Michael Bloomberg: Brexit is stupidest thing any country has done besides Trump

[dundee48]

4 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

Nobody mentioned the Germans.

Nobody mentioned the Oxford dictionary to attack Bloomy.

Nobody mentioned the brave lads fighting the Argies, euh sorry, the argies.

Sure.

There`s something wrong with you.

[oldhippy]

Just now, dundee48 said:

There`s something wrong with you.

Yes. I am not a flag waving. anthem singing, "we are better than them" nationalist, and I don't think that spagetti in sweet tomato sauce on toast is a top culinary experience.

Even if the EU has achieved nothing else than ending the centuries old tradition of regular inter European wars, we should be gratefull!

 

 

[dundee48]

Yes. I am not a flag waving. anthem singing, "we are better than them" nationalist.

 

Nor am I or anybody else I have seen in this thread.

You seem more like a self loathing remoaner who is so bitter they lost the referendum they would rather the UK crashed rather than fight for the best possible deal.That is if you are actually a Brit,you still haven`t said,are you embarrassed?

[Denim]

I would think Russia selling Alaska to the USA was somewhat more stupid than Brexit just for starters.

 

 

[dundee48]

3 minutes ago, Denim said:

I would think Russia selling Alaska to the USA was somewhat more stupid than Brexit just for starters.

 

 

Agreed mate,argentina invading the Falkland Islands would also be right up there in my book.

[baansgr]

On 10/25/2017 at 1:28 PM, Grouse said:

Not all voters are stupid

 

But stupid people voted for Brexit

 

Seen the latest polls?

 

I don't think Brexit will happen, thankfully

This is partly the reason Brexit is happening. Years of brainwashed lety facists not listining to the majority. 

[Nigel Garvie]

9 minutes ago, baansgr said:

This is partly the reason Brexit is happening. Years of brainwashed lety facists not listining to the majority. 

I guess you may mean "Lefty fascists". Fascists are generally found on the right of the political spectrum- for example Maggie's good friend General Pinochet. Lefty Socialists or Communists would make better sense. Grouse is correct though to say that, while it is becoming clearer day by day that it was stupid to vote for Brexicide, that doesn't mean that everyone who did so was stupid. Saying that is rude, and anyway it must have been in the best financial interests of some people. Sadly the young will have to bear the consequences.

[dundee48]

Sadly the young will have to bear the consequences.

 

Is that the "young"who couldn`t be bothered getting out of their beds to vote?

[Kim1950]

3 hours ago, oldhippy said:

DId everybody do as good as you?

Did you get investment advise from Thai monks?

Or were you just lucky? (good for you of course)

Real simple, you might even understand, generic no load market index funds. Try Vanguard or Fidelity. In there basic offering, like track the Dow or S&P. Timing was not lucky, while others went out with Trump's election others stayed long. Mostly millennials on six figure 401k's. Still  no excuse because you would still have made money going in six months ago. Who knows now. 

 

Forget politics, tax reform is good, like it or not, the social cost burden of illegal immigration needs to be reduced. This comes with tax burdens or deficits. No way, are these programs paying their own way. The only advocates are the illegal immigrants, people getting paid to service the illegal immigrants, cheap labor employers, and people with enough money to care. 

[Kim1950]

1 hour ago, Denim said:

I would think Russia selling Alaska to the USA was somewhat more stupid than Brexit just for starters.

 

 

They can have Alaska back. They are a net negative on the US balance sheet. Tourists, big crab legs, dog sled races, drunk Palin family party brawls, in breeding survivalist and no summer. Oh. Green Head Flies. They are tough.

[oldhippy]

5 minutes ago, Kim1950 said:

Real simple, you might even understand, generic no load market index funds. Try Vanguard or Fidelity. In there basic offering, like track the Dow or S&P. Timing was not lucky, while others went out with Trump's election others stayed long. Mostly millennials on six figure 401k's. Still  no excuse because you would still have made money going in six months ago. Who knows now. 

 

Forget politics, tax reform is good, like it or not, the social cost burden of illegal immigration needs to be reduced. This comes with tax burdens or deficits. No way, are these programs paying their own way. The only advocates are the illegal immigrants, people getting paid to service the illegal immigrants, cheap labor employers, and people with enough money to care. 

In 1 word: speculation.

You were lucky - again: good for you!

