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PM urged to suspend Prawit under Article 44


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10 hours ago, webfact said:

“We call on Prayut to use Article 44 to temporarily suspend Prawit from his posts as deputy premier and defence minister without pay until the investigation conclusion,”

Article 44 isn't needed. And shouldn't be legitimized as a government mechanism.

 

Prawit is a deputy chief of the NCPO under Prayut as NCPO Chief. Prayut can tell Prawit that he's off the NCPO unless he agrees to temporarily vacate his two government positions.

If Prawit refuses, Prayut can fire Prawit from the NCPO and do a cabinet reshuffle without Article 44 to put Prawit permanently "out to pasture." No more "gravy train." The consequence  of such action would surely to be worth hundreds of watches to Prawit.

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1 hour ago, Srikcir said:

The consequence  of such action would surely to be worth hundreds of watches to Prawit.

The consequence  of such action would surely be a drastic improvement in the Junta's chances of getting a party together and winning at next year's election . . . now, we don't want that, do we? Alive - well just about - and on the Junta/NCPO side, Prawit can only make things better for 'the others'.

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2 hours ago, Srikcir said:

Article 44 isn't needed. And shouldn't be legitimized as a government mechanism.

 

Prawit is a deputy chief of the NCPO under Prayut as NCPO Chief. Prayut can tell Prawit that he's off the NCPO unless he agrees to temporarily vacate his two government positions.

If Prawit refuses, Prayut can fire Prawit from the NCPO and do a cabinet reshuffle without Article 44 to put Prawit permanently "out to pasture." No more "gravy train." The consequence  of such action would surely to be worth hundreds of watches to Prawit.

Absolutely correct that he can do a cabinet re-shuffle and replace Prawit. He did have that chance to re-shuffle the cabinet just recently but he didn't which was a big clue on how beholden he was to Prawit. It may be before watchgate but still that toad had just too many cases of misconduct and controversial comments that are sufficient reasons for dismissal. Those 2 are tight and both shared too many secrets to protect each other. Moreover they have have different powerful backers so not easy for both to cancel each other. They will try to rid out the storm and try to divert the attention. He may even do a right thing by announcing date for political activities to resume and an election date. But all diversion because all this can change on a dime with another false flag incident. 

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11 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

I don’t like Prawit and would enjoy seeing him lose his position (and ill gotten gains), but 44 can’t be constantly used to sort shit out. 

 

There needs to be a functioning legal system that punishes corruption amongst politicians. 

 

And not just when they, and their backers, lose power. 

Yes why he need 44 at all

just suspend him

he says he is strong but until now he been hiding it well 

This 44 is not for a man 

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On 12/19/2017 at 8:01 AM, mikebell said:

Ask him to explain how to make 5 million a year on  a salary of under 200K.

Probably closer to a billion a year. If not more. And if he asks Prawit to step down, then Little P., and the top generals all have to step down too. All of them are massively corrupt. No doubt about that. Probably the main reason they are staying on for so long. 

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It is unfortunate for him to get into that situation but I am certain it will be fixed one way or other.

He has gone on the media too often or the media got to him so this is the result. The Media is a powerful tool to destroy anyone they do not like.

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On 19/12/2017 at 8:13 PM, Thian said:

I agree that Khun Prayuth has to do something to save face of the hole government...scandals like this give all of them a bad reputation.

You posted that on December 19. As I write this there is one hour to go before it is the 28th and as yet nothing has been cleared up. Does this not indicate anything to you as of yet?

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I am constantly amazed at how many Thais seem totally unable to "get it". For example, here are some things I've heard and read daily over the past three years, repeated ad nauseum:

 

The "government" is serious about fighting corruption.

Thailand is headed towards a "stronger democracy."

Thailand's generals are morally superior to the Shinawatras.

Prayuth has "good intentions."

The military "stepped in" to "resolve conflicts" (rather than being a party to the conflict and its single biggest driver over the last decade plus).

Thailand has never had "real democracy" so it can't have lost it (except when people could criticize the government, vote for their preferred candidates, elect local bodies, speak freely on politics, host academic seminars on political topics, and on and on).

 

What else is there?

 

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4 minutes ago, debate101 said:

I am constantly amazed at how many Thais seem totally unable to "get it". For example, here are some things I've heard and read daily over the past three years, over the prepeated ad nauseum:

 

The "government" is serious about fighting corruption.

Thailand is headed towards a "stronger democracy."

Thailand's generals are morally superior to the Shinawatras.

Prayuth has "good intentions."

The military "stepped in" to "resolve conflicts" (rather than being a party to the conflict and its single biggest driver over the last decade plus).

Thailand has never had "real democracy" so it can't have lost it (except when people could criticize the government, vote for their preferred candidates, elect local bodies, speak freely on politics, host academic seminars on political topics, and on and on).

 

What else is there?

 

You have answered your own question: What else is there?

A corrupt and frightened elite now stuggling to come to terms with technology and the fact that it is available to pretty much anyone who wishes to make their voice heard. Then there is the loss of their patron and the huge void he left needing to be filled. What to do and remain at the head of the table?

Well, what we see now are censorship, imprisonments and the rigging of elections on par with African or Latin American banana republics of the 1970s or 80s. It looks to be working sadly, but as other posters have pointed out, events can take a sudden turn towards the opposite. Let us hope that this becomes the case in this fine country...

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