Windows 10 Update to 1709

[jenny2017]

On 10/19/2017 at 1:13 PM, amvet said:

I didn't have any problems with 1709 except it says the app to link your phone is not available in Thailand.

Can't you just change your country settings to another country, where you're supported? Same goes with Cortana. 

 

    It's downloading the same new update again, after I deleted the one on my drive C. I really don't know if i want to do that again. Machine Keeps freezing in, even with my old 1703?

Edited October 21, 2017 by jenny2017

[amvet]

3 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

Can't you just change your country settings to another country, where you're supported? Same goes with Cortana. 

No for a couple of reasons.  Thai phone number, and Thai google account hooked to a Thai credit card and Thai phone number.  The app is is not on your computer it's on your phone. 

[jenny2017]

6 minutes ago, amvet said:

No for a couple of reasons.  Thai phone number, and Thai google account hooked to a Thai credit card and Thai phone number.  The app is is not on your computer it's on your phone. 

 Sorry, thought on your PC. 

[amvet]

2 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

 Sorry, thought on your PC. 

No hangups with pc only when trying to link the phone does the cortana phone app say not available in your country. 

[amvet]

Changed my phone VPN and downloaded Microsoft launcher which used to be Arrow launcher.  I'll try it and see if it works in Thailand.

[amvet]

2 hours ago, amvet said:

Changed my phone VPN and downloaded Microsoft launcher which used to be Arrow launcher.  I'll try it and see if it works in Thailand.

Nope.  Can't change my google play location for Cortana download.  Only available in USA at this time

[jenny2017]

I've now spent more than 20 hours on my main PC, but I'm so close to destroying it. I had three backups, one before I made the update, one that was a bit older, and one with 1609, shortly after the update.

 

     The freezing in occurs on all backups, which is driving me crazy. Macrium restore doesn't work with this type of Windows and even when I can get my older backup back on, it's still freezing in. Then the blue screen I had at least five times.

 

  I''ve got professional help from a friend who's a computer literate, but he said that he hadn't experienced such problems before.During one restore, when MS had already downloaded the setup file for 1709, I was shocked when nothing else than the blue screen was visible and we had to start over again.

 

    We even formatted Drive C to start over again and even the new set up from a memory stick started freezing in. MS must have many dead bodies under the carpet because I do not seem to be the only one.

 

   What really surprised me is that 1709 works well on my antiquated PC. Please do not upgrade now and wait until they've fixed their too many bugs.You can choose when you want to have it installed and it;'s even possible to delete the whole folder. Good luck out there. I hope that not a lot more have to deal with this bs. 

 

  

 

  

 

   

[jenny2017]

6 hours ago, amvet said:

Nope.  Can't change my google play location for Cortana download.  Only available in USA at this time

If it's on your PC, you can. Just change your location from Thailand to The United States. 

Edited October 22, 2017 by jenny2017

[amvet]

11 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

If it's on your PC, you can. Just change your location from Thailand to The United States. 

It doesn't do any good.  The big new deal is controlling your phone with Cortana. You can't download the app from Google Play.  The new Microsoft launcher (Arrow) also switches your search engine to Bing which freaked me out and I tossed the whole app because they should have warned me about that.

 

There are two new sections, including Phone and Cortana.

The Phone section still under development, but it allows you to connect your phone to your computer to enable cross-devices experiences. And the new Cortana section includes all the options previously available when opening the settings in the Taskbar.

 

Why a big company like Microsoft would be so sneaky and not tell you everything about the update is awful. 

Edited October 22, 2017 by amvet

[jenny2017]

5 minutes ago, amvet said:

It doesn't do any good.  The big new deal is controlling your phone with Cortana. You can't download the app from Google Play.

 

There are two new sections, including Phone and Cortana.

The Phone section still under development, but it allows you to connect your phone to your computer to enable cross-devices experiences. And the new Cortana section includes all the options previously available when opening the settings in the Taskbar.