 

But speculation does not work as an option for the development of an entire society. In the real economy you achieved nothing: your gain was somebody else's loss. I don't say that is wrong, the losers were either stupid or uneducated or slow or poor or unlucky. Unlike you.

[baansgr]

1 hour ago, Nigel Garvie said:

I guess you may mean "Lefty fascists". Fascists are generally found on the right of the political spectrum- for example Maggie's good friend General Pinochet. Lefty Socialists or Communists would make better sense. Grouse is correct though to say that, while it is becoming clearer day by day that it was stupid to vote for Brexicide, that doesn't mean that everyone who did so was stupid. Saying that is rude, and anyway it must have been in the best financial interests of some people. Sadly the young will have to bear the consequences.

Lefty. Facists..... You know the type. Brainwashed, cant think for themselves, have or are studying for a worthless degree. Dont fit into their agenda then its.. Your uneducated, your stupid, your racist etc. 

[adammike]

3 hours ago, dundee48 said:

Yes. I am not a flag waving. anthem singing, "we are better than them" nationalist.

 

Nor am I or anybody else I have seen in this thread.

You seem more like a self loathing remoaner who is so bitter they lost the referendum they would rather the UK crashed rather than fight for the best possible deal.That is if you are actually a Brit,you still haven`t said,are you embarrassed?

That's me that is,I am a brit, not embarrassed,not self loathing, but you will be when May gets the boot and there is a photo op when the UK leaves/crashes out with premier Johnson, and the smug faces of Gove,Davis,Fox,Ledsom,cash,Fox etc outside no10.and the smug face of Nigel sprouting crap from every screen.Its Brexit that may take us all down. 

[adammike]

Didn't Scotland bankrupt themselves trying to invade Panama and have to go cap in hand to the English thus the union was born?

[Khun Han]

7 minutes ago, adammike said:

That's me that is,I am a brit, not embarrassed,not self loathing, but you will be when May gets the boot and there is a photo op when the UK leaves/crashes out with premier Johnson, and the smug faces of Gove,Davis,Fox,Ledsom,cash,Fox etc outside no10.and the smug face of Nigel sprouting crap from every screen.Its Brexit that may take us all down. 

 

You bought a fantastic crystal ball. If you don't mind my asking, how much did you pay for it?

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, dundee48 said:

Sadly the young will have to bear the consequences.

 

Is that the "young"who couldn`t be bothered getting out of their beds to vote?

The data on the demographics of the referendum vote are very weak, apparently one main reason was because there were no party members accumulating voting intention information at the polling stations. However certain trends did emerge which are generally accepted.

1)  More of those over 50 voted leave, and under 50 remain.

2) The turnout was highest among the oldest group and lowest among the youngest group - you are correct there. This is the same pattern as in general elections of course

3) Areas where more residents had higher education voted strongly for remain..

4) Areas where more residents had no formal qualifications were slightly more likely to vote leave.

5) Higher income areas tended to vote remain.

 

This could suggest that if you were old, uneducated, and poor, you would be more likely to vote leave, but that is reading far to much into it. The remain voting young are also likely to be among the poor for example.

[Khun Han]

2 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

The data on the demographics of the referendum vote are very weak, apparently one main reason was because there were no party members accumulating voting intention information at the polling stations. However certain trends did emerge which are generally accepted.

1)  More of those over 50 voted leave, and under 50 remain.

2) The turnout was highest among the oldest group and lowest among the youngest group - you are correct there. This is the same pattern as in general elections of course

3) Areas where more residents had higher education voted strongly for remain..

4) Areas where more residents had no formal qualifications were slightly more likely to vote leave.

5) Higher income areas tended to vote remain.

 

This could suggest that if you were old, uneducated, and poor, you would be more likely to vote leave, but that is reading far to much into it. The remain voting young are also likely to be among the poor for example.

 

And on and on and on the remainers go with their inane attempts to discredit democracy because the result of the referendum went against them .

[Nigel Garvie]

5 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

And on and on and on the remainers go with their inane attempts to discredit democracy because the result of the referendum went against them .

Yes I did vote remain. What I posted was just a reference to some voting data. Nothing was said about democracy one way or the other. You should try reading what I posted again, if that doesn't work I humbly suggest you adjust the medication, your contribution might then become less inane!

[prestburypark]

Bloomberg can FRO

Time for some intellectual input, I thought.

