snoop1130 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Construction of Thai-Chinese high-speed railway to begin in December The Transport Ministry is confident the construction of the 3.5-kilometre section of the Thai-Chinese high-speed railway between Klang Dong – Pang Asok stations in Nakhon Ratchasima province will begin in December since the environmental impact assessment report for it has been completed, Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith said. The construction of the 3.5-km section of the railway between Klang Dong and Pang Asok stations in Nakhon Ratchasima has been delayed because the EIA report is still pending approval, Mr Arkhom said after a meeting of the committee on the management of the Thai-Chinese high-speed railway project on Wednesday (Nov 15). The railway’s first phase will connect Bangkok to Nakhon Ratchasima, with the second phase linking Nakhon Ratchasima and Nong Khai. Mr Arkhom said the EIA report has been sent to the Office of the Natural Resources and Environment Policy and Planning for consideration for the 7th time and a representative of the Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment said it is already completed. It is believed the EIA report will be forwarded to a cabinet meeting in November and the construction will start in mid-December, he said. Full Story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/construction-thai-chinese-high-speed-railway-begin-december/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-11-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bheard Posted November 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2017 The EIA report is of course just window dressing, as they are in most parts of the world.However I'm looking forward to riding on that train one day.My gf living in Korat is sweating on it, she's got shopping expeditions to BKK planned already.Fortunately for me the money she'll be using will be her own hard earned, so not to worry! Sent from my F3116 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Well underway in Khonkaen, new station going in and raised tracks through the city, And lots of new drive over bridges being built.. Not saying the fast train will be here anytime soon, but what they are doing and the speed it is being constructed is very admirable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 And how long have they been discussing HS2 in UK? Mind you, 3.5 km at 300kph will take.......1.5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davidkas Posted November 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, wgdanson said: And how long have they been discussing HS2 in UK? Mind you, 3.5 km at 300kph will take.......1.5 minutes. I hope the contract writers for the railway had better maths... 42 seconds 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslimversgwm Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I want to live long enough to see a high speed train from here, Chiang Mai, to BKK and even Chiang Rai! Well I'm only 74 so surely I'm not dreaming?! Ha haha! But good to see definite progress elsewhere. I love trains as a means of transport and so pleased to read about the raiway renaissance everywhere- an environmental benefit for all of us. Get out of our polluting, environmentally damaging unsafe cars and trucks asap! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 First construction accident casualties expected by mid January? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: delayed because the EIA report is still pending approval I think this may be a "smoke screen." When Prayut invoked Article 44 to expedite the project, he waived all legal impediments including the EIA that could affect the start of construction. The more likely cause is the delay of Chinese designs for this project segment, albeit perhaps forestalled for example by slow acquisition of rights of way by Thai authorities. To avoid criticism of the government (which has been frequent lately) it would be easy to blame a now active EIA process. Look over here and not over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman58 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Dont worry no Thais will be hurt building it Because none will be working there They be all from Laos Cambodia Burma No matter if they get hurt plenty more where they come from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 13 hours ago, nev said: Well underway in Khonkaen, new station going in and raised tracks through the city, And lots of new drive over bridges being built.. Not saying the fast train will be here anytime soon, but what they are doing and the speed it is being constructed is very admirable. That's for Khon Kaen's Skytrain, not the High Speed link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godang Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 13 hours ago, nev said: Well underway in Khonkaen, new station going in and raised tracks through the city, And lots of new drive over bridges being built.. Not saying the fast train will be here anytime soon, but what they are doing and the speed it is being constructed is very admirable. I think you will find that is for a tram system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Lupatria said: First construction accident casualties expected by mid January? Yep, made in China.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, nev said: Well underway in Khonkaen, new station going in and raised tracks through the city, And lots of new drive over bridges being built.. Not saying the fast train will be here anytime soon, but what they are doing and the speed it is being constructed is very admirable. I suspect that what you're seeing is this different project, part of upgrading the existing metre-gauge line, and nothing to do with the proposed new Chinese medium-speed line. