Lie-detector tests failed by Jomsap allies

By Piyanuch Thamnukasetchai, 
Tawee Apisakulchart 
The Nation

 

 

Seven suspects face perjury complaints

TWO KEY suspects accused of falsifying evidence to clear the name of former teacher Jomsap Saenmuangkhot, who has been convicted of a 2005 fatal hit-and-run, failed a lie-detector test, Justice Ministry deputy permanent secretary Pol Colonel Dusadee Arawuit said yesterday.

 

Dusadee spoke up about the issue after the Supreme Court last Friday threw out Jomsap’s request for a retrial. 

 

In 2013, the Supreme Court convicted Jomsap of causing the accident, which killed Lua Phorbamrung, and she served 18 months in prison. Although she was released early on a royal pardon, Jomsap has still maintained her innocence.

 

In recent years, her close friend Suriya Nuancharoen and Sap Wapi, a resident of Mukdahan, have come forward to back her claim, with the latter claiming that he was responsible for the accident. 

 

Dusadee yesterday said Jomsap had contacted his ministry for help in 2015. 

 

“When I was assigned to look into her case, I ordered that Sap and Suriya undergo lie-detector tests,” he said. 

 

Both failed, suggesting that they might have been falsifying evidence, he said. 

 

“But when we helped Jomsap seek a retrial, we did not focus on what Sap and Suriya said. Rather, we focused on the fact that scientific tests showed Jomsap’s pickup had never had any accident,” Dusadee said. 

 

He added that Jomsap had sought help from his ministry because she felt she had not received justice. “It’s not the same issue as faking evidence.” 

 

The Court of Appeals gave Jomsap the benefit of the doubt because some evidence suggested she might have not been involved. 

 

“But now that the Supreme Court has already made its decision. We have to respect that,” Dusadee said. 

 

He added that Jomsap was also resigned to her fate. 

 

The Help Crime Victim Club yesterday also pledged to demand that the Justice Ministry investigate judicial officials who had tried to assist Jomsap. “How much was spent on the case? Were efforts made by the ministry’s team legitimate? Were judicial officials involved in evidence forgery?” club chairman Atchariya Ruangrat-tanapong asked. 

 

In a related development, official perjury complaints have been filed against seven suspects in the alleged plot to clear Jomsap’s name.

 

Sap, Suriya, Chan Wapi, Boontoeng Wapi and Lert Wapi, Jomsap’s husband Niran Saengmuangkhot and Tassanee Harnpayak all face charges.

 

Tassanee is the witness who testified that the accident had been caused by a man.

 

Police in Nakhon Phanom province will summon the suspects and press charges. If convicted of perjury, they could face up to five years in jail. 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30332101

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-11-21

Strange case?

How about a scientific test to prove Sap's car had been involved in an accident? Too difficult, it had been sold - a year before the incident.

This is bizarre!  it looked like she was completely innocent then embellishes it all which might lead to disaster and take focus away from her innocence. 

i don't see how a  Lie detector test machine  would ever work in Thailand

it would just self destruct,  soon as it was plugged in  

Edited November 20, 20178 yr by stanleycoin

They should have asked my granny to supervise the tests.....never worked with her when I lied for bunking school here and there !

Edited November 20, 20178 yr by observer90210

i don't see how a  Lie detector test machine  would ever work in Thailand
it would just self destruct,  soon as it was plugged in  [emoji2]

I believe that the machine used is based on the GT2000 IED detector, running a programme which they obtained from one of those chaps who hangs around the entrance to Pantip Plaza.
They are jolly useful for providing conclusive evidence that people are attempting to show up police incompetence - sorry, of course I mean pervert the course of justice...

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Could it be possible that the lie detector lied?

I remember the police talking on TV about a gang prepared to find scapegoats when this case first surfaced in the media 2 years ago or more. But the strange thing is the pick-up she was allegedly driving had no marks on it to suggest an accident.

Please note that the lie detector test was carried out by those helping her seek a new trial, and it seems the result is accurate.

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

I remember the police talking on TV about a gang prepared to find scapegoats when this case first surfaced in the media 2 years ago or more. But the strange thing is the pick-up she was allegedly driving had no marks on it to suggest an accident.

IIRC she allegedly knocked a 75yo woman off her push bike, causing her death. A tap would be sufficient in mst scenarios.

4 hours ago, webfact said:

'"But now that the Supreme Court has already made its decision. We have to respect that,” Dusadee said.'

Well, the Supreme Court could never be accused of incompetence, could it?

 

As for lie detectors, they're hardly foolproof - most politicians would probably pass. 

 

 

Edited November 21, 20178 yr by Jonmarleesco

4 hours ago, Jonmarleesco said:

Well, the Supreme Court could never be accused of incompetence, could it?

 

As for lie detectors, they're hardly foolproof - most politicians would probably pass. 

 

 

they do they don't start to raise a sweat when lying

Polygraphs are not foolproof. For this reason they are seldom admissible in courts in the US. More often they are used to turn multiple suspects against each other. "The results of your lie detector test can go either way, we suggest you help us and we will help you" the typical result of a polygraph. 

 

They never say so and so is lying, they say so and so shows patterns of deception on certain questions. 

8 hours ago, stanleycoin said:

i don't see how a  Lie detector test machine  would ever work in Thailand

it would just self destruct,  soon as it was plugged in  

Lie detector made in Thailand.

All Thai lie... Never say the truth. 

 

Just like the bomb detectors. Same, same but different. 

9 hours ago, JAG said:

I believe that the machine used is based on the GT2000 IED detector, running a programme which they obtained from one of those chaps who hangs around the entrance to Pantip Plaza.
They are jolly useful for providing conclusive evidence that people are attempting to show up police incompetence - sorry, of course I mean pervert the course of justice...

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The  can provide any service you need - Like maybe changing the dates on University Security Tapes for the HISO student suspect in the Koh Tao murders??    

Edited November 21, 20178 yr by TunnelRat69