2 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

Baerboxer supports remain.

touché!

2 hours ago, Khun Han said:

It's the need to keep some kind of political unity within the government and it's party. The economic argument is purely speculative.

Well with the government, the Tory party and Parliament in complete disunity the plan really isn't working is it!

 

 

2 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

2 hours ago, Khun Han said:

If the EU were dealing with a unified UK, it's position would be much, much weaker. High level meetings with the Corbynistas, war criminal Blair, etc, show us that the EU is hand-in-glove with the UK's brexit saboteurs.

Or in reality, nobody has any faith in May and Davis being able to pull off any successful negotiations.  I agree that Blair shouldn't be involved but Corbyn, as leader of the opposition, has every right to be involved.  Are there Brexit saboteurs?  Absolutely, because we can't just walk into this disaster like the Brexiteer sheep. 

 

 

6 hours ago, transam said:

Be good if the Germans paid the UK it's costs for the death a destruction it caused for achieving nothing...

Asinine 

3 hours ago, vogie said:

If you divorce your wife and she screws you, that'll be ok will it?

Well she didn't before

3 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

And exponentially the biggest reason for the mess is remain refusing to accept the decision to leave, and undermining the government on it at every turn.

Do you know what expontially means or were you just being hyperbolic?

7 hours ago, dunroaming said:

10 hours ago, Khun Han said:

It's the need to keep some kind of political unity within the government and it's party. The economic argument is purely speculative.

Well with the government, the Tory party and Parliament in complete disunity the plan really isn't working is it!

 

 

10 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

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If the EU were dealing with a unified UK, it's position would be much, much weaker. High level meetings with the Corbynistas, war criminal Blair, etc, show us that the EU is hand-in-glove with the UK's brexit saboteurs.

Or in reality, nobody has any faith in May and Davis being able to pull off any successful negotiations.  I agree that Blair shouldn't be involved but Corbyn, as leader of the opposition, has every right to be involved.  Are there Brexit saboteurs?  Absolutely, because we can't just walk into this disaster like the Brexiteer sheep. 

 

 

 

Nope. Corbyn should be briefed by the UK government, not the EU. If you can't see that the EU liaising directly with the UK opposition stinks to high heaven, there is no hope for you.

 

Congratulations. Finally, you have admitted that remainers are behaving treacherously. Dress the treachery up however you want, but that is what it is. And, it's ok, you don't have to disown the war criminal Blair: he just wants the same as you. He's one of you.

12 hours ago, alant said:

I didn't understand your response, am I living a dream? Need I Get Real?

I don´t know, do you? If you don´t know, maybe it´s time to think about it.

Brussels is strictly in this for the money.

Greedy lot.

49 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Brussels is strictly in this for the money.

Greedy lot.

The UK appears to be strictly in this to lose the economy lots of money. Stupid clots.

16 hours ago, vogie said:

As James Stewart once said 'oh Rudy Rudy Rudy.'

Is that called finding fault saying he hasn't any paper with him, maybe he's gone digital, I don't know. If Teresa May had sent Henry Kissenger you would still have found fault.

But instead they sent Thomas The Tank Engine. No wonder talk now of chucking out Davis. Total embarrassment.

16 hours ago, vogie said:

If you divorce your wife and she screws you, that'll be ok will it?

The Brexiteers would of course ask her to forego all claims of alimony and put out for old times sake.

blackmail

nasty foreigners

best to be rid of the ungrateful lot of them

15 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

If the EU were dealing with a unified UK, it's position would be much, much weaker. High level meetings with the Corbynistas, war criminal Blair, etc, show us that the EU is hand-in-glove with the UK's brexit saboteurs.

Hello! Its our old friends the Conspiracy Theories crew back in town. Right on time whenever the Brexit project wheels look a bit wobbly. David Davis now giving the performance of his life as Mr Wobbly. Time to get shot of him but who on earth to replace the Shakespearian Fool?

19 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

But instead they sent Thomas The Tank Engine. No wonder talk now of chucking out Davis. Total embarrassment.

They could have sent Tommy, the deaf, dumb and blind kid, it wouldn't made any difference with negotiators who don't want to negotiate.

33 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

The Brexiteers would of course ask her to forego all claims of alimony and put out for old times sake.

 

Reality, the British government is still totally unprepared for Brexit. The policy documents prepared for government have been blocked from publication because 'they are not complete'. More likely they all show a disastrous outcome. And so far we have seen only the vaguest of plans for Brexit, with just confident comments of 'that it will be all right on the night' without any explanation why.

 

As the Irish premier said, "You haven't really thought Brexit through, have you?". And let's face it, nearly any Brexit deal will screw Ireland. Who in their right minds thinks Ireland will vote for a deal with the UK? And it needs UNANIMOUS agreement from all 27 other countries. Even if an acceptable deal could be cobbled together, it would need to be done by the end of next summer to give it time to go before the other 27 countries. So far we haven't managed to answer most of the pre-conditions yet. (How much money do we owe? Seems the Uk government still doesn't know, or isn't telling).

 

All the big companies need to start implementing Brexit plans NOW, but government will not tell them anything. Expect a mass Exodus starting in the spring. I would really like to see what the capital outflows from the UK are, because only the insane would keep cash on deposit there.

 

I'm sorry, but Brexiteers live in a Dream world, and everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault. Name one POSITIVE  achievement since the referendum .......

