How to renew O-A visa?

[Lim Yuan Hai]

Hi,

Can someone kindly advise:

    how can I renew my O-A visa and what are the requirements? 
    how many days in advance should I renew?
    how long will it take to process it?
    how much I have to pay for it?

Thank you and Have a nice day.
Lim
  

[glegolo]

Forget it, you can not renew a VISA. If it is gone, it is gone, and you have to go back to your homecountry and buy a new one. If it is still valid, you can apply for an extension of stay valid a year here in Thailand....

 

glegolo

[lopburi3]

An o-a visa is only available from a Thai Consulate in foreign country you live.

The multi entry O-A visa allows a one year stay on any entry so an exit/return just before it expires gets a new one year stay.

 

Most people then would extend stay using TM7 yearly.  For retirement you must show 65k per month income per Embassy letter or 800k in local bank account 2 months (3 months after first time) with letter from bank of account balance and copy of passbook or combination to meet 800k per year.  Copies of passport/original O visa/entry/extensions would be required and map ot home and probably TM30 or homeowner that foreigner living there.

 

Normally extend stay about 30 days prior to end of current stay (no time lost).

Cost is 1.900 baht

Normally done same day or next day pickup at some locations

[ubonjoe]

You can only apply for a new OA visa at an embassy or official consulate in your home country. The requirements and the fee would be the same as the one you have now.

Or are you asking about applying for a one year extension of stay based upon retirement at immigration here? You could apply for the extension during the last 30 days of the one year permit to stay you have now.

 

[Lite Beer]

As said, you need to apply in your own country.

[Pib]

OP,

   As you've seen in the replies so far there is a difference between "Renewal of a Visa" and an "Extension of Stay."

[Lim Yuan Hai]

Thank you, you guys for the advises given.
Can you kindly advise in details that what TM7 and TM30 are for?

[ubonjoe]

9 minutes ago, Lim Yuan Hai said:

Thank you, you guys for the advises given.
Can you kindly advise in details that what TM7 and TM30 are for?

The TM7 form is for the extension of stay application.

A TM30 form is for the owner/possessor of the place where are living to report your pretense.

Has your OA visa already expired (enter before date on the visa). If not you can get another one year entry on or before that date,

[BritTim]

12 minutes ago, Lim Yuan Hai said:

Thank you, you guys for the advises given.
Can you kindly advise in details that what TM7 and TM30 are for?

The TM30 is "notification of alien staying at a property". It has nothing to do with applying for a visa, or (directly) an extension of your permission to stay in Thailand.

 

The TM7 form is the standard form used to apply for an extension of your permission to stay in Thailand. When applying for an extension on the basis of retirement, the basic requirements are the financial ones already explained above.

[Lim Yuan Hai]

20 minutes ago, BritTim said:

The TM30 is "notification of alien staying at a property". It has nothing to do with applying for a visa, or (directly) an extension of your permission to stay in Thailand.

 

The TM7 form is the standard form used to apply for an extension of your permission to stay in Thailand. When applying for an extension on the basis of retirement, the basic requirements are the financial ones already explained above.

Thank you, BritTim for your advise.
Am I right to say that I only need TM7 and Bank Fixed deposit together with their letter stating 800K in my bank account for 2 months (I already put 3 months). By the way, how long is validity for a bank letter?
Is TM30 not needed for my one year extension?
How about tangency agreement?   

[BritTim]

When applying for the extension at many immigration offices, it is important that the TM30 notification has been done first. Depending on your living circumstances, and local immigration policy, you may be considered the "chief possessor" of the property and able to do the TM30 notification yourself. You might need some or all of rental agreement, copy of owner's id and proof that the owner really is the owner of the property.

 

For the TM7, the bank fixed deposit should be fine (as long as the money is available at short notice) together with the bank letter. The letter needs to be very recent (at some offices, even the same day). You must be able to show statements or bank book to prove that the balance has been over 800k for the entire seasoning period. The tenancy agreement will probably not be needed, but you may need to prove the TM30 notification has been done.

[steve187]

3 hours ago, glegolo said:

Forget it, you can not renew a VISA. If it is gone, it is gone, and you have to go back to your homecountry and buy a new one. If it is still valid, you can apply for an extension of stay valid a year here in Thailand....

