Frenchman with no money and Thai wife in apparent suicide pact in Uthai Thani

[Kadilo]

I also work as a part time monk if you need any moral or social guidance?

The way some Monks behave over here I wouldn't be surprised at all.

 

 

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[KhonkaenExpat]

It’s sad, that someone could get that desperate, I wonder, did he not have any friends to help him?

If he did, I hope the fleas of a thousand camels crawl up there butts.    

[AlexRich]

Very strange and sad case. 

[Berkshire]

3 hours ago, Russell17au said:

I do not know this couple but to all you experts who know nothing about this couples lives should bow your head in shame because it only shows how arrogant and judgemental people are. Unless you have walked in their footsteps and lived their lives with them then you know nothing about what has happened. All anyone should say about this is that something has gone wrong to cause 2 loving people to take their own lives together. That does show the love that they had for each other. RIP

What a bizarre rant.  And your comment that "2 loving people to take their own lives together. That does show the love that they had for each other"....are you nuts?  Is that how people who love each other show it?  This is not a Romeo and Juliet situation, far from it.  Thank God normal people who love each other don't think as you do.

[silent]

10 hours ago, Get Real said:

Ok, might be but seems far fetched. Over 40 years old, you would think that a married person in another country would like to have more control over the finances. Just a thought.

Um, considering the ages, no apparent cult involvement and the only drugs involved being the kind of legal mind altering ones people that aren't completely normal take, why do allegedly saner people equate their personal values. Just a thought.

[Hong Bong Dynasty]

meh. if they want out of this world, so be it.  as far as we know, they had no kids which is the best case scenario if you opt to kill yourself.

her Thai family are the ones that are really suffering. 26 years old, what a shame.

[cyberfarang]

Reading posts from some of the long and suffering on here, is enough to drive anyone to suicide.

[burgdawg]

Daddy...<deleted> happened? How did your son remain a baby well past the age of 40?

What a lifetime of playing "woe is me...."

 

Darwin Award principle in action...weed the herd.

[garryjohns]

4 hours ago, cyberfarang said:

I really cannot figure out what is wrong with people these days.

 

I`ve been through hard times, been right down in the dumps, divorced, out of work, destitute, the lot. But I used to face these problems logically and then slowly got myself out of the rut. Never, ever in my whole life have I contemplated suicide, especially that I am in good health. But these days it seems many people are unable to cope with the challenges of life, if the going gets tough, then easier to end their lives. They treat life as if it`s cheap.

 

The newspapers are full of stories of young people, even kids that end their lives for what seems the most trivial of reasons. Is it because young people are under more pressure today in this highly competitive world? Because I sure don`t understand it.

• Well, luckily for you and many others who have the same normal, but often taken for granted, ability to "soldier on" through lifes challenges , but throw in major, AKA clinical depression and everything changes totally .;
• .Mental illness esp major depression:When someone hates every second of their existence, when they consider themselves a burden to their friends and family, when they consider themselves irreparably broken and beyond any chance to become mentally well again, suicide becomes a logical choice, and one which you believe is a choice which is best for everybody involved, including your partner, children, and any other loved ones or even dependents you leave behind. It is NOT a selfish act, it is the result of disordered and desperate thinking, that's all.
  When someone is in extreme distress and is not in their "right mind" they don't make well thought out and logical decisions. They're not making choices which they think are better for themselves, but rather are usually completely disregarding themselves. They consider themselves bothersome, a burden, and a source of stress for the people that love them, so if anything, in that moment, suicide feels selfless, like an unavoidable necessity; the right and only possible course of action.
  If you won't spare the time to consider that, can't conjure up the humility to understand how a person feels in such a dark moment, and/or you lack the empathy to comprehend how people in different mental states think, then refrain from commenting on subjects which require empathy, humility, and effort. 

Edited November 24, 2017 by garryjohns

[balo]

They were both mentally ill , the girl been seeking treatment for many years.   Thailand is not the country to live in when you're depressed. The Frenchman should have returned to France.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

[pistachios]

3 hours ago, Jeremy50 said:

Poor girl took a wrong turn aged 18, and met this guy, undoubtably in love, but could just as well have been with another guy, and still be alive. Did he try to dissuade her from taking the easy way out? Or was he consoled that he wouldn't have to die alone? He could have hitched up his braces, and gone out to find work, there are plenty of schools looking for French teachers in Thailand. Asking for money from mum and dad after the age of 25, is really rather pathetic. Was there nothing the girl could have done to make money? Hundreds of hard workers pushing noodle carts through towns everyday, many of whom are supporting families.

