Sugarcaine - Oi - starting process/costs??

[glegolo]

Hi, my wife intends know next season to start to grow sugarcaine on her land. For me it is OK but I would love to have some kind of controll and what to expect with this adventure...

 

Can you plse give me some advise and informatin what regards the planting the costs and the profits to expect from this.

 

Many thanks..

glegolo

[Lamkyong]

how many rai ?   ideally 20 plus   PLUS PLUS 

[ubonjoe]

Not specifically for Isaan so best in the farming forum. Moved 

[glegolo]

Her and mine thoughts were to start with maybe 3 rai, just to see how it works out.... Any input practical and/or economical, is of great value to me.

 

thanks

glegolo

[farmerjo]

The 1st thing to work out will be what variety you want to grow.

To keep it simple you would look for someone selling preferably 1st or 2nd year sugar at about 10 months old.

One rai maybe easier to buy of sugar to turn into setts to plant so then you work out how many rai that 1 rai will plant.

There will be your district Average of what the farmers around you grow yield wise so that is your starting point.

[kickstart]

With the price for cane looking to be low agine this year , ,like last year , and  if you do not have your own equipment  you will have to contract everything out  ,it will be a big investment ,for probably a not a big return , and cane is  harvested  for 3-4 years ,if prices do remain low  you could lose out .

One other  thing can you grow cane on your land , it dose not like sand  land ,if your land is sandy  you will need some form of irrigation, another cost .

Have seen cane grown on sand land around  here ,it does not do well.

[glegolo]

Thank you guys, it seems that I have to drive my wife into a couple of rai with rice. But I rarely win, so it will be a nice surprice so see what comes out of this...

 

But I am happy for your input guys, and will save this info of course..

 

glegolo

[thoongfoned]

firstly how far do you have to transport it to sell? if rice paddy land and the land holds to much water the cane will grow out then fall over after sitting in to much water later in the year.

around us, udon thani. people mainly plant the khon kean strain. if buy per rai to replant, buying say one year old stock would be from 10,000baht plus.... then cutting, loading, hauling.... then of course planting again. or the other way pay the tractor and hopper guys to plant for you, this starts from 3,500 baht per rai all in, they should add some vits when they plant, but....   after planting should get 3/5 years of re growth/harvests before re plant would be needed.the planting here starts in late october.....gives some starting costs ideas. check with the cane people in your area.

the land around the wifes village is not that good, so people generally yeild from 7 ton per rai, max out at around 10 or 11 ton, of course i have seen land that will return 2 or 3 ton also... depend on how much money and time they spend on maintaining crop. 20 or 30km up the road people average 16/17 ton per rai over large amounts of land... the local weigh stations this year are buying per ton between 800 and 900 baht. lastr few years the price per ton has been around the 900 baht.

if you were to only plant a small area and the land and cane is good it would be possible if you spend the time and money to get very high yields per rai, i read some government study years ago that was returning loads, i mean loads of ton per rai, they were talking 90/100 ton per rai, of course if true this would be exceptional and not the norm.  if you could get any where near 20 ton per rai i would say this is very good. if done well and can sell locally cane is a good choice for money returns per rai vs say rice. 

[glegolo]

Oh greatb reply, thanks for all that information much appreciated.

 

glegolo

[Mr Red 2]

On 19/12/2017 at 2:15 PM, thoongfoned said:

firstly how far do you have to transport it to sell? if rice paddy land and the land holds to much water the cane will grow out then fall over after sitting in to much water later in the year.

around us, udon thani. people mainly plant the khon kean strain. if buy per rai to replant, buying say one year old stock would be from 10,000baht plus.... then cutting, loading, hauling.... then of course planting again. or the other way pay the tractor and hopper guys to plant for you, this starts from 3,500 baht per rai all in, they should add some vits when they plant, but....   after planting should get 3/5 years of re growth/harvests before re plant would be needed.the planting here starts in late october.....gives some starting costs ideas. check with the cane people in your area.

the land around the wifes village is not that good, so people generally yeild from 7 ton per rai, max out at around 10 or 11 ton, of course i have seen land that will return 2 or 3 ton also... depend on how much money and time they spend on maintaining crop. 20 or 30km up the road people average 16/17 ton per rai over large amounts of land... the local weigh stations this year are buying per ton between 800 and 900 baht. lastr few years the price per ton has been around the 900 baht.

if you were to only plant a small area and the land and cane is good it would be possible if you spend the time and money to get very high yields per rai, i read some government study years ago that was returning loads, i mean loads of ton per rai, they were talking 90/100 ton per rai, of course if true this would be exceptional and not the norm.  if you could get any where near 20 ton per rai i would say this is very good. if done well and can sell locally cane is a good choice for money returns per rai vs say rice. 

Good info and true to the point 20 tonne a rai is excellent and the cutting loading transportation of the cane ....distance to factory has to be tic.900 baht yesterday at the station.