December 9, 20178 yr PM urges Thais to help beat corruption By The Sunday Nation Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha presided over the opening ceremony of an event marking International Anti-Corruption Day, vowing to promote an anti-corruption culture. RANKING IN GLOBAL POLL SHOWS COUNTRY HAS NOT PROGRESSED IN TACKLING GRAFT PRIME MINISTER General Prayut Chan-o-cha has pledged to improve Thailand’s Corruption Perception Index (CPI) ranking while urging Thais to have zero-tolerance for graft. In the latest 2016 CPI ranking published by Transparency International, the country is ranked in 101st position out of 176 countries worldwide, with a score of less than 50 per cent. Speaking at yesterday’s event to mark International Anti-Corruption Day at Bangkok’s Impact Muang Thong Thani convention centre, Prayut said he has no tolerance for corruption and urged anyone who has information about those abusing his name to report directly to the PM’s Office. After presenting awards to state agencies with outstanding anti-corruption and transparency records, Prayut said people should join forces to get the country out of the vicious corruption cycle by having zero tolerance on graft so that the country can do better on the CPI ranking of Transparency International. Thailand was ranked in the same place as the Philippines, while Indonesia and some other Asean countries did better in 2016 in terms of corruption perception by the international community, which includes expert assessments and opinion surveys. Regarding the government’s role, Prayut said his administration has fully cooperated with the National Anti-Corruption Commission to fight graft along with non-government organisations, but the challenges are tough because corruption is deep-rooted in Thai society. As a result, the government has been promoting new values to have no tolerance on graft, which includes the buying and selling of key government office positions, lack of transparency in state procurement and exploitation of legal loopholes for financial and other benefits, among other methods. Lt-General Sansern Kaewkam-nerd, the chief government spokesman, said social media had circulated inaccurate information about Thailand’s CPI ranking since the 2017 rankings have not yet been announced. Therefore, the country remains ranked at 101st of the 176 countries covered by Transparency International. He said more efforts to combat corruption should lead to a better position in the 2017 rankings, which are due to be announced in January. Meanwhile, the latest Bangkok Poll shows efforts to combat the corruption that remains rampant among state-agency officials have not been effective, largely because penalties are not severe enough, especially with regard to bidding collusion for state procurement contracts. Creating awareness The December 4-7 survey of 1,205 respondents shows that government officials are mostly perceived to lack transparency, followed by elected politicians. Respondents also shared the opinion that court verdicts and the recent punishment of politicians and state officials involved in the previous government’s rice-pledging scheme were severe and served as a lesson for others not repeat those corrupt practices which resulted in massive financial damage to taxpayers. Prayut said the government has focussed on amending laws to increase effectiveness in combatting corruption while creating more public awareness of the negative consequences of graft on the public well-being. He said the patronage system in Thailand is deep-seated so, as prime minister, he is very careful in dealing with people who may try to give him financial and other benefits in return for favours. As a result, Prayut said he never welcomes people who may try to do so at his residence. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30333581 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-12-10
December 9, 20178 yr If you want to fight corruption, you need to govern based on the rule of law (no coups or article 44), promote transparency in all government procurement (including the military) and protect and enhance the freedom of the press to report on corrupt activities. It ain't rocket science, but Thailand lags badly on all three. In countries, such as Thailand, where there is deep-rooted corruption there is often a need for a focused corruption-fighting organization. Some people feel that the NACC is fulfilling this function, but given its record of selective persecution, lack of transparency, lack of accountability and lack of neutrality, it has failed. Fire all the NACC commissioners and replace them with individuals selected through a public process. And watch them, every day, to see if they are fulfilling their mandate.
December 9, 20178 yr The nayers might wanna think twice before posting on this one. Welcome to Thailand .... what a beautiful Sunday ... !
December 9, 20178 yr 48 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Prayut said his administration has fully cooperated with the National Anti-Corruption Commission to fight graft Apart from a few select cases, I don't believe this to be true in any sense whatsoever. Prayut has mastered the art of spin as effectively as the odious Thaksin, although not as sophisticated, but anyone with half a brain can shoot holes in virtually everything he says about fighting corruption. To repeat what millions of others have said billions of times, clean up your own house first, Prayut.