On 11/18/2017 at 5:21 AM, rooster59 said:

Tusk said pointedly: "I can say only that I really appreciate Mr. Davis's English sense of humour."

Obviously not a patch on that of the Poles, nor the EU. The Poles elected Tusk their PM; the EU decided he was competent to run its council - though, there, competent is subjective.

4 hours ago, rickudon said:

Reality, the British government is still totally unprepared for Brexit. The policy documents prepared for government have been blocked from publication because 'they are not complete'. More likely they all show a disastrous outcome. And so far we have seen only the vaguest of plans for Brexit, with just confident comments of 'that it will be all right on the night' without any explanation why.

 

As the Irish premier said, "You haven't really thought Brexit through, have you?". And let's face it, nearly any Brexit deal will screw Ireland. Who in their right minds thinks Ireland will vote for a deal with the UK? And it needs UNANIMOUS agreement from all 27 other countries. Even if an acceptable deal could be cobbled together, it would need to be done by the end of next summer to give it time to go before the other 27 countries. So far we haven't managed to answer most of the pre-conditions yet. (How much money do we owe? Seems the Uk government still doesn't know, or isn't telling).

 

All the big companies need to start implementing Brexit plans NOW, but government will not tell them anything. Expect a mass Exodus starting in the spring. I would really like to see what the capital outflows from the UK are, because only the insane would keep cash on deposit there.

 

I'm sorry, but Brexiteers live in a Dream world, and everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault. Name one POSITIVE  achievement since the referendum .......

How much money do we owe? None, I would posit. But the EU, especially the countries that are net recipients, would obviously prefer to come up with a figure, the more, the merrier. 

 

'Name one POSITIVE  achievement since the referendum .......' That most of the NEGATIVE predictions have so far failed to materialise.

On ‎18‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 8:53 AM, Get Real said:

Why on earth would EU loose UK as a market? Long before EU it was a lot of trading that all countries could benefit from.
You´re living in a dream. The rules is going to be set so tight, so it would have been much better to never have been talking about a Brexit.

There are loads of countries outside the EU you can trade with.

16 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

There are loads of countries outside the EU you can trade with.

Oki doki! Good luck! 

2 minutes ago, Get Real said:

Oki doki! Good luck! 

 

 

Thanks, it has been done before.

6 hours ago, rickudon said:

I'm sorry, but Brexiteers live in a Dream world, and everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault. Name one POSITIVE  achievement since the referendum .......

 

Activating article 50.

1 hour ago, Jonmarleesco said:

Obviously not a patch on that of the Poles, nor the EU. The Poles elected Tusk their PM; the EU decided he was competent to run its council - though, there, competent is subjective.

 

The "We want our money back" mantra was quite humorous, bearing in mind that we've been nett givers since we joined.

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Thanks, it has been done before.

 

And countries are queueing up to do it again.

3 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

The "We want our money back" mantra was quite humorous, bearing in mind that we've been nett givers since we joined.

So, all UK institutions in receipt of EU funds will be more than happy to hear that from Brexit Day 1 there is more than enough funds in the Government kitty to cover all lost income 100%.

3 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

And countries are queueing up to do it again.

In your dreams.

23 hours ago, Khun Han said:

Nope. Corbyn should be briefed by the UK government, not the EU. If you can't see that the EU liaising directly with the UK opposition stinks to high heaven, there is no hope for you.

Congratulations. Finally, you have admitted that remainers are behaving treacherously. Dress the treachery up however you want, but that is what it is. And, it's ok, you don't have to disown the war criminal Blair: he just wants the same as you. He's one of you.

Some Hard Brexiteers on this forum just occasionally let their nasty side off the leash and it isn't a pretty sight.

15 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

In your dreams.

 

Nope . Fact. You really want the UK to suffer from brexit, don't you? Are you really British?

8 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Some Hard Brexiteers on this forum just occasionally let their nasty side off the leash and it isn't a pretty sight.

 

Mr Cheap Shot is at it again . Does he have a side that isn't nasty? I've yet to see it. Dressmakers clearly only do bitchy debate, darling.

16 hours ago, rickudon said:

Reality, the British government is still totally unprepared for Brexit. The policy documents prepared for government have been blocked from publication because 'they are not complete'. More likely they all show a disastrous outcome. And so far we have seen only the vaguest of plans for Brexit, with just confident comments of 'that it will be all right on the night' without any explanation why.

 

As the Irish premier said, "You haven't really thought Brexit through, have you?". And let's face it, nearly any Brexit deal will screw Ireland. Who in their right minds thinks Ireland will vote for a deal with the UK? And it needs UNANIMOUS agreement from all 27 other countries. Even if an acceptable deal could be cobbled together, it would need to be done by the end of next summer to give it time to go before the other 27 countries. So far we haven't managed to answer most of the pre-conditions yet. (How much money do we owe? Seems the Uk government still doesn't know, or isn't telling).

 

All the big companies need to start implementing Brexit plans NOW, but government will not tell them anything. Expect a mass Exodus starting in the spring. I would really like to see what the capital outflows from the UK are, because only the insane would keep cash on deposit there.

 

I'm sorry, but Brexiteers live in a Dream world, and everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault. Name one POSITIVE  achievement since the referendum .......

(How much money do we owe? Seems the Uk government still doesn't know, or isn't telling).

 

How strange you are, the EU is demanding money, they have to quantify the amount, not the UK.