sanemax Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Chip Allen said: These people actually believe that their law applies worldwide. The frog committed his "crime" in his own country and was arrested when he came to Thailand. An abomination and a perversion of international law. Sanctions should apply. The report says that he posted the photos onto her FB and THEN fled back to France and then returned to Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, Chip Allen said: Governments of truly civilized countries need to start forcibly repatriating their citizens, when they run afoul of unjust "laws" such as defamation, lese majeste...etc. A gun in the face always gets results. Thuggery deserves thug tactics as retribution. It also probably illegal in France to hack someones computer and to upload naked photos of them as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 18 minutes ago, Chip Allen said: The sickest interpretation of "law" that it is possible to conceive of. Not unlike the reasoning of Communist China. The internet is a world wide conception , it has no borders . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Allen Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, sanemax said: The internet is a world wide conception , it has no borders . Thailand's government has no right to prosecute foreigners for "computer crimes". This is a perfectly insane perversion of legal and political power. It is impossible to commit a "crime" online unless it involves fraud or violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Chip Allen said: Thailand's government has no right to prosecute foreigners for "computer crimes". This is a perfectly insane perversion of legal and political power. It is impossible to commit a "crime" online unless it involves fraud or violence. Thailand's Government has the right to prosecute anyone in Thailand, wherever they come from I am sure that this law applies to Western Counties as well , otherwise French people could go across the border to Belgium , post illegal photos, then go back to France again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Allen Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Crap logic that would place any citizen of western countries in danger if they violated Lese Majeste laws by expressing an opinion. There is NO defense of this kind of thinking, regardless of how you may personally feel. It is immoral and deserves the harshest response from responsible governments worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Chip Allen said: Thailand's government has no right to prosecute foreigners for "computer crimes". This is a perfectly insane perversion of legal and political power. It is impossible to commit a "crime" online unless it involves fraud or violence. Well if all else fails play the pedantic card for the defence. Particularly if no legal conception whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Chip Allen said: Crap logic that would place any citizen of western countries in danger if they violated Lese Majeste laws by expressing an opinion. There is NO defense of this kind of thinking, regardless of how you may personally feel. It is immoral and deserves the harshest response from responsible governments worldwide. We are not talking about LM laws though , and TBH, its really best that we dont It isnt the subject of the OP and its not a topic up for discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 hours ago, watcharacters said: I wonder how many of the posters who are convinced of the "guilt" of the alledged perp left their home country to enjoy being in a country which is not a NANNY state? Good grief, being against scum posting naked pictures of people against their will is PC now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Chip Allen said: Thailand is awash in every kind of obscene image and situation and the cops need to hunt down some turd for posting naked pics of his ex-girlfriend. Priorities of the police are puzzling and racist. For the woman concerned the priority of punishing this scumbag are very clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Allen Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, sanemax said: Thailand's Government has the right to prosecute anyone in Thailand, wherever they come from I am sure that this law applies to Western Counties as well , otherwise French people could go across the border to Belgium , post illegal photos, then go back to France again This law does NOT apply to western countries. I cannot imagine a scenario where mere WORDS uttered on the internet resulted in the arrest of a foreigner who visited Europe or America. It is sheer insanity. You would have to actually threaten violence or commit fraud to run afoul of western law. It is the worldwide standard for legal sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 hours ago, dictater said: Akin to saying a woman deserves to be raped because of what she is wearing. Utter nonsense As Prayut once did. Everyone seems very pleased to bash this Frenchmen without any regards to his rights. Where did he commit this 'crime' was it within the borders of LOS where everything is so good and decent or did he do it in France in which case how can they arrst. Also, where does it say he took these photos without her knowledge??? It says so in the op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Allen Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 "Nanny states" .....Toryspeak for any country which protects its citizens against poverty and violence. Conservative thinking always demonizes the idea that citizens should be entitled to fair treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Chip Allen said: This law does NOT apply to western countries. I cannot imagine a scenario where mere WORDS uttered on the internet resulted in the arrest of a foreigner who visited Europe or America. It is sheer insanity. You would have to actually threaten violence or commit fraud to run afoul of western law. It is the worldwide standard for legal sanity. We are not talking about mere words though , stick to the OP story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Chip Allen said: This law does NOT apply to western countries. Tort, privacy, copyright, and criminal laws offer remedies against people who submit revenge porn.[65][66] Slightly more than half of all U.S. states have laws expressly applicable to revenge porn: Alabama,[67] Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California,[14] Colorado, Connecticut,[68]Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois,[69] Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Michigan,[70][71] Minnesota,[72] Nevada, New Hampshire,[73] New Jersey,[14] New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma,[74] Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia,[75] Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin.[76] For example, New Jersey law prohibits both the capture and the distribution of sexually explicit photographs and films by any person, "knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so" and without the subjects' consent.[77] The law was used to prosecute Dharun Ravi, the Rutgers student who distributed webcam footage of his roommate Tyler Clementi engaging in sexual activity, after which Clementi killed himself.[78] The law has also been used to prosecute several men who allegedly distributed revenge porn of their ex-girlfriends.[7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 how do we know that the Frenchman posted the pics on her Facebook account has he confessed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 A post taking part of another members post out of context without quoting the original poster has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Allen Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Ostensibly, many here believe that expressing opinions can be criminalized by Thailand and the rest of the world should just shut up. What about the insane drug laws in the UAE, where those bringing blood pressure meds through the airport are subject to imprisonment in very harsh conditions? There is no rational .defense of these kinds of laws. Words are not criminal and it cannot be considered criminal to control your blood pressure. International toleration of these laws is the crime, NOT violation of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 how do we know that the Frenchman posted the pics on her Facebook account has he confessed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Chip Allen said: Ostensibly, many here believe that expressing opinions can be criminalized by Thailand and the rest of the world should just shut up. No, many on here believe that people shouldnt post naked photos of other people in the public domain . The OP is nothing to do with expressing an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, sanemax said: eople shouldnt post naked photos of other people in the public domain facebook is not the pubic domain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, AGareth2 said: facebook is not the pubic domain I do not want to get pedantic about the meaning of words , Im sure that you know what I meant, without me having to explain . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Low life tactic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ka12 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 44 minutes ago, AGareth2 said: facebook is not the pubic domain yes it's not public domain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucjoker Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 hours ago, sanemax said: Although I am not talking about other subjects , those are different instances . Yes, unlikely things do happen, although in this case in question , I do feel that its highly unlikely that this is a set -up well , i do,that's all i said .You can think what you want ,It's a (free) country.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 27 minutes ago, ka12 said: yes it's not public domain. "if information is in the public domain, it is available for everyone to see or know about:" http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/public-domain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, lucjoker said: well , i do,that's all i said .You can think what you want ,It's a (free) country.... I am willing to listen : On what grounds do you think that this is a set up. What makes you believe that this is a set up. Have you seen, heard anything that sways your decision Explain your thought process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MaeJoMTB Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 A lot of the Thai women I have met are surprisingly keen for me to take naked photos of them. I even had to 'unfriend' my wife when I caught her trying to upload naked photos of me to my facebook page. It's a funny old world. I never dreamed of doing this sort of stuff in the UK when I was young. Unfortunately having naked photos of a Thai woman on your phone in Thailand is against the law (consensual or not) so not a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, sanemax said: No, many on here believe that people shouldnt post naked photos of other people in the public domain . The OP is nothing to do with expressing an opinion Exactly. But some keyboard warriors around here want to keep the door open for 'free' abusive behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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