December 9, 20178 yr Define corruption first. Thai and western definition seem different therefore I shall not offer a possible solution.
December 9, 20178 yr 32 minutes ago, steven100 said: The nayers might wanna think twice before posting on this one. Welcome to Thailand .... what a beautiful Sunday ... ! Am biting. Based on some of your other posts i guess this isn't sarcasm. But anyways the second he, his brother and cronies are carted off to jail and ALL their ill gotten gains are listed for public auction I will believe that corruption tackling is real here Just for one Steven, how do you suggest Prayuth has amassed wealth in the tens of millions of USD?
December 9, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: PM urges Thais to help beat corruption The blind leading the blind ?
December 10, 20178 yr It is said that morality can not be legislated, but behavior can be regulated... Good luck to the people that it's mentality, custom and mindset are all rooted in seeking to circumvent the system with bribes....
December 10, 20178 yr just stop using our childrens education to further an agenda...everything else is yours (and always has been) for the taking..SHAMLESS THAIS...
December 10, 20178 yr After presenting awards to state agencies with outstanding anti-corruption and transparency records, Prayut said....Shortest. Award. Ceremony. Ever.Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
December 10, 20178 yr 2 hours ago, rooster59 said: The December 4-7 survey of 1,205 respondents shows that government officials are mostly perceived to lack transparency, followed by elected politicians. So presumably the bunch of unelected politicians running the country now are as pure as the driven snow. Even the ones who wear the most expensive watches and flashy jewellery and have their snouts buried deeply in the trough of the public purse. What Prayut failed to mention was that Thailand is ranked as having the 7th highest "black" economy in the world. Edited December 10, 20178 yr by Cadbury
December 10, 20178 yr 4 hours ago, rooster59 said: . . . Prayut said people should join forces to get the country out of the vicious corruption cycle . . . Yeh, the people would be more than happy to do that. Maybe if the selfish, self-righteous, self-serving and self-centred cretin was to bend over - just in the gateway to Government House would be good - then every man in the street could have a go at beating corruption . . . sticks would be provided! Does he not get it? . . . he and his dodgy bling brethren ARE CORRUPTION.
December 10, 20178 yr Pot. Kettle. Black. Nuff said Sent from my SM-G950W using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
December 10, 20178 yr Is this about dealing with corruption or about image (face) in the international community.
December 10, 20178 yr 2 hours ago, stud858 said: Define corruption first. Thai and western definition seem different therefore I shall not offer a possible solution. There is no solution despite Prayut's contrivance to pretend there is. The millions of beneficiaries of corruption, including politicians old and new, will ensure that it will continue on as it has in the past. Any substantial reduction of corruption would have a serious impact on the economy and the incomes of the already wealthy. Nothing is going to change........greed rules!
December 10, 20178 yr 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: urged anyone who has information about those abusing his name pitifully arrogant
December 10, 20178 yr 3 hours ago, steven100 said: The nayers might wanna think twice before posting on this one. Welcome to Thailand .... what a beautiful Sunday ... ! No need to think twice on this one Steven. Most know it is just another promise to be broken and added to the already long list of Prayut broken promises. The word "ZERO' on the stupid T-shirts describes the change Prayut will make on corruption.
December 10, 20178 yr 57 minutes ago, Cadbury said: There is no solution despite Prayut's contrivance to pretend there is. The millions of beneficiaries of corruption, including politicians old and new, will ensure that it will continue on as it has in the past. Any substantial reduction of corruption would have a serious impact on the economy and the incomes of the already wealthy. Nothing is going to change........greed rules What you and I see as corruption is not corruption in the eyes of others. It's normal behavior. In fact our own systems use a method of donation and tax rules to make immoral behavior doable. Cadbury. Now I have to eat chocolate.
December 10, 20178 yr 56 minutes ago, Cadbury said: No need to think twice on this one Steven. Most know it is just another promise to be broken and added to the already long list of Prayut broken promises. The word "ZERO' on the stupid T-shirts describes the change Prayut will make on corruption. Funny, the words on the next line must have been printed in white: 'on free speech'
December 10, 20178 yr Prawit will soon have Thailand improve its position once he's sold his watch and diamonds.
