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China says 'dual suspension' proposal still best for North Korea

 

U.S. President Donald Trump and China's President Xi Jinping arrive at a state dinner at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, China, November 9, 2017. REUTERS/Thomas Peter

 

BEIJING (Reuters) - China said on Thursday a "dual suspension" proposal to handle North Korea was still the best option, after U.S. President Donald Trump said he and Chinese President Xi Jinping had rejected a "freeze for freeze" agreement.

 

North Korea's rapid progress in developing nuclear weapons and missiles has fuelled a surge in regional tensions as United Nations-led sanctions appear to have failed to bite deeply enough to change its behaviour.

 

China and Russia have proposed that the United States and South Korea stop major military exercises in exchange for North Korea halting its weapons programmes.

 

Beijing formally calls the idea the "dual suspension" proposal.

 

Speaking upon his return from Asia on Wednesday, Trump said he and Xi had agreed that they would not accept a "freeze for freeze" idea, which China's foreign minister announced in March.

 

Asked how China understood Trump's remarks and whether he agreed with the characterisation of what Trump said he agreed to with Xi, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said only through talks that addressed all sides' legitimate security concerns could there be a peaceful resolution.

 

"We believe that the 'dual suspension' proposal is the most feasible, fair and sensible plan in the present situation," Geng told a daily news briefing.

 

"Not only can it relieve the present tense situation, it can also resolve all parties most pressing security concerns, and provide an opportunity and create conditions to resume talks, and find a breakthrough point to get out of trouble," he added.

 

The "dual suspension" is just a first step and not the end point, Geng added.

 

"We hope that all sides can conscientiously treat and proactively consider China's proposal, and at the same time we welcome relevant parties to put forward proposals that can benefit the promotion of a peaceful resolution for the peninsula nuclear issue."

 

Asked at a regular briefing if Trump stood by his remarks as to what he had agreed with Xi, White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders on Thursday replied: "Both sides made their positions clear. They are different, but we agreed that there are going to be different positions and therefore it's not going to move forward."

 

North Korea has said it needs to develop its weapons to protect itself from what it sees as U.S. military aggression. It also sees U.S.-South Korean military exercises as joint preparations for invasion.

 

South Korea and the United States, which has about 28,000 troops based in South Korea, say their exercises are "defensive in nature."

 

(Reporting by Ben Blanchard in Beijing and David Brunnstrom in Washington; editing by Robert Birsel and G Crosse)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-11-17

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

North Korea halting its weapons programmes

And who will perform inspections and monitor all nuclear weapons programs and assure that there is complete disclosure of all the programs?

I'm sure the Chinese will offer to do so.

But I doubt North Korea will give up the secrets of its nuclear weapons programs. China will propose some diplomatic window dressing for accountability of North Korea compliance. Then within three months there will be a hydrogen nuclear air burst in the Pacific.

[Rancid]

2 hours ago, Srikcir said:

And who will perform inspections and monitor all nuclear weapons programs and assure that there is complete disclosure of all the programs?

I'm sure the Chinese will offer to do so.

But I doubt North Korea will give up the secrets of its nuclear weapons programs. China will propose some diplomatic window dressing for accountability of North Korea compliance. Then within three months there will be a hydrogen nuclear air burst in the Pacific.

Who monitors the US, UK, France, Israel, India and Pakistan?

[sweatalot]

OT this is about NK

[Srikcir]

56 minutes ago, Rancid said:

Who monitors the US, UK, France, Israel, India and Pakistan?

Actually under SALT Russia and USA monitor each other on EXISTING number of nuclear ICBM's and under the Nonproliferation Treaty.

 

But monitoring existing nuclear ICBM forces are not what we have with North KOREA who withdrew from the Nonproliferation Treaty. The issue is preventing North Korea nuclear weapons development into deliverable ICBM's such as with Iran. The "nuclear deal" with Iran requires onsite inspections, shutdown of enriching U238 for bombs and removal of existing nuclear-making bomb material.

 

Your question, while answerable, is not germane to the subject topic, ie., off-topic.

[craigt3365]

1 hour ago, Rancid said:

Who monitors the US, UK, France, Israel, India and Pakistan?

Deflection...as usual...

[mrwebb8825]

I truly do not believe there is a way to denuclearize N. Korea that does not involve swift, relentless, unannounced violence. The waiting game is a very dangerous game to be playing with Un.

It could be true that he feels his grasp weakening and that's why he's playing the friendly leader riding tractors and smiling at workers in hopes his own people won't revolt and assassinate him.

That could prove devastating because he just might launch starting a war hoping it unifies the people to his side.

On the other hand, a preemptive strike could have the same effect but would not kill as many people in other countries.

History shows us that when we dropped "Fatman and Littleboy" on Japan, it completely took the fight out of the rest of the country. Many people died but many more were saved by ending the threat. They finally got over it and are now US allies.

I lean towards preemptive because retaliatory would cost the most lives throughout the region.

I don't envy President Trump's position and the predicament his predecessors put him in with N. Korea by being weak.

[Srikcir]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

U.S. President Donald Trump said he and Chinese President Xi Jinping had rejected a "freeze for freeze" agreement.

Just hours ago Xi crossed Trump to call for N. Korea-US freeze for freeze: U.S. and South Korea would suspend large-scale military exercises in return, remained a “first step.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/11/16/china-reiterates-call-for-north-korea-us-freeze-for-freeze-initiative.html

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/11/17/asia-pacific/china-renews-call-north-korea-u-s-freeze-freeze-agreement/

“The days of the United States being taken advantage of are over,”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/15/trump-asia-trip-white-house-speech-america

Your turn Mr. President Trump.

[Scott]

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[sweatalot]

China says 'dual suspension' proposal still best for North Korea

I might be able to agree with him if he adds

"after replacing the totalitarian regime by a democratic one and denuclearize the country"

 

(in short dekimize and denuclearize)

Edited November 18, 2017 by sweatalot