Thank you for clarification. I'm afraid that there's a lot more to come yet. 

[amvet]

3 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

Thank you for clarification. I'm afraid that there's a lot more to come yet. 

I was trying to do something really simple.  I wanted to text on Messenger with my voice so I can leave the phone on my belt when driving or walking the dog.  Messenger is the Facebook SMS app that is far better than the Android alternative.  I can do it now if the other person has Messenger set as their default but can't if not.  Maybe Bixby can do it. 

[jenny2017]

4 minutes ago, amvet said:

I was trying to do something really simple.  I wanted to text on Messenger with my voice so I can leave the phone on my belt when driving or walking the dog.  Messenger is the Facebook SMS app that is far better than the Android alternative.  I can do it now if the other person has Messenger set as their default but can't if not.  Maybe Bixby can do it. 

I prefer Skype, and if the other person has an Hotmail account it's free as well and good as the ordinary Skype. Skype replaced the messenger on Hotmail. 

Edited October 22, 2017 by jenny2017

[jenny2017]

After seven attempts by using three different backups and Macrium, there's no chance to get my main PC running. So harsh it may sound, but we had to format my hard drive and I've lost quite a lot of good and also important stuff.

 

  Macrium often stopped working, a few times we were on 98 percent and then the message that the restore wasn't successful. 

 

 In the end we're three, two of them specialists ( Not Thai) and all in all, I wasted almost three days to get back to the 1709, which is now working well. I dunno how long.

 

  I've got two other PC's I can use, but we just wanted to find out why it always started to freeze in. Unfortunately, could we not find the problem that was causing it. 

 

    

[bendejo]

On 10/18/2017 at 6:04 PM, Formaleins said:

One thing that has changed for the worse on my PC is now the mouse cursor no longer "Auto hides" when playing VLC movies!

I lost all of my taskbar icons until I did yet another restart.

Nothing else seems adversely affected though, but I haven't really seen any benefits either.

 

Strangely, Microsoft decided to download it and as it was processing the 1709 version, it located another update for Defender for 1703 and proceeded to download and install that.

 

I also have the VLC problem.  I re-installed the latest VLC (2.2.6) and it didn't help.  I'll tinker with it when I have time, maybe there's something in the advanced settings.  I just noticed there is a version of VLC in MS's App Store, looks pretty flashy, which to me makes it uninviting.  Strange that I don't see it offered or mentioned on the official VLC website http://www.videolan.org

 

It seems the load process has been improved: I type in my password and right away my user screen comes up and is ready to use.  I have a bunch of background programs I run, like a net monitor and a CPU monitor, so to go from password entry to where everything is loaded usually takes about 2 minutes -- this load time lag doesn't bother me, as in a normal day I only power up once and hibernate a few times.  (Also, I'm also doing other things, like making coffee etc so I usually don't even notice).  Or maybe it is pre-loading while it's waiting for me to enter the password, as there is only one user account.  An actual, noticeable performance improvement, who'da thunk?

 

 

[jenny2017]

21 minutes ago, bendejo said:

 

I also have the VLC problem.  I re-installed the latest VLC (2.2.6) and it didn't help.  I'll tinker with it when I have time, maybe there's something in the advanced settings.  I just noticed there is a version of VLC in MS's App Store, looks pretty flashy, which to me makes it uninviting.  Strange that I don't see it offered or mentioned on the official VLC website http://www.videolan.org

 

It seems the load process has been improved: I type in my password and right away my user screen comes up and is ready to use.  I have a bunch of background programs I run, like a net monitor and a CPU monitor, so to go from password entry to where everything is loaded usually takes about 2 minutes -- this load time lag doesn't bother me, as in a normal day I only power up once and hibernate a few times.  (Also, I'm also doing other things, like making coffee etc so I usually don't even notice).  Or maybe it is pre-loading while it's waiting for me to enter the password, as there is only one user account.  An actual, noticeable performance improvement, who'da thunk?

