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[vogie]

Sorry about this, but I have just done two searches, one I typed in 'immigration' the other I typed in '90 day report' and nothing showed up. 

I have a good Danish friend who is on a retirement extension, he has been back to Denmark for six months, before he left he told immigration at Jomptien, however he returned on Wednesday and was told by an official at the airport he needn't report to immigration, I thought he had to report back to Immigration within 72 hours?

As I said sorry for having to make a new topic, when one was really not needed.

[ubonjoe]

His 90 day report is not due until 90 days from the date he entered the country.

Not sure where you came up with the 72 hour number.

Jomtien may want a report of his presence by the owner of his residence within 24 hours of arrival where he is living.

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

His 90 day report is not due until 90 days from the date he entered the country.

Not sure where you came up with the 72 hour number.

Jomtien may want a report of his presence by the owner of his residence with 24 hours of arrival where he is living.

Sorry Joe, I was not referring to his 90 day report, but his report to immigration that he has arrived back in Thailand. Hope this makes sense.

[ubonjoe]

There is no requirement to report you are leaving the country or that you have returned either.

[BritTim]

Some interpretations of the Immigration Act suggest that, if his residence is not in the province you entered Thailand, you must submit a TM28 notification when arriving home. That has never actually been enforced (if indeed the interpretation is accurate). Almost certainly, immigration was either confused (possible) or advising your friend of the need (depending on local immigration office) for the "housemaster" (typically the owner) of the property where he lives to submit a TM30 (notification of alien arriving in your house).

 

Already confused? It is actually more complicated than suggested above.

[vogie]

1 minute ago, BritTim said:

Some interpretations of the Immigration Act suggest that, if his residence is not in the province you entered Thailand, you must submit a TM28 notification when arriving home. That has never actually been enforced (if indeed the interpretation is accurate). Almost certainly, immigration was either confused (possible) or advising your friend of the need (depending on local immigration office) for the "housemaster" (typically the owner) of the property where he lives to submit a TM30 (notification of alien arriving in your house).

 

Already confused? It is actually more complicated than suggested above.

I had it in my mind that for example if I was to go to Laos I had to report and fill a form out at the immigration office, and on my return I had to report back to the same office. However, it's not often I'm wrong, but it looks like I'm wrong again.

[ubonjoe]

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

I had it in my mind that for example if I was to go to Laos I had to report and fill a form out at the immigration office

The only thing you would need from immigration is a re-entry permit to keep your extension of stay valid if you have one.

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

The only thing you would need from immigration is a re-entry permit to keep your extension of stay valid if you have one.

So does my friend need a re-entry permit, as I said he is on a retirement extention.

[Mattd]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

So does my friend need a re-entry permit, as I said he is on a retirement extention.

If he needs to travel outside of Thailand, then yes he does.

[Tanoshi]

21 minutes ago, vogie said:

So does my friend need a re-entry permit, as I said he is on a retirement extention.

One would hope your friend already obtained a re-entry permit before leaving Thailand.

 

If he didn't then his extension ended the day he departed and on re-entry he'll be granted a 30 day Visa exempt entry (unless he obtains a new Visa from his home Country)

[Tanoshi]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

There is no requirement to report you are leaving the country or that you have returned either.

TM6.

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

TM6.

He was asking about reporting at an immigration office not departure or entry to the country at an airport or border crossing

[Tanoshi]

27 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

He was asking about reporting at an immigration office not departure or entry to the country at an airport or border crossing

 

Depends on a persons interpretation of the Immigration Act and whether their Immigration office enforces their interpretation.

Our opinions are irrelevant, as it's Immigrations interpretation and opinion that matters.

 

Personally I respectfully disagree with your opinion and my interpretation of the Act is that 'aliens' entering and taking up residence (albeit the same) have to be reported by the 'House master' by filing a new TM30. I've always filed a new TM30 when re-entering, even before it was enforced at some Immigration offices, purely based on my interpretation.

[ubonjoe]

23 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

Personally I respectfully disagree with your opinion and my interpretation of the Act is that 'aliens' entering and taking up residence (albeit the same) have to be reported by the 'House master' by filing a new TM30. I've always filed a new TM30 when re-entering, even before it was enforced at some Immigration offices, purely based on my interpretation.

That is not really what the OP asking about. He thought you had to report that you were leaving the country and then again when you return to the country at an immigration office. Not the same as the house master having to report your presence.

[Tanoshi]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

That is not really what the OP asking about. He thought you had to report that you were leaving the country and then again when you return to the country at an immigration office. Not the same as the house master having to report your presence.

Agreed.

I think the IO was instructing his friend he had no need to immediately make a 90 day report, but the OP is confusing it with the possibility of having to file a TM30. Two completely different issues of reporting.

[vogie]

11 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

Agreed.

I think the IO was instructing his friend he had no need to immediately make a 90 day report, but the OP is confusing it with the possibility of having to file a TM30. Two completely different issues of reporting.

My friend left Pattaya just over six months ago, he reported to Jomptian immigration before he left, when he arrived back at Bangkok airport the official told him he needn't report back to Jomptian. But however from what I've gleaned from the info provided on here it would appear he has to fill in a TM6 at Jomptian.

Am I correct in assuming this, sorry for any confusion.

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, vogie said:

But however from what I've gleaned from the info provided on here it would appear he has to fill in a TM6 at Jomptian.

He already did a TM6 arrival/departure card when he entered the country.

His landlord should do a new TM30 form to report his presence.

[Thailand]

3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

He already did a TM6 arrival/departure card when he entered the country.

His landlord should do a new TM30 form to report his presence.

If he already had a TM30 then he can go and have it endorsed unless he has changed address, then the new landlord will have to make a a TM30 report?

[ubonjoe]

47 minutes ago, Thailand said:

If he already had a TM30 then he can go and have it endorsed unless he has changed address, then the new landlord will have to make a a TM30 report?

I think that is how they do it in Chiang Mai. Not sure they do that at Pattaya/Jomtien immigration.