[Khun Han]

19 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Yes I did vote remain. What I posted was just a reference to some voting data. Nothing was said about democracy one way or the other. You should try reading what I posted again, if that doesn't work I humbly suggest you adjust the medication, your contribution might then become less inane!

 

Pure intellectual dishonesty, which is so typical of remainers. Why did you post the voting data? And what relevance does it have to the op?

[Nigel Garvie]

8 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

Pure intellectual dishonesty, which is so typical of remainers. Why did you post the voting data? And what relevance does it have to the op?

I was attempting to put the "Young not getting out of bed" comment into a broader perspective, there were many more factors involved. However I now give up. I will retire with my "Pure intellectual dishonesty, which is so typical of remainers".  Oh dear!

[Khun Han]

1 minute ago, Nigel Garvie said:

I was attempting to put the "Young not getting out of bed" comment into a broader perspective, there were many more factors involved. However I now give up. I will retire with my "Pure intellectual dishonesty, which is so typical of remainers".  Oh dear!

 

Yes, I'd give up if I were you. You were the one who posted the screenshot of that nonsense by "Chris Webster (aged 54) Abergavenny" which prompted the reply about the young being too lazy to vote.

[Grouse]

1 hour ago, Khun Han said:

 

And on and on and on the remainers go with their inane attempts to discredit democracy because the result of the referendum went against them .

But it's undeniable that Brexit is the stupidest thing this country has done and that says all you need to know about the majority.

[citybiker]

But it's undeniable that Brexit is the stupidest thing this country has done and that says all you need to know about the majority.

Or possibly only viewed as stupid 'by some' as you disagree with the result?

Along with another poster posting voting data (one source isn't balanced either) to focus on lame point scoring.

The majority are being classed as under achievers, poorly educated and under 50 and of course living in areas of high unemployment, and of course the other focus is its a very emotional topic and thus less facts and evidence are being supplied to support posters arguement.

Personally, I'm a natural pessimist, realist and staunch EU sceptic but I hope overall both the UK & EU can move forward minus the unfortunate dislike and mudslinging and have a more constructive positive strategic mindset.


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[taipeir]

But he also says he's hiring thousands more people in London over the next few years, and that London is and will remain the finance hub of Europe.
Do you not see through his political manoeuvring here?

I don't think it will remain the finance hub of Europe at this rate. Maybe global tax haven ? Good luck with how that goes.

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[taipeir]

 

Yes, I'd give up if I were you. You were the one who posted the screenshot of that nonsense by "Chris Webster (aged 54) Abergavenny" which prompted the reply about the young being too lazy to vote.

He actually put together a nice summary thats not a sound bite.

 

That you are too spiteful to even read it says a lot about you.

 

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[Scott]

Off-topic posts reported and removed.  

[taipeir]

Or possibly only viewed as stupid 'by some' as you disagree with the result?

 

Along with another poster posting voting data (one source isn't balanced either) to focus on lame point scoring.

 

The majority are being classed as under achievers, poorly educated and under 50 and of course living in areas of high unemployment, and of course the other focus is its a very emotional topic and thus less facts and evidence are being supplied to support posters arguement.

 

Personally, I'm a natural pessimist, realist and staunch EU sceptic but I hope overall both the UK & EU can move forward minus the unfortunate dislike and mudslinging and have a more constructive positive strategic mindset.

 

 

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If you don't like his source post your own source with some reasoned debate. 

You don't just say it isn't reliable and you didn't even question what the source was or provide your own data or do your own research!

 

 

 

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[Grouse]

41 minutes ago, citybiker said:

Or possibly only viewed as stupid 'by some' as you disagree with the result?

Along with another poster posting voting data (one source isn't balanced either) to focus on lame point scoring.

The majority are being classed as under achievers, poorly educated and under 50 and of course living in areas of high unemployment, and of course the other focus is its a very emotional topic and thus less facts and evidence are being supplied to support posters arguement.

Personally, I'm a natural pessimist, realist and staunch EU sceptic but I hope overall both the UK & EU can move forward minus the unfortunate dislike and mudslinging and have a more constructive positive strategic mindset.


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NOT THE UNDER 50s

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

Pure intellectual dishonesty, which is so typical of remainers. Why did you post the voting data? And what relevance does it have to the op?

And this is why imo brexit won: they played dirtier.