 

 

Yep, it's faster than the version before, there's no doubt. I'm not asking you to read my story, but not all users have such good luck. Now, after three days troubleshooting and various restores, I'm okay with the way it works now.

 

  But I was there before and will make a new copy with Macrium. It's so new that Macrium still has some issues with the newest 1709.

 

Is your memory usage also higher than before? All programs are working, the freezing in problem seems to be more common than I thought.   

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, jenny2017 said:

Is your memory usage also higher than before?

 

It might be.  I have this on my screen, and while I usually have an eye on the CPU I can't say I give the RAM/swap any notice unless performance is dragging.  But you asking it does have me curious, not so much that I'll restore the old bu just to see...

 

 

I perform backups with Reflect 7.0.1998, technicians version booted from USB thumb drive.  Installed is free version 6.3.1835.  After performing a bu I use the free version to run it through validation, and also try mounting the image.  The only advantage of this pro version, for me at least, is that I can password-protect the image files.

 

I looked through your posts with great sympathy.  My own guess is it may have something to do with those other little partitions Win 10 keeps. Remember, this is merely a guess based on my own system.

I have a lot of partitions.  There are 15 on the internal HD on my laptop, and there is some blank space between each.  (This is not the place for my partitioning philosophy.)  These are the first few:

 

 

Win 10 came pre-installed (legit) on my laptop.  At that time there was only partitions 1 and 2, with #2 (the C: drive) being the remainder of the disk.  #1 seems to be a Win 10 necessity.  I may be a Unix veteran with a lot of experience with partitioning and backup software, but when I got this laptop it was the first time I heard of UEFI and GPT - hey, I'm retired!  I backed up the 'virgin' disk images and spent the next two weeks trashing my disk, juggling partitions, installing/re-installing Linux and restoring the original stuff.  This was when I first learned of Reflect as well, I had been using Acronis for years but it didn't fly with this New Order.  That was about 18 months ago, and once I got things the way I wanted I left it alone, and have since probably forgotten most of what I then learned.

Then with one of the Win 10 update releases (I think it was 16xx) partition #3 was created. Those gray squares are empty space, I always keep some between partitions, and with #3 right up next to partition #2 I am absolutely certain I did not create it.  If you're wondering, #4 is where I have Linux installed, and I left more than 1Gb in between in the event I want to install yet another OS - with 1Tb I can be generous with space.  It appears Win 10 allocated a piece of that empty space for this new partition, but it could just as easily clipped off a piece at the end of C:

 

Ok, here's the guess: it has something to do with the little hidden partitions when you were attempting the restore, something between locking the partition table, Win 10 demanding a new partition or 2, and Reflect not being able to figure out what to do.

Anyway, I hope you get this straightened out, and that maybe you got some guidance from this post.

 

 

 

 

[Pib]

12 hours ago, jenny2017 said:

After seven attempts by using three different backups and Macrium, there's no chance to get my main PC running. So harsh it may sound, but we had to format my hard drive and I've lost quite a lot of good and also important stuff.

 

  Macrium often stopped working, a few times we were on 98 percent and then the message that the restore wasn't successful. 

 

 In the end we're three, two of them specialists ( Not Thai) and all in all, I wasted almost three days to get back to the 1709, which is now working well. I dunno how long.

 

  I've got two other PC's I can use, but we just wanted to find out why it always started to freeze in. Unfortunately, could we not find the problem that was causing it.     

 

Specifically how did you use Macrium to initiate the image restore?   There are two methods. 

 

 1) Start Macrium after Windows is up and running and then use the Restore selection from within the Macrium program.

 

 2) Booting your computer from a  Macrium "Rescue Media" disk/stick you created earlier.   You create the Rescue Media under the Other Tasks menu selection in Macrium.    This method is the safest, especially if Windows won't even boot no more or has other serious underlying problems.

https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW7/Rescue+Environment

 

I have never used method 1, but I have used method 2 several times with 100% results. 