 

glegolo

incorrect, what is correct is if the permission to stay is still valid then a 1 year extension of that permission to stay can be applied for at local immigration office within Thailand, if financial conditions are met/

[Lim Yuan Hai]

14 minutes ago, BritTim said:

When applying for the extension at many immigration offices, it is important that the TM30 notification has been done first. Depending on your living circumstances, and local immigration policy, you may be considered the "chief possessor" of the property and able to do the TM30 notification yourself. You might need some or all of rental agreement, copy of owner's id and proof that the owner really is the owner of the property.

 

For the TM7, the bank fixed deposit should be fine (as long as the money is available at short notice) together with the bank letter. The letter needs to be very recent (at some offices, even the same day). You must be able to show statements or bank book to prove that the balance has been over 800k for the entire seasoning period. The tenancy agreement will probably not be needed, but you may need to prove the TM30 notification has been done.

I am very confused with your TM30 notification's explanation.
Is it the owner duty for TM30 notification? What's got to do with tenant? How if owner didn't do it?
Do you mean I have to take the copy of owner's ID and proof to immigration office? However, I didn't see such requirements at TM7 form?
I only knew that I have to do 90 days reporting which I have done so.  
 

[lopburi3]

Any residence allowing foreigners to live are required to notify immigration.  This is well known among hotels but private owners may not know this rule.  Immigration may want proof that your residence has been properly reported prior to processing TM7 for one year extension of stay and if it has not been may require you arrange to have it done.  The extension of stay is processed by the office assigned to the area you live so this is important for them to know.

[Lim Yuan Hai]

6 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Any residence allowing foreigners to live are required to notify immigration.  This is well known among hotels but private owners may not know this rule.  Immigration may want proof that your residence has been properly reported prior to processing TM7 for one year extension of stay and if it has not been may require you arrange to have it done.  The extension of stay is processed by the office assigned to the area you live so this is important for them to know.

Wah, very confusing?
So, what should I do?
What do you mean by "the office assigned to the area I live? Which office as I lived in the On Nut area?

[BritTim]

19 minutes ago, Lim Yuan Hai said:

I am very confused with your TM30 notification's explanation.
Is it the owner duty for TM30 notification? What's got to do with tenant? How if owner didn't do it?

I absolutely understand your confusion. Even immigration does not have a consistent understanding. The rule about who must do the TM30 states that it must be done by the "house master". Some immigration offices do, indeed, rule that this must be specifically the owner. This can be a major problem if the owner resides abroad (not uncommon) or the owner does not want to go to the trouble, and immigration will not give you an extension until it has been done. Very often, the "chief possessor" of the property (including someone paying the rent) is identified as someone who can submit the notification. Usually, although a little bit of a hassle, being allowed to do it yourself is preferable, because you at least have control over the process.

[BritTim]

9 minutes ago, Lim Yuan Hai said:

Which office as I lived in the On Nut area?

You are assigned to Bangkok immigration (Chaeng Wattana). As far as TM30 notification is concerned, this is very good news. You can ignore the TM30 requirements, as Bangkok only enforces them for hotels.

[glegolo]

3 hours ago, glegolo said:

Forget it, you can not renew a VISA. If it is gone, it is gone, and you have to go back to your homecountry and buy a new one. If it is still valid, you can apply for an extension of stay valid a year here in Thailand....

 

glegolo

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53 minutes ago, steve187 said:

incorrect, what is correct is if the permission to stay is still valid then a 1 year extension of that permission to stay can be applied for at local immigration office within Thailand, if financial conditions are met/

I cant really see what you are suggesting here what regards my posting????? Are you saying that the VISA itself is being extended or what???

 

My wording is 100% correct.... If the VISA is gone, it is gone and he have to go back home and buy a new O-A VISA... fullstop....

 

if it is NOT gone than the OP can get an extended stay for another year, by either go out of the country and get another year, or get an extension within Thailand...

 

glegolo

[Lim Yuan Hai]

8 minutes ago, BritTim said:

You are assigned to Bangkok immigration (Chaeng Wattana). As far as TM30 notification is concerned, this is very good news. You can ignore the TM30 requirements, as Bangkok only enforces them for hotels.

Thank you. You haven't answer one of my question "Do you mean I have to take the copy of owner's ID and proof of the ownership to the immigration office?"
Can you kindly advise?

[BritTim]

6 minutes ago, glegolo said:

My wording is 100% correct.... If the VISA is gone, it is gone and he have to go back home and buy a new O-A VISA... fullstop....

Your wording is at best confusing. It is conflating two different things: the visa and the permission to stay.

If you have an unexpired multiple entry visa (i.e. it is prior to the enter before date on the visa) you can leave and re-enter the country to get a fresh permission to stay.

