Kieran00001 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 8 hours ago, transam said: Wine is involved with Christianity/ Catholicism, deaths, marriages, births, toasts of respect etc...I just want to know the reason why a glass of vino cannot be sold on a Buddha day....There must be a reason... Buddha was really quite against alcohol, he called it a poison the clouds the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: Buddha was really quite against alcohol, he called it a poison the clouds the mind. 10 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: Buddha was really quite against alcohol, he called it a poison the clouds the mind. He was probably right, but he also said this: "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, stephen tracy said: He was probably right, but he also said this: "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. " No, he didn't, but it does make for a rather humorous case of irony on those who blindly repeat that internet lie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Kieran00001 said: No, he didn't, but it does make for a rather humorous case of irony on those who blindly repeat that internet lie! You're totally right, according to this guy, it's a "poor paraphrase". I'm not even sure it deserves to be called a paraphrase, it's quite different: https://fakebuddhaquotes.com/the-endless-round-of-fake-buddha-quotes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 45 minutes ago, stephen tracy said: You're totally right, according to this guy, it's a "poor paraphrase". I'm not even sure it deserves to be called a paraphrase, it's quite different: https://fakebuddhaquotes.com/the-endless-round-of-fake-buddha-quotes/ Quite different indeed, who could even say for sure if that was the original that was poorly phrased? There are an awful lot of these fake quotes floating around these days, I cant help but wonder who is producing them and why, is it all a joke, a social experiment, attempts to subvert, just an idiot making a mistake? Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Ron Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 15 hours ago, stephen tracy said: I can only speak for myself but I don't view tourists with disdain at all. Why would anyone? I don't think it's whining, I think it's just people pointing out that it's a stupid law that serves no purpose. It's a stupid law in your opinion as a Westerner used to different societal norms but it's not a stupid law in the eyes of the Thais and, last I checked, this is their country so their rules apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, Thai Ron said: It's a stupid law in your opinion as a Westerner used to different societal norms but it's not a stupid law in the eyes of the Thais and, last I checked, this is their country so their rules apply. It seems the ma & pa shops that carry on selling beer think it's a stupid law, if they didn't they wouldn't sell it would they... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Ron Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, transam said: It seems the ma & pa shops that carry on selling beer think it's a stupid law, if they didn't they wouldn't sell it would they... Must be a really slow day in the boonies if you felt the need to state the obvious. Of course the law wouldn't be popular with those whose incomes might be impacted by the inability to sell a few beers. Super poll's survey says most Thais support alcohol sales on buddha days. It doesn't say all. Perhaps you can't see the distinction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeVonderBearz Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I wonder what the Christians and Thais of other faiths think about this matter. Why not one rule for the Buddhists who wish to not drink and let everybody else be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, Thai Ron said: Must be a really slow day in the boonies if you felt the need to state the obvious. Of course the law wouldn't be popular with those whose incomes might be impacted by the inability to sell a few beers. Super poll's survey says most Thais support alcohol sales on buddha days. It doesn't say all. Perhaps you can't see the distinction So you believe Polls........You believe local Buddhist folk would vote against Buddhist stuff... If ma & pa shops are Buddhist folk surely they would follow the rules over making a few quid...?....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 36 minutes ago, ZeVonderBearz said: I wonder what the Christians and Thais of other faiths think about this matter. Why not one rule for the Buddhists who wish to not drink and let everybody else be. Sure, same in the West, why prevent Muslims etc from opening their shops on Christmas morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Ron Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, transam said: So you believe Polls........You believe local Buddhist folk would vote against Buddhist stuff... If ma & pa shops are Buddhist folk surely they would follow the rules over making a few quid...?....... You're not even worth responding to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Thai Ron said: You're not even worth responding to .........Because you have no answers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Sure, same in the West, why prevent Muslims etc from opening their shops on Christmas morning.Eh? Where is there a law in the west about what can open on Christmas morning? Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeVonderBearz Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Kieran00001 said: Sure, same in the West, why prevent Muslims etc from opening their shops on Christmas morning. Really? Christmas day in the UK there is always a corner shop open where I live, be it Iqbal's, Sandeep's or Chris' shop, there's always one. Maybe your home country stops Muslims from opening but mine sure don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Eh? Where is there a law in the west about what can open on Christmas morning? Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Here, LOL https://www.gov.uk/trading-hours-for-retailers-the-law "Rules for large shops in England and Wales Shops over 280 square metres: can open on Sundays but only for 6 consecutive hours between 10am and 6pm must close on Easter Sunday must close on Christmas Day" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 22 minutes ago, ZeVonderBearz said: Really? Christmas day in the UK there is always a corner shop open where I live, be it Iqbal's, Sandeep's or Chris' shop, there's always one. Maybe your home country stops Muslims from opening but mine sure don't. Sure, small shops can open, but what about the likes of Al Fayad, he had to close his shop on Christmas day and Easter Sunday, by law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: Here, LOL https://www.gov.uk/trading-hours-for-retailers-the-law "Rules for large shops in England and Wales Shops over 280 square metres: can open on Sundays but only for 6 consecutive hours between 10am and 6pm must close on Easter Sunday must close on Christmas Day" Large.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, transam said: Large.... So? Plenty of non-Christians own large shops in the UK but all of them are forced to obey the Christian trading law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Quote Most Thais support alcohol sales ban on Buddhist holidays On 19/11/2017 at 7:44 AM, rooster59 said: And 84.2 per cent of the respondents blamed drinking for road accidents, family violence, crimes, quarrels and sexual assaults. I agree that alcohol is a major factor in all the above. But, is there any evidence that these things occur less on "holy days" when alcohol sales are banned? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Then the non-Christian folk should eye non large shops if the dates affect them..I always closed on bank holidays...Was a total waste of time opening cos folk were doing their thing.. BUT, l could always get an Indian slap up meal delivered to my door at ANY time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, transam said: Then the non-Christian folk should eye non large shops if the dates affect them..I always closed on bank holidays...Was a total waste of time opening cos folk were doing their thing.. BUT, l could always get an Indian slap up meal delivered to my door at ANY time... And the non-Buddhists in Thailand should eye their alcohol the day before, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeVonderBearz Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: Sure, small shops can open, but what about the likes of Al Fayad, he had to close his shop on Christmas day and Easter Sunday, by law. 14 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: So? Plenty of non-Christians own large shops in the UK but all of them are forced to obey the Christian trading law. Yes, large shops will close. Maybe because if large shops were given the choice between opening on Xmas to make a few extra quid at the expense of their workers, denying them time to be with their families then I'm sure they would. Al-Fayed just so happens to be born in Egypt, so could be a Muslim, his shop is closed because it is large. Had he owned chains of service stations, they'd be open for Xmas day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, ZeVonderBearz said: Yes, large shops will close. Maybe because if large shops were given the choice between opening on Xmas to make a few extra quid at the expense of their workers, denying them time to be with their families then I'm sure they would. Al-Fayed just so happens to be born in Egypt, so could be a Muslim, his shop is closed because it is large. Had he owned chains of service stations, they'd be open for Xmas day. What if all the staff are non-Christians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: And the non-Buddhists in Thailand should eye their alcohol the day before, right? Absolutely, if they KNOW their local shops tow the line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Here, LOLhttps://www.gov.uk/trading-hours-for-retailers-the-law "Rules for large shops in England and Wales Shops over 280 square metres: can open on Sundays but only for 6 consecutive hours between 10am and 6pm must close on Easter Sunday must close on Christmas Day"Where is the law that all shops must close?Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeVonderBearz Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: What if all the staff are non-Christians? Nice trolling pal, top work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Ron Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, transam said: .........Because you have no answers..... Nah, I just can't dumb things down any further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Thai Ron said: Nah, I just can't dumb things down any further Glad to hear it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 54 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Where is the law that all shops must close? Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Who said all shops must close? No one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.png.3b3332cc2256ad0edbc2fe9404feeef0.png)
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now