[jenny2017]

On 10/24/2017 at 1:39 AM, bendejo said:

 

It might be.  I have this on my screen, and while I usually have an eye on the CPU I can't say I give the RAM/swap any notice unless performance is dragging.  But you asking it does have me curious, not so much that I'll restore the old bu just to see...

 

 

I perform backups with Reflect 7.0.1998, technicians version booted from USB thumb drive.  Installed is free version 6.3.1835.  After performing a bu I use the free version to run it through validation, and also try mounting the image.  The only advantage of this pro version, for me at least, is that I can password-protect the image files.

 

I looked through your posts with great sympathy.  My own guess is it may have something to do with those other little partitions Win 10 keeps. Remember, this is merely a guess based on my own system.

I have a lot of partitions.  There are 15 on the internal HD on my laptop, and there is some blank space between each.  (This is not the place for my partitioning philosophy.)  These are the first few:

 

 

Win 10 came pre-installed (legit) on my laptop.  At that time there was only partitions 1 and 2, with #2 (the C: drive) being the remainder of the disk.  #1 seems to be a Win 10 necessity.  I may be a Unix veteran with a lot of experience with partitioning and backup software, but when I got this laptop it was the first time I heard of UEFI and GPT - hey, I'm retired!  I backed up the 'virgin' disk images and spent the next two weeks trashing my disk, juggling partitions, installing/re-installing Linux and restoring the original stuff.  This was when I first learned of Reflect as well, I had been using Acronis for years but it didn't fly with this New Order.  That was about 18 months ago, and once I got things the way I wanted I left it alone, and have since probably forgotten most of what I then learned.

Then with one of the Win 10 update releases (I think it was 16xx) partition #3 was created. Those gray squares are empty space, I always keep some between partitions, and with #3 right up next to partition #2 I am absolutely certain I did not create it.  If you're wondering, #4 is where I have Linux installed, and I left more than 1Gb in between in the event I want to install yet another OS - with 1Tb I can be generous with space.  It appears Win 10 allocated a piece of that empty space for this new partition, but it could just as easily clipped off a piece at the end of C:

 

Ok, here's the guess: it has something to do with the little hidden partitions when you were attempting the restore, something between locking the partition table, Win 10 demanding a new partition or 2, and Reflect not being able to figure out what to do.

Anyway, I hope you get this straightened out, and that maybe you got some guidance from this post.

 

 

 

 

PC is on and running well since 3 days. Unfortunately, can I only guess what it was. As already mentioned, the restores sometimes worked, but the program always froze in. Even after putting on an older one, it started freezing in.

 

   I took my setup memory stick and started over again, goal was to format drive C, which worked well. After the formatting, and a new Windows from the scratch, I still had the problem going on. My 6 GB memory were there, I really had no idea what went wrong.

 

  Then I tried to put on one of my 1703 backups with Macrium on, but even then it started to freeze in. I've only formatted Drive C, but all in a sudden lost all Data on D as well.

 

  What I couldn't understand was that Macrium always started the 32 bit rescue version, but my OS is 64 bit. I have the Macrium 64 bit restore on the same memory stick and it always worked well. When I did my notebook that's got a 32 bit OS, it booted to the 32 bit version. When I restored my 64 bit PC's, it automatically started the 64 bit version of Macrium rescue. 

 

   I switched the PC off, then checked all cables, connectors and cleaned the contacts of the two memory cards. Then I used another memory stick and booted Macrium in the 64 bit version. I then decided to put the latest backup on with the 1709 update, at this time the system was running well.

 

  The restore process took around 70 minutes and when the system booted up successfully, the freezing in dissapeared and I'm back to normal. That was three days ago. The worst scenario is over and i could copy most of the lost stuff from an external drive to my drive d.

 

  The weird part is that I've got no idea what the problem really was. Thanks for your post. 

 

I've just seen with disc management that I had 500 MB unallocated space and extended it to drive c. 