Plenty of schools? How about zero, or possibly one in the whole country?

[cyberfarang]

23 minutes ago, balo said:

They were both mentally ill , the girl been seeking treatment for many years.   Thailand is not the country to live in when you're depressed. The Frenchman should have returned to France.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

And taken his wife to France with him, but he had no money.

[baboon]

I am not a believer in the supernatural, but in another way I do hope there is and that this couple will find happiness in their rest. Many to most of us know the blackness of despair, sleepless nights, phantoms of our pasts, fear of what the future will hold...

 

And as for those sneering, it WILL be you one day. You are just a diagnosis away just like the rest of us to a fate where your money and correct life choices will not save you. It might be 30 years from now, it might be next week, but your day will arrive. When it does, you too will hope for at least a little human kindness, so extend that kindness to others.

[SoulWater]

I am moving away from my previous understanding posts the information I am getting from the posts is the guy had minimal psychological issues and the lady had more - this guy had travelled several countries and was sponging from his dad - daddy stopped sending him money so he pusauded his mentally ill girlfriend to kill herself because he got <deleted> off with his own situation

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[Kadilo]

6 minutes ago, SoulWater said:

I am moving away from my previous understanding posts the information I am getting from the posts

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Which posts are these then?

[candide]

I will probably shock some of you, but I have no complacency for people who draw someone else to sink with them. 

The guy wanted to end his life, that's his decision and I respect it. But he should have taken into account that his girlfriend was still young and still had much to enjoy from life. He should have gone discreetly and leave her start a new life. I call it being selfish!

Edited November 24, 2017 by candide

[max2u]

This has been one of the more painful of threads to read through.

 

The  condescending, presumptuous, judgmental spew, ejected by two-legged swine with a keyboard, is quite nauseating. These specimens have to date had lives of being themselves; they may yet make change, or may not.

 

The plight of the couple themselves is quite sad; the only good being, they suffer no more.

 

The understanding and sympathies expressed by many are quite fine. If  humanity was robustly contagious  among humans, the couples' lives may never have come to such end.

 

 

 

Edited November 24, 2017 by max2u

[metisdead]

Inflammatory posts and replies have been removed. 

[Get Real]

9 hours ago, silent said:

Um, considering the ages, no apparent cult involvement and the only drugs involved being the kind of legal mind altering ones people that aren't completely normal take, why do allegedly saner people equate their personal values. Just a thought.

And you just said??? Was it really a thought. Anyway it didn´t come out like a thoughtful one. 

[Russell17au]

3 hours ago, candide said:

I will probably shock some of you, but I have no complacency for people who draw someone else to sink with them. 

The guy wanted to end his life, that's his decision and I respect it. But he should have taken into account that his girlfriend was still young and still had much to enjoy from life. He should have gone discreetly and leave her start a new life. I call it being selfish!

Why do you think you will shock anybody. How do you reach the conclusion that the man was the instigator of this, were you there and witnessed what was said and done. There are many on here that are doing the same as you are and that is pointing the finger at the man without knowing the full facts. You maybe right but I would say you are only guessing because you do no know. It is a pity people cannot stop pointing the finger at other people when they do not know the full facts because that causes more hurt for those that are left behind. Remember that the wife had an appointment with the doctor, maybe she could not handle it anymore, maybe his father was with holding money that was rightfully his, maybe he had spent all his money on treatment for her condition. Maybe he wanted to take her back to France for better treatment and his father refused to help. This is all assumption because nobody knows the facts so please stop pointing the finger and cause more grief to those that are left behind

Edited November 25, 2017 by Russell17au
left something out

[csabo]

22 hours ago, binjalin said:

May they both now find peace.

Or what? Do you think the Burmese girls who have to clean up that rancid pile of sludge are at peace? Not only did this piece of crap have more than 40 years to figure life out he also chose to take someone with him. Why would you apologize for that? Do think her family wants your apology?  He basically murdered her.   I would have given him more credit jumping into a pit of crocodiles. If you want to off yourself at least do it efficiently. 

[Artisi]

30 minutes ago, csabo said:

Or what? Do you think the Burmese girls who have to clean up that rancid pile of sludge are at peace? Not only did this piece of crap have more than 40 years to figure life out he also chose to take someone with him. Why would you apologize for that? Do think her family wants your apology?  He basically murdered her.   I would have given him more credit jumping into a pit of crocodiles. If you want to off yourself at least do it efficiently. 

He murdered her, so you were privi. to the lead up to this tragic event. I'm sure that others besides myself would be interested in the full story. 

