the thai woman he thought had his best interest at heart did nothing for him...he died alone and perhaps before his time...westerners really need to stick together if we can.

[Cadbury]

54 minutes ago, keithpa said:

Here we go again, innuendo, innuendo, innuendo. Get a life.

Lighten up newbie. Some us are allowed to have a bit of fun by reeling in easy game like yourself. Life is not meant to be always serious. After you get more experience in these forums you might learn to differentiate between those which are frivolous and those which have some serious quality. Good luck with that.

[pigeonjake]

they will find 2 burmese and that will be the end of the story,,, 

 

 

didnt thailand cops do the same before,??

[jvs]

Ann told me she read on a Thai website the kids were causing trouble

for awhile already,reving their noisy bikes and being a nuisance.

Repeatedly told to leave and finally the result you read in the op.

Over the top?Yes but police are nowhere to be found when these gangs of youngsters feel they are above the law and do as they please.

Another failure of law enforcement.

Edited October 6, 2017 by jvs
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[greenchair]

10 hours ago, ratcatcher said:

"But when the teens drove their motorcycles outside the pub an altercation began. He said that his son was set upon by 3 or 4 bouncers."

I sympathize with the boy and his family and hope he recovers from his burns and injuries etc, BUT was there any provocation by the boys on the motorbikes??? Were words exchanged to cause such aggression from these '"bouncers"

                                                                        

Doesn't matter what he did. 

Maybe he flipped the finger. 

Maybe he spat at them. 

Maybe he smart mouthed them as 15 year olds are prone to do. 

There were 4 of them beat him to unconsciousNess and set him on fire for gods sake man. 

[fullcave]

2 hours ago, jvs said:

Ann told me she read on a Thai website the kids were causing trouble

for awhile already,reving their noisy bikes and being a nuisance.

Repeatedly told to leave and finally the result you read in the op.

Over the top?Yes but police are nowhere to be found when these gangs of youngsters feel they are above the law and do as they please.

Another failure of law enforcement.

 

Yes, honda wave 110s with baffles removed and out looking for some trouble with the little gang. Smoking cigarettes and looking for trouble. I guess they found it. His friends must have run off. Still, can't go around lighting 15-year-olds on fire just because of poor parenting and the fact that the cops won't do their job.

[greenchair]

2 hours ago, pigeonjake said:

they will find 2 burmese and that will be the end of the story,,, 

 

 

didnt thailand cops do the same before,??

 

Oh for goodness sakes get over it. 

[midas]

On 10/6/2017 at 10:09 AM, YetAnother said:

and it can turn dangerous for any of us

I have often considered this. If they can react this way so easily to one of their fellow countrymen what chance would foreigners have here if the locals turned desperate and angry during some form of crisis?

[Get Real]

On 2017-10-06 at 5:16 AM, ratcatcher said:

"But when the teens drove their motorcycles outside the pub an altercation began. He said that his son was set upon by 3 or 4 bouncers."

I sympathize with the boy and his family and hope he recovers from his burns and injuries etc, BUT was there any provocation by the boys on the motorbikes??? Were words exchanged to cause such aggression from these '"bouncers"

                                                                        

Are you serious? What words do you see as acceptable as a reason for that kind of treatment and violence? Please share with the rest of the forum. 

Edited October 7, 2017 by Get Real

[keithpa]

18 hours ago, Cadbury said:

Lighten up newbie. Some us are allowed to have a bit of fun by reeling in easy game like yourself. Life is not meant to be always serious. After you get more experience in these forums you might learn to differentiate between those which are frivolous and those which have some serious quality. Good luck with that.

15 years in Thailand, Im no newbie. And your attempt to justify your ridiculous comments have obviously failed.

[tominbkk]

1 hour ago, Get Real said:

Are you serious? What words do you see as acceptable as a reason for that kind of treatment and violence? Please share with the rest of the forum. 

No justification of course but you get too close to the tiger's cage, stick your arm in etc. you are asking for trouble.  We don't know the extent, but he must have done something to piss them off.  Playing with fire.

Edited October 7, 2017 by tominbkk