Edited October 26, 2017 by jenny2017

[jenny2017]

On 10/24/2017 at 9:42 AM, Pib said:

 

Specifically how did you use Macrium to initiate the image restore?   There are two methods. 

 

 1) Start Macrium after Windows is up and running and then use the Restore selection from within the Macrium program.

 

 2) Booting your computer from a  Macrium "Rescue Media" disk/stick you created earlier.   You create the Rescue Media under the Other Tasks menu selection in Macrium.    This method is the safest, especially if Windows won't even boot no more or has other serious underlying problems.

https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW7/Rescue+Environment

 

I have never used method 1, but I have used method 2 several times with 100% results. 

Sorry for my late reply. System is back to normal with the 1709, but I've lost a lot of programs, files and something i won't get back, my time. I've got no idea how I could lose my data on drive d. When I finally did the setup of a clean Windows, I only formatted my drive c and I could see that my data on drive D was still there.

 

  But after too many attempts, the data on D was gone. Fortunately, could I get a lot of stuff I've got stored on an external back, but i still lost a lot of work. I tend to believe that the Macrium 64 bit rescue version didn't work at the time of the restore, because I could only see the 32 version starting up. 

 

  When I created a new Macrium 64 rescue media, it started up, but it looked quite old to me. This version booted up with the W 7 Logo and then turned on  the Macrium backup and restore monitor. I would have thought that the Macrium 7 was different.

 

   I've tried both ways to restore, but none was working well. From ten restores, perhaps four made it through, unfortunately with the nasty freezing in problem. As already mentioned in my other post, I finally checked all connections, cleaned the contacts of my memory cards and the system is running well now. Ironically with the backup I had made right after the update. Thanks a lot for your time. 

Edited October 26, 2017 by jenny2017

[bendejo]

19 hours ago, jenny2017 said:

When I created a new Macrium 64 rescue media, it started up, but it looked quite old to me. This version booted up with the W 7 Logo and then turned on  the Macrium backup and restore monitor. I would have thought that the Macrium 7 was different.

 

Have you tried to validate your old backup?  Have you tried to mount the Reflect image ("Explore Image")?  Not that this will solve your problem, but you'll know if your bu is corrupt.

 

Now that you've got it running again you might want to consider doing a fresh re-install of Win 10 via the USB (or ISO image) that Win 10 allows you to create -- I've never done this myself but there is plenty of info on the net about it, like this: 

http://www.intowindows.com/create-uefi-bootable-usb-of-windows-10/

 

This, of course, is after you salvage all your personal data to a removable disk.  From all the stuff I've read about Win 10 these past 2 years it seems most of the horror stories involve versions upgraded from Win 7.  I'm not sure if that's what you have.

 

Also how about a newer version of free Reflect?

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html

 

Want to scrub the disk entirely, zap all partitions and the partition table?  Try gparted or Aomei

https://www.disk-partition.com/download-home.html

 

Here's something I do, it's not essential but it doesn't hurt:

when I do a backup I tell the program to break it down into smaller files, this keeps things more manageable.  I set it to 3.8Gb file size, if you want to know why look up file size limitations of NTFS vs FAT32.

 

Also, whenever you do a backup do what I wrote in the first paragraph.  A backup is like an insurance policy, but you never know how valid the policy is until you file a claim 

 

Best of luck.

 

 

 

[jenny2017]

9 hours ago, bendejo said:

 

Have you tried to validate your old backup?  Have you tried to mount the Reflect image ("Explore Image")?  Not that this will solve your problem, but you'll know if your bu is corrupt.

 

Now that you've got it running again you might want to consider doing a fresh re-install of Win 10 via the USB (or ISO image) that Win 10 allows you to create -- I've never done this myself but there is plenty of info on the net about it, like this: 

http://www.intowindows.com/create-uefi-bootable-usb-of-windows-10/

 

This, of course, is after you salvage all your personal data to a removable disk.  From all the stuff I've read about Win 10 these past 2 years it seems most of the horror stories involve versions upgraded from Win 7.  I'm not sure if that's what you have.