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30324593 As the OP says, construction of even just the 3.5km test-track for the latter has not yet started. Edited November 17, 2017 by Ricardo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 This month's delay, from last month's report, as to when work on the test-track will start ... https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1006552-construction-of-thai-chinese-high-speed-railway-to-start-in-november/ I wonder how many years late this 3.5km test-track now is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 13 hours ago, nev said: Well underway in Khonkaen, new station going in and raised tracks through the city, And lots of new drive over bridges being built.. Not saying the fast train will be here anytime soon, but what they are doing and the speed it is being constructed is very admirable. And all that work is just for the double track metre gauge railway. The whole line from Khon Kaen to Korat is one big building project. May the Chinese strategic railway stay away for a very, very long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ricardo said: This month's delay, from last month's report, as to when work on the test-track will start ... https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1006552-construction-of-thai-chinese-high-speed-railway-to-start-in-november/ I wonder how many years late this 3.5km test-track now is ? Not late enough. The upgrading of the existing system should be finished first. It certainly does not need a Chinese competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, hansnl said: Not late enough. The upgrading of the existing system should be finished first. It certainly does not need a Chinese competition. But the Chinese medium-speed mainly-freight line will only compete, with the SRT metre-gauge network (upgraded or otherwise) on the North-Eastern line & the branch into Laem Chabang. With foresight it may well even feed container-freight, with a change-of-gauge, into the existing network and onwards to the rest of Thailand ? I doubt that the SRT will track-double/upgrade the N.E.-line further, than what's already done/underway, that would be a waste of money, now that the Chinese line looks more-likely to be built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 34 minutes ago, MaxLee said: Yep, made in China.... RR signal & control equipment and train carriage system provided and installed by the Chinese. But Thailand will be constructing the infrastructure (grading, bridges, tunnels, stations, road gates) and laying the track. Shoddy Thai workmanship will likely be the earliest cause of casualties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Godang said: I think you will find that is for a tram system. It is not for the tram system it is upgrading the existing train lines as others have stated, it is quiet big the new station so I suppose they have built to incorporate the new Chinese bullets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Srikcir said: RR signal & control equipment and train carriage system provided and installed by the Chinese. But Thailand will be constructing the infrastructure (grading, bridges, tunnels, stations, road gates) and laying the track. Shoddy Thai workmanship will likely be the earliest cause of casualties. off the rail track 100% guaranteed incoming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, hansnl said: And all that work is just for the double track metre gauge railway. The whole line from Khon Kaen to Korat is one big building project. May the Chinese strategic railway stay away for a very, very long time. 3.5km. Is that window dressing for am election or what? Why start with such a small stage? When are we hoping to get some tech specs such as gauge, projected train speed and how much of it will be double tracked? Let alone a completion date that is not borrowed from Monty Python...... Edited November 17, 2017 by The Deerhunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, The Deerhunter said: When are we hoping to get some tech specs such as gauge, projected train speed and how much of it will be double tracked? Sorry, all in Chinese - not in the international language of Thai. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 44 minutes ago, The Deerhunter said: 3.5km. Is that window dressing for am election or what? Why start with such a small stage? When are we hoping to get some tech specs such as gauge, projected train speed and how much of it will be double tracked? Let alone a completion date that is not borrowed from Monty Python...... I hope to be proven wrong but it is hard for a Farang to remain positive about some of these projects when the only information given seems to be based on vague suppositions by officials who know nothing and reported by journalists who do not seem to know how to ask obvious questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 good news if it goes ahead, especially if there is potential for rail freight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 3.5 Kilometer say's it all , shortest rail journey in the universe, the Hub of H/S trains, total clap trap........................................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Srikcir said: RR signal & control equipment and train carriage system provided and installed by the Chinese. But Thailand will be constructing the infrastructure (grading, bridges, tunnels, stations, road gates) and laying the track. Shoddy Thai workmanship will likely be the earliest cause of casualties. ..".road gates..............'. On a high Speed Railway system? Not likely, too dangerous.Bridges and tunnels, yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, ratcatcher said: ..".road gates..............'. On a high Speed Railway system? Not likely, too dangerous.Bridges and tunnels, yes. Didn't say road gates crossing tracks. Just in connection with infrastructure. Also note the system will also carry container cargo shipments obviously not at high speed. Once saw an artist rendering of one track for high speed passenger and one for cargo but can't find it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Wonderful news as it will go north and later move south of Thailand.....just please excise caution on the standard construction protocols for the tracks, later on the breaks on the trains, and put in some high quality materials and workmanship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 It's still a fairy tale to me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 16/11/2017 at 6:39 PM, snoop1130 said: Construction of Thai-Chinese high-speed railway to begin in December Believe it when you see it. Just the other day they announced they wouldn't accept the loan conditions of the Chinese. Nothing this government says is believable. The Thai-Japanese high speed train line is supposed to commence construction this month. And I will wager money that won't happen. Prayut now says he doesn't want it to go fast; instead he wants a slow high-speed train. This military government is full of dreams, plenty of doublespeak, lots of wasted money and no action. Alice in Wonderland and the Mad Hatter would be proud of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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