If you are currently in Thailand on a non immigrant entry, regardless of whether you have an unexpired visa, you can (towards the end of your permission to stay) apply for an extension of your permission to stay based on retirement.

[BritTim]

2 minutes ago, Lim Yuan Hai said:

Thank you. You haven't answer one of my question "Do you mean I have to take the copy of owner's ID and proof of the ownership to the immigration office?"
Can you kindly advise?

They may not ask for them, but I would take a copy of the owner's id plus your tenancy agreement just in case.

[glegolo]

 14 minutes ago, glegolo said:

My wording is 100% correct.... If the VISA is gone, it is gone and he have to go back home and buy a new O-A VISA... fullstop....

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4 minutes ago, BritTim said:

Your wording is at best confusing. It is conflating two different things: the visa and the permission to stay.

You must be joking really????? I dont care what you say, if the VISA is gone, it is gone fullstop.... Rest is ¤#%%¤....

 

glegolo

 

[Lim Yuan Hai]

2 minutes ago, BritTim said:

They may not ask for them, but I would take a copy of the owner's id plus your tenancy agreement just in case.

Thank you for your advise.

[BritTim]

2 minutes ago, glegolo said:

You must be joking really????? I dont care what you say, if the VISA is gone, it is gone fullstop...

I am not joking. I assume by "visa" you mean the original sticker received at an embassy/consulate outside Thailand, and by "gone" you mean it has expired (i.e. beyond the visa's expiry date). This has absolutely no effect on the current permission to stay. This can be extended even if the visa expired months ago.

[Lim Yuan Hai]

Hi,

Can I collect my visa within the same day if I reach Bangkok immigration (Chaeng Wattana) around 1pm (on 28 Dec 2017) to submit my extension of stay application?
How long is validity for a bank letter for Chaeng Wattana (Bangkok) immigration?
Kindly advise.

Thank you,
Merry Christmas and Very Happy New Year.

[BritTim]

1 hour ago, Lim Yuan Hai said:

Can I collect my visa within the same day if I reach Bangkok immigration (Chaeng Wattana) around 1pm (on 28 Dec 2017) to submit my extension of stay application?
How long is validity for a bank letter for Chaeng Wattana (Bangkok) immigration?

Presumably, you are asking about a retirement extension.

 

If all your documentation is in order, you should be able to get it processed the same day if you arrive at 1:00 pm.

 

The bank letter must be dated the same day. At Chaeng Wattana, there are branches of all the major banks nearby where they are used to providing the letter, usually within a few minutes. As always, the banks can be busy during lunchtime though.

[Lim Yuan Hai]

9 minutes ago, BritTim said:

Presumably, you are asking about a retirement extension.

 

If all your documentation is in order, you should be able to get it processed the same day if you arrive at 1:00 pm.

 

The bank letter must be dated the same day. At Chaeng Wattana, there are branches of all the major banks nearby where they are used to providing the letter, usually within a few minutes. As always, the banks can be busy during lunchtime though.

Dear BritTim,

Yes, it is a retirement extension.

 

All the documents I have it are Bank letter, copy of bank book, completed TM7, copy and original of passport and a photo. Is it enough?  
May I know is there Bangkok Bank? If so, where is the location and what time it open?

Thank you,

[BritTim]

8 minutes ago, Lim Yuan Hai said:

May I know is there Bangkok Bank? If so, where is the location and what time it open?

Yes, there is. It opens at 8:30 am, if my memory serves be correctly. I think the following information is broadly accurate: http://www.yellowpages.co.th/en/profile/522130561009001

 

Quote

 

Bangkok Bank Public Ltd The Government Complex Commemorating His Majesty The Kin

Address:	120 Moo 3 The Govt Complex Commemorating His Majesty The Kings Chaengwatthana Khwang Thung Song Hong Khet Laksi Province Bangkok 10210
Tel:	0-2143-8975-8
Fax:	0-2143-8979
Website:	www.bangkokbank.com
Work-Time:	Monday-Friday time 08:30-17:30

 

As I recall, the banks are not too difficult to locate, though the government complex is a bit of a maze. I am sure someone would point you in the right direction if asked.

[lopburi3]

You take escalator down from in front of immigration (across hall) and turn around at ground floor.  Bangkok Bank is in the center portion directly in front of you looking in the direction you started escalator ride down.

[Lim Yuan Hai]

Thank you, BritTim and lopburi3. You guys are so kind.
Have a nice day.