 

Also how about a newer version of free Reflect?

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html

 

Want to scrub the disk entirely, zap all partitions and the partition table?  Try gparted or Aomei

https://www.disk-partition.com/download-home.html

 

Here's something I do, it's not essential but it doesn't hurt:

when I do a backup I tell the program to break it down into smaller files, this keeps things more manageable.  I set it to 3.8Gb file size, if you want to know why look up file size limitations of NTFS vs FAT32.

 

Also, whenever you do a backup do what I wrote in the first paragraph.  A backup is like an insurance policy, but you never know how valid the policy is until you file a claim 

 

Best of luck.

 

 

 

 

 

  Thanks a lot for the time you've taken. Nope, I didn't validate the backup and I think it's not necessary to mount the image because it seems that the problem that caused the PC to freeze in was perhaps a hardware conflict that happened at the same time. 

 

  I came to the conclusion that either a problem with reading the memory cards, or a bad connection of the Data cable at the motherboard, has caused the weird issues I had. After cleaning the contacts of both memory cards, and checking all connections, the restore was smoothly without a problem. 

 

   Symptoms such as freezing, or a poor performance, are usually from low memory and I can only assume that this was the problem. All is working fine now and new backups are made.

 

 My system is fast, all programs are working well and I do not want to make a fresh install because the first backup i made was right after the installation of the W 10 1709 update.

 

    On the other hand are quite a few customers reporting similar issues with the 1709 update. i truly believe that the three days of trying to solve the problem(s) were enough. Why changing anything when all is working well/

 

   Thanks again and a great week. Cheers.- 

 

  

 

  

[WorriedNoodle]

Well its third week November and Windows10 finally offered me to update to 1709. I have used this PC for many years since Win7 and never clean installed, just updated.

 

It seems OK now after install of 1709 but it took about 7 hours of my life to do with an SSD drive! A couple of early attempts by Windows seemed to stall with progress % never changing, another attempt booted to home screen as if finished but I will still on ver 1703 without any explanation.  I went to Update troubleshooter and it decided to download everything again from scratch. Finally the update worked.

 

I removed the Windows.old folder taking up almost 30GB of space and the current Windows folder is nearly 45GB in size already.

 

[KittenKong]

1 hour ago, WorriedNoodle said:

It seems OK now after install of 1709 but it took about 7 hours of my life to do with an SSD drive! A couple of early attempts by Windows seemed to stall with progress % never changing, another attempt booted to home screen as if finished but I will still on ver 1703 without any explanation.  I went to Update troubleshooter and it decided to download everything again from scratch. Finally the update worked.

 

Strange. I downloaded and applied build 1709 in well under an hour. Old SSD and fairly old i3 processor. It also took about the same time on an older laptop, again with SSD.

 

It's working fine and without any issues so far.

[jenny2017]

2 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said:

Well its third week November and Windows10 finally offered me to update to 1709. I have used this PC for many years since Win7 and never clean installed, just updated.

 

It seems OK now after install of 1709 but it took about 7 hours of my life to do with an SSD drive! A couple of early attempts by Windows seemed to stall with progress % never changing, another attempt booted to home screen as if finished but I will still on ver 1703 without any explanation.  I went to Update troubleshooter and it decided to download everything again from scratch. Finally the update worked.

 

I removed the Windows.old folder taking up almost 30GB of space and the current Windows folder is nearly 45GB in size already.

 

I hope you've got your system backed up? There must be something wrong with your numbers, no update/upgrade is that huge>

 

    We're talking about 3 to 4 GB, not ten times more. You can use some clean up programs to get rid of your old Window installations.

 

  I'm using "Your  Uninstaller 7 Pro" a quite good program that also does other tasks.

 

Your PC must be very slow, considering all the stuff you don't need?

 

  I'm afraid that you've got to clean up your machine before you update.

