webfact Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Police said Burmese maid shot herself in right side - but lawyer says she was left handed Picture: Daily News A top lawyer has demanded that the case of a young Burmese maid found shot dead at her employer's house in Ratchaburi be reopened. The police dismissed it as suicide but the evidence tells a different story, lawyer Ranarong Kaewphet told Daily New Online. Now the family want justice after going to the embassy for help in the latest case of a Burmese person apparently not receiving justice. Ranarong itemized three key points in the case after 17 year old Wan was found shot. * She was shot in the right side and the gun was found in her right hand - but she was left handed. * There were TWO shell casings found on the floor. * The maid had managed to open her employer's gun safe to get the gun. In addition Ranarong said that no proper procedure was done to forensically examine the corpse of the dead woman. The police signed off on the case saying that it was suicide - probably because the victim was cross about her elder sister going back to Burma. The lawyer dismisses this as nonsense. Speaking ironically he added: "Didn't the police find it strange that a Burmese maid would know how to open the safe of her employer to get the gun?" Now he plans to blow the case open after the mother and father of the victim went to the Burmese embassy in Thailand to appeal for justice. He added: "These people come to work in our country legally but they are clearly not adequately protected under the law". A meeting will be held tomorrow in which more details are expected to emerge. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-10-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I'm right handed but pretty sure I could pull a trigger with my left hand !! However, the lawyer is probably on the ball with this case... Good on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 For the cops it was simple math. She was Burmese, ergo, suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 as carlos said, good for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Did they do any gun powder residue checks on the owner, or even on her right hand ? Edited October 30, 2017 by 4MyEgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 21 minutes ago, Just1Voice said: For the cops it was simple math. She was Burmese, ergo, suicide. I believe it was simple math, but I suspect the math involved was a nice bung to the cops for reaching the somewhat dubious verdict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Forensic basics to disprove she did not shoot herself, probably no samples taken at all to start off with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgydownunder Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: Did they do any gun powder residue checks on the owner, or even on her right hand ? I think we know the answer to that already 4MyEgo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, webfact said: Police said Burmese maid shot herself in right side - but lawyer says she was left handed “Did I say her right, NO! I meant my right.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBradford Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I hope the lawyer looks after himself well, or he could accidentally fall into the Chao Praya river having attached two cement blocks to his feet after tying his own hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, RickBradford said: I hope the lawyer looks after himself well, or he could accidentally fall into the Chao Praya river having attached two cement blocks to his feet after tying his own hands. It might start with a Glasgow smile, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, RickBradford said: I hope the lawyer looks after himself well, or he could accidentally fall into the Chao Praya river having attached two cement blocks to his feet after tying his own hands. Yes; another suicide pending. Cops'; biggest mafia in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said: Did they do any gun powder residue checks on the owner, or even on her right hand ? You’re not implying they checked his hand, the Thai boss? Don’t be silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) "To Kill a Mockingbird" The more things change, the more they stay the same... R.I.P. (If you have not read the book, you should. Today!) Edited October 30, 2017 by Samui Bodoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbin Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, webfact said: no proper procedure was done to forensically examine the corpse of the dead woman. Is there ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnehaha Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: Did they do any gun powder residue checks on the owner, or even on her right hand ? that is asking a lot of Thai police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I am left handed but always shoot with my right, pistol & rifle. Always have. So to me, that is debatable. What I don't understand is the fact that there were two shell casings found, one wound and no report of finding the missing second (actually first) bullet remains and path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I've got an in-law who was a Senior Sgt Major for about 9 years. He finally told me he has finally managed to save enough to buy his Lieutenant's commission, and now that he had that, his income stream would practically double. And he wasn't talking about his legal salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee4Life Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: I'm right handed but pretty sure I could pull a trigger with my left hand !! However, the lawyer is probably on the ball with this case... Good on him yes you probably could...but the question would be...why would you use your left hand? (considering you are totally right-handed that is). I agree totally about the lawyer. Edited October 30, 2017 by Lee4Life clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarZaid Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Happy Grumpy said: In Thailand, the crime doesn't matter. It's: The status of the person that committed the crime. The status of the victim. When it is a wealthy Thai, versus Burmese peasant, there is only one outcome to the case......... sickening society and culture. Yup ... it's a clear cut caste system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: Did they do any gun powder residue checks on the owner, or even on her right hand ? Do they know what a gun powder residue check is? More likely the owner / employer told them the maid got the gun out of the safe and shot herself. A few wais and thank you sirs and that was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBradford Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Quote What I don't understand is the fact that there were two shell casings found, one wound and no report of finding the missing second (actually first) bullet remains and path. You don't understand because you are assuming that: the Thai police are competent; the Thai police are acting in good faith, and the reporter has sufficient common sense to accurately transmit information they were given A failure on any of those three points and you have an easily understandable situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, chrisinth said: I am left handed but always shoot with my right, pistol & rifle. Always have. So to me, that is debatable. What I don't understand is the fact that there were two shell casings found, one wound and no report of finding the missing second (actually first) bullet remains and path. Same here. And it's because my master eye is the right one. Agree more interesting is why 2 shell casings, how she opened the safe, (was the gun kept loaded), and the lack off powder residue checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 hours ago, webfact said: they are clearly not adequately protected under the law". sure they are; the current state of thai 'law' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 A number of posts that are either anti thai or just plain nonsense have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I hope some TV producer will be inspired one day and bring us "CSI: Thailand". He or she surely would have more than enough material to spin into hilarious screenplays and we all could look forward to enjoy what is destined to become the top comedy show of all time. Move aside, Seinfeld, inept Thai cops coming through! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Tong Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Hmmm. I wonder how high her boss is on the food chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 hours ago, webfact said: the latest case of a Burmese person apparently not receiving justice. Yep, I can think of two Burmese guys who 'received justice' they never asked for, and are still on death row in their capacity as scapegoats. That Burmese nationals still come to Thailand for work only proves that : 1/ They badly need the money, and 2/ Humans always assume that 'it only happens to others, not me'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: Did they do any gun powder residue checks on the owner, or even on her right hand ? What they did was rapidly cremate the body. Money and influence once again involved here in the land of two tier justice. If you're rich and influential you can murder the poor and get away with it. simple as that. Edited October 30, 2017 by dinsdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Just1Voice said: I've got an in-law who was a Senior Sgt Major for about 9 years. He finally told me he has finally managed to save enough to buy his Lieutenant's commission, and now that he had that, his income stream would practically double. And he wasn't talking about his legal salary. Well I hope you gave him a right ear-bashing. How can Thailand hope to escape from the third world when this goes on. Better to be poor and honest than rich and rotton to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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