webfact Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Woman who sued Chicago over right to bare breasts loses appeal By Jonathan Stempel (Reuters) - A divided federal appeals court said Chicago can enforce an ordinance banning women from baring their breasts in public. By a 2-1 vote, the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago late on Wednesday rejected an appeal by a woman who was ticketed for exposing her breasts on national "Go Topless Day." The dissenting judge objected to the majority's "premature" decision to endorse a law that she said might reflect "longstanding biases" toward how women should look in public. Sonoko Tagami, a supporter of GoTopless Inc, a nonprofit advocating for a woman's right to go bare-chested in public, sued Chicago after being ordered to pay a $100 fine plus $40 in costs over an Aug. 24, 2014, protest where she walked about with "opaque" body paint on her breasts. Tagami said Chicago violated her constitutional free speech and equal protection rights by letting men, but not women, bare their breasts. Writing for the majority, Circuit Judge Diane Sykes said Chicago had an important interest in "promoting traditional moral norms and public order," and restricting exposure of "intimate, erogenous, and private" body parts. "The list of intimate body parts is longer for women than men, but that's wholly attributable to the basic physiological differences between the sexes," wrote Sykes, joined by Circuit Judge Frank Easterbrook. Ilana Rovner, the dissenting judge, faulted the majority for "nakedly" declaring that Tagami's nudity, by itself, was not political protest. "Tagami was not sunbathing topless to even her tan lines, swinging topless on a light post to earn money, streaking across a football field to appear on television, or even nursing a baby," Rovner wrote. "Her conduct had but one purpose - to engage in a political protest challenging the city's ordinance on indecent exposure." Rovner said Tagami deserves her day in court, and a lower court judge should not have dismissed her lawsuit. "Do I relish the prospect of seeing bare-chested women in public?" Rovner wrote. "As a private citizen, I surely do not. (I would give the same answer with respect to bare-chested men.) "But I speak here strictly as a judge, with the responsibility to accord Tagami her constitutional rights." Tagami's lawyer, Joel Flaxman, in an interview said his client was disappointed and reviewing her legal options. "The majority went way too far in accepting the city's justification of promoting traditional moral norms and public order," he said. Bill McCaffrey, a spokesman for Chicago's law department, welcomed the decision. "These laws have a long history, and they are also extremely common," he said. The case is Tagami v City of Chicago et al, 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, No. 16-1441. (Reporting by Jonathan Stempel in New York; Editing by Lisa Von Ahn and Tom Brown) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-11-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) What a shame !!....the judge should have not only let these fine ladies off, but also thanked them all, for sharing in a charming public display !! Edited November 9, 2017 by observer90210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The ups and downs of this case made me dizzy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I think that the ruling is a huge travesty of justice women should be allowed to display those knockers when ever they they like providing the are aesthetically in appearance and not the kind that remind you of your mother.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On my many trips to Toronto, where it is not illegal, I have yet to see one woman taking up her right (or left either for that matter). It seems that women (72% according to one survey) are the main objectors to other women going topless in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 36 minutes ago, DoctorG said: On my many trips to Toronto, where it is not illegal, I have yet to see one woman taking up her right (or left either for that matter). It seems that women (72% according to one survey) are the main objectors to other women going topless in public. They dont want the extra L competition ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Tong Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Before reading the article, the headline had me thinking that this woman had lost her attractiveness due to some physical reason like boob flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Boobs and constitutional rights - common sense just flew out of the US window again ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 3 hours ago, webfact said: Tagami said Chicago violated her constitutional free speech and equal protection rights by letting men, but not women, bare their breasts I agree with her 100%. I know free speech is not absolute but allowing Nazis to march and spout hate speech while denying a woman to appear topless in public seems a more a judgement on morality than the US constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 3 hours ago, DoctorG said: On my many trips to Toronto, where it is not illegal, I have yet to see one woman taking up her right (or left either for that matter). It seems that women (72% according to one survey) are the main objectors to other women going topless in public. Not sure you were in Toronto on National topless day but some women do celebrate this right. Also mothers breast feeding in public can be seen regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I htink this says it all: A LOOK AT DIANE SYKES, POSSIBLE TRUMP SCOTUS NOMINEE http://www.newsweek.com/profile-diane-sykes-trumps-possible-scotus-nominee-531588 Easterbrook was nominated to the court by Ronald Reagan on August 1, 1984 to a new seat created by 98 Stat. 333, 346; the United States Senate did not act on his nomination that year, and he was renominated in Reagan's second term on February 25, 1985.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_H._Easterbrook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Ulic said: I agree with her 100%. I know free speech is not absolute but allowing Nazis to march and spout hate speech while denying a woman to appear topless in public seems a more a judgement on morality than the US constitution. Nazis? I really thought those bast*** were a thing of the past from Germany. Using that name again and again gives that dirt a kind of popularity. Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belzybob Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 I bet she feels a right tit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 When it comes to the crunch, these bloody Americans are such fuddy duddies Liberate them I I say !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) It's 'not" illegal to go topless in New Hampshire, USA or in New York City and several other states http://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20150802/NEWS/150809948 https://www.timeout.com/newyork/blog/four-ways-you-can-legally-bare-your-breasts-in-nyc-082416 https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/08/24/434315957/topless-in-new-york-the-legal-case-that-makes-going-top-free-legal-ish Besides the above performers I have seen women walking around Central Park and on subway topless Edited November 10, 2017 by Tony125 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Ulic said: I agree with her 100%. I know free speech is not absolute but allowing Nazis to march and spout hate speech while denying a woman to appear topless in public seems a more a judgement on morality than the US constitution. She was allowed to "march" though "Marching ", public displays of protest are allowed , public nudity isnt allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 The right decision would be only to allow women with perky boobs to go topless. Nobody wants to see flappy ones. They should also create a committee to determine the perkiness. A license to show boobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadeeken Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Let those babes 'show-em'........... Especially to muslim male terrorists, might get rid of some of those 'backpack bombers' before they take others with them......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Young and firm is an acceptable visual. But sagging used maternal extensions are not my thing. I have never been a boob man anyway. Would like to understand how the world (?) has been made to believe breasts are a sexual organ ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 So, she has the right to bear arms but not breasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwebb8825 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 18 hours ago, Tony125 said: Besides the above performers I have seen women walking around Central Park and on subway topless Photos and videos or it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Personally I'm all for it. If men can bare their breasts, then not allowing women to bare their breasts is totally sexist!!! Now, where in Antifa when you need them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac98 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 On 11/9/2017 at 5:57 PM, DoctorG said: On my many trips to Toronto, where it is not illegal, I have yet to see one woman taking up her right (or left either for that matter). It seems that women (72% according to one survey) are the main objectors to other women going topless in public. Vancouver promotes clothing-optional Wreck Beach, and occasional topless birds are seen on other public beaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 this story is worthless without pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 this story is worthless without picturesDon't get too worked up just google Sonoko Tagami. A flat chested plain looking Japanese. She could get a short haircut then go topless in the park. Police will pass her by as she can pass easily for a 12 year old school boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 The Americans are such hypocrites! Home of pornography and the most sexist music videos Who cares? Leave it to the individual! I find cows udders off putting can we get those covered up. BIG boost for the bra industries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac98 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 11/10/2017 at 2:08 AM, DrTuner said: The right decision would be only to allow women with perky boobs to go topless. Nobody wants to see flappy ones. They should also create a committee to determine the perkiness. A license to show boobs. Bras sexualize breasts. They should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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