 

  I've installed the 1709 on six different PC's and notebooks, even with old technology no problem so far.

 

  Best of luck!

Edited November 18, 2017 by jenny2017

[Pib]

My upgrade from 1703 to 1709 on both of my Lenovo laptops, i7/i5 with SSD laptops, took just shy of one hour....this includes the download & install times.

[Here It Is]

1 minute ago, Pib said:

My upgrade from 1703 to 1709 on both of my Lenovo laptops, i7/i5 with SSD laptops, took just shy of one hour....this includes the download & install times.

Same here which is still quite a long time for my impatient sensibilities.

[Pib]

Just now, Here It Is said:

Same here which is still quite a long time for my impatient sensibilities.

And if watching it during the upgrade process when it seems to stay on a certain percentage for too long and/or goes really slow at times you begin to sweat bullets that something isn't going right.  Then the percentage-complete starts to speed up again or jumps right to 100% of a certain install phase and it begins the next phase....you now breathe a sigh of relief.

[RichCor]

10 minutes ago, Pib said:

when it seems to stay on a certain percentage for too long

I will usually google the operating system and percentage number -- usually some forum will have reports that corroborate needing a long wait, or needing to close some background task or service to get it to continue on its own.

 

In the past some of the common were 0%, 17%, 24%,  32%, 35%, 71%, 91% and the dreaded 99% and each corresponded to a particular upgrade and a stall-out point. Every once in a while just googling that was enough to find a person on a forum that had experienced the common stall-out point but had found a work-around to allow the upgrade or install to finish to completion.

 

Sometimes I loath the Internet. Sometimes I love it. Sometime {TMI} (censored/banned). 

[Pib]

Yea, like I mentioned earlier in this thread in post #8 going from 1703 to 1709 on both of my Lenovo laptops experienced an install slowdown during a portion of the install process (not download) which caused me concern....partial quote below.   

 

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9:58pm: Started "Getting Update Ready" process.   This process took a while...going up to 75% was a steady pace....but from the 75% to 86% of the process it went really slow... and then from 86% to 100% it went quickly.   I hate it where a portion of a process like the 75% to 86% portion goes so slow...starts you sweating a little.

 

Now I'm sure the install process was going fine, but when you are watching the upgrade and it's been zipping along doing the install process and then the install process slows way down you can begin to wonder things....scare yourself something is not going right.  But in actuality everything is still probably going OK.   And of course people with different computers may experience different install process slowdown points.   

 

Over the years during others upgrades there always seems to be a portion of the install process that seems to slowdown significantly which can cause person a concern.   I don't think I have ever experienced an install where the "percentage completed indicator" went at a steady, consistent pace; instead, there would be portions that was significantly faster or slower.

[Pib]

23 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said:

Well its third week November and Windows10 finally offered me to update to 1709. I have used this PC for many years since Win7 and never clean installed, just updated.

 

It seems OK now after install of 1709 but it took about 7 hours of my life to do with an SSD drive! A couple of early attempts by Windows seemed to stall with progress % never changing, another attempt booted to home screen as if finished but I will still on ver 1703 without any explanation.  I went to Update troubleshooter and it decided to download everything again from scratch. Finally the update worked.

 

I removed the Windows.old folder taking up almost 30GB of space and the current Windows folder is nearly 45GB in size already.

 

Depending on how a person did the 1703 to 1709 upgrade...like maybe you forced the upgrade versus waiting on it to show up eventually....you may have a Windows10UpGrade folder about 20GB in size.   I forced the upgrade on 19 Oct...and this morning/19 Nov I noticed I had the Windows10Upgrade folder.   

 

Probably several ways to get rid of the folder, but probably the best way is  uninstall the Windows10Upgrade Assistant program.  It's what I did a few minutes ago....only took a few seconds.  See below webpage on how to do it....easy....fast....free-up 20GB.

 

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/86213-delete-windows10upgrade-folder-windows-10-a.html