[Odysseus123]

3 hours ago, max2u said:

This has been one of the more painful of threads to read through.

 

The  condescending, presumptuous, judgmental spew, ejected by two-legged swine with a keyboard, is quite nauseating. These specimens have to date had lives of being themselves; they may yet make change, or may not.

 

The plight of the couple themselves is quite sad; the only good being, they suffer no more.

 

The understanding and sympathies expressed by many are quite fine. If  humanity was robustly contagious  among humans, the couples' lives may never have come to such end.

 

 

 

Very well said.

 

In the immortal words of John Donne;

 

"No man is an island

Entire of itself

Every man is a piece of the continent

A part of the main.....

 

..Any man's death diminishes me

Because I am involved in mankind

Therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls

It toll for thee."

 

Meditation 17.

1624.

[silent]

2 hours ago, Get Real said:

And you just said??? Was it really a thought. Anyway it didn´t come out like a thoughtful one. 

Unfortunately I've been threatened with banishment whenever I've had to explain in clearer terms that their comment made me think of other idiots like those who rarely look beyond a mirror enough to know that just because someone doesn't look as mentally challenged doesn't mean they aren't. 

 

Otherwise I'd be happy to oblige and explain the thought deeper without having to use pictures as an aid, too .  

[micmichd]

On 24/11/2017 at 9:29 AM, jenny2017 said:

 

     Not if you are going the legal way without lies. Certain European countries do not have enough money to help their own folks. 

 

    A German guy in the same situation committed suicide in Germany after he figured out that he'd not make it back to his family. He had been here for 15 years. 

 

  I really understand the guy's problems and believe that something simi9lar could happen to quite a lot. 

You're right. 

The sad fact that you get incarcerated and eventually locked up in German mental hospitals if you're declared mentally sick and you tell them you want to go away. They call it "runaway syndrome" ("Weglauftendenzen") in German. The only way to get out is to have a good income which this guy apparently didn't have. These are German laws based on ICD-10 (Europe's DSM)

So this French guy was apparently fully aware of his situation. Which means he was not mentally sick at all. He was probably jobless because there are simply not enough jobs in Europe anymore.

In Germany (the country with the perfect nanny state) more and more people become childish now.

[binjalin]

5 hours ago, csabo said:

Or what? Do you think the Burmese girls who have to clean up that rancid pile of sludge are at peace? Not only did this piece of crap have more than 40 years to figure life out he also chose to take someone with him. Why would you apologize for that? Do think her family wants your apology?  He basically murdered her.   I would have given him more credit jumping into a pit of crocodiles. If you want to off yourself at least do it efficiently. 

1/ he did not 'choose' to take her with him - she chose to go with him

2/ he 'murdered' her? 

3/ jumping into a pit of crocodiles is not 'more efficient' but I'd humbly suggest you try it as with your sense of compassion the world would be a better off place without you

[madusa]

On 11/24/2017 at 1:03 PM, giddyup said:

Like to hear from all those negative members who say as soon as the money is gone so is the Thai wife/GF. As sad as it is his wife stuck with him to the bitter end, and there was a 20 year age difference.

Do you know this thing called Fate? This lady was born to be married to this French guy and love him and willing to die with him. Not such thing called Freewill, it's Fate. Freewill is just imagination run wild. This is the work of God and his dirty work. He creates suffering everywhere so he could enjoy watching it. God is quite sadistic, that is why he let his son Jesus nailed to the tree by the Zionist Jews who bribed the Romans to do it. Just like today the Zionists in Isreal who ruled American by proxy. This is not jew bashing, many jews are good people except the Zionist ones.

[Kieran00001]

6 minutes ago, madusa said:

Do you know this thing called Fate? This lady was born to be married to this French guy and love him and willing to die with him. Not such thing called Freewill, it's Fate. Freewill is just imagination run wild. This is the work of God and his dirty work. He creates suffering everywhere so he could enjoy watching it. God is quite sadistic, that is why he let his son Jesus nailed to the tree by the Zionist Jews who bribed the Romans to do it. Just like today the Zionists in Isreal who ruled American by proxy. This is not jew bashing, many jews are good people except the Zionist ones.

 

If you're going to believe in fairytales at least read them first.

[nausea]

A lot of you out there will die in a lot worse way; beware hubris, it will come back to bite you.

[loll]

46 years old,yet so dependant on Daddy that he would commit suicide because Dad did not send money???? How easily,and meaninglessly,  human life gets wasted!!The wife is,or rather was,quite pretty,and only 26.RIP,both of you.And,parents,please stop spoiling your children before it is too late.