December 10, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, stud858 said: What you and I see as corruption is not corruption in the eyes of others. It's normal behavior. In fact our own systems use a method of donation and tax rules to make immoral behavior doable. Cadbury. Now I have to eat chocolate. Then what is the "thing" that they define as corruption, the thing that they claim to want zero tolerance of? And what is the "normal behaviour" about which no one should trouble themselves? Answer: they are the same things. This, as with so much else they say and do, is no more than"front", top gloss and flimflam. Edited December 10, 20178 yr by Enoon
December 10, 20178 yr 5 hours ago, steven100 said: The nayers might wanna think twice before posting on this one. Welcome to Thailand .... what a beautiful Sunday ... ! Too much junta Kool-Aide Steven ? Are you laughing because of the futility of it all ? What can we say that has not already been in the media: unexplained expensive watches on plump wrists, a disappearing placarded containing Thai history ? At least before, your posts use to contain an understandable argument and not boring threats of those exercising free speech.
December 10, 20178 yr 5 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: If you want to fight corruption, you need to govern based on the rule of law (no coups or article 44), promote transparency in all government procurement (including the military) and protect and enhance the freedom of the press to report on corrupt activities. It ain't rocket science, but Thailand lags badly on all three. In countries, such as Thailand, where there is deep-rooted corruption there is often a need for a focused corruption-fighting organization. Some people feel that the NACC is fulfilling this function, but given its record of selective persecution, lack of transparency, lack of accountability and lack of neutrality, it has failed. Fire all the NACC commissioners and replace them with individuals selected through a public process. And watch them, every day, to see if they are fulfilling their mandate. I believe Thailand would collapse completely if corruption was eliminated. Is there an agency in LOS that operates honestly? I mean, how will business owners get by without paying tea money and bribes to ministers, judges, and other assorted criminal elements? That would put way too many businesses out of operation and the resulting economic collapse would be disastrous... Better to keep bribes and corruption because then everyone already knows how the government has been working for decades....
December 10, 20178 yr 3 hours ago, Cadbury said: There is no solution despite Prayut's contrivance to pretend there is. The millions of beneficiaries of corruption, including politicians old and new, will ensure that it will continue on as it has in the past. Any substantial reduction of corruption would have a serious impact on the economy and the incomes of the already wealthy. Nothing is going to change........greed rules! It does indeed. By design, not by accident. The OP suggested a definition for corruption. I have one which would be a good starting point. If you are taking money for doing a job, then do the job. Do not accept money not to do it, do not accept favours from anyone, do not accept patronage from anyone. If anyone acts against this simple concept, fire them. No transfers, no inactive posts, no committees, no demotions, fire them ands seize their pension entitlements for the state. Fire them for corruption and make it public. That way, they'll never work again. For any manager hiring someone previously fired for corruption, assume corruption and fire them as well. Same penalties.Sooner or later, people will learn that corruption is not profitable, whereas today it most definitely is - it's probably the biggest and most pervasive dysfunction that Thailand has, and it starts at the top, so make Prayuth and Prawit and their coterie, the first examples. And where does the example of corruption come from? Look up. And fire him too if he will not change because that means he values personal wealth above the future of the Thai people. It's time to kill all dinosaurs in Thailand, Nothing else will save it from the oblivion which is on the horizon now. . Edited December 10, 20178 yr by Sid Celery
December 10, 20178 yr 47 minutes ago, Bigfarang1948 said: I believe Thailand would collapse completely if corruption was eliminated. Is there an agency in LOS that operates honestly? I mean, how will business owners get by without paying tea money and bribes to ministers, judges, and other assorted criminal elements? That would put way too many businesses out of operation and the resulting economic collapse would be disastrous... Better to keep bribes and corruption because then everyone already knows how the government has been working for decades.... BS based on fear and 'the devil you know being better than the devil you don't know'. My opinion.
December 10, 20178 yr Id post that star trek new generation double face palm meme but the clickbaittroll has me running scared (s1hunge)....oh and anyone notice how that acc now participates in non love the junta threads with nothing posts....not sure why, nor do i care..have a nice day real people..?
December 10, 20178 yr Mate, how did you get the xx millions of USD? "I hard work and eat rice all life..."
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