mauGR1 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 hours ago, zaZa9 said: What sort of crap post is this? The THAI is being brought up perfectly ! He found someone elses property and he did the right thing. And so did the staff announcing that the lost property had been found. ( I bet you wished they kept it ...) Theres only one thing contemptible here ... and its the falang insisting that there is ALWAYS something wrong with Thais ... and going on and < deleted> on how dishonest they are ... AND then advocating the kid, clearly not expecting anything , should not be honest next time ! My god what a pitiful bunch is much of this TV cesspit. If you cant see that the kid did the truly right thing , and what he did is what every society would love to see its children do , then its easy. Just go home... must be much better there with your national morality Im sure ... A bit harsh, but i agree on the principle. For honest people, being honest it's a reward in itself. The only chance for any society to survive, is the majority of the people to be honest. That said, 20 Baht seems a bit too tight, not even enough for a ice-cream cone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Name and shame the wallet owner. Lotsabaht Tipscroogeit deserves some bad press... Well done small boy. I hope he becomes PM one day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 hours ago, zaZa9 said: What sort of crap post is this? The THAI is being brought up perfectly ! He found someone elses property and he did the right thing. And so did the staff announcing that the lost property had been found. ( I bet you wished they kept it ...) Theres only one thing contemptible here ... and its the falang insisting that there is ALWAYS something wrong with Thais ... and going on and < deleted> on how dishonest they are ... AND then advocating the kid, clearly not expecting anything , should not be honest next time ! My god what a pitiful bunch is much of this TV cesspit. If you cant see that the kid did the truly right thing , and what he did is what every society would love to see its children do , then its easy. Just go home... must be much better there with your national morality Im sure ... I can see your point, but the kid deserved some decent reward for his honesty and encouragement to keep his integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Clearly this was not a TV falang wallet. For it would only have had 20B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 16 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Disgraceful. I know a reward is the choice of the person to whom the money was returned, but it would have been better not to give a reward, than insult him with 20 baht. I would have told them to stick it.......................... (you know the rest !). He wasn't insulted, that's the point, he was happy with his reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 15 hours ago, johncat1 said: If I lived near this honest boy I would gladly give him 500 Baht out of my own pocket and give this mean individual a piece of my mind What does living near him have to do with it? There's enough information available to track him down if you really meant it. Name, school, where it happened, Facebook of the shop inside Tesco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laislica Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said: I can see your point, but the kid deserved some decent reward for his honesty and encouragement to keep his integrity. The point is really that honesty in all things is what is required of everybody and at all times. There need be no reward for doing the right thing. Otherwise, is honesty only a gamble at the maximum you can legally get out of being honest? Leave the lad alone. EDIT Actually, honesty in relationships would be a good start to a Brave New World? You know, honest police men, honest politicians, honest figures in positions of authority, honest public?.... Edited December 29, 2017 by laislica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 What a generous reward. The giver should post that across the Internet. I'm sure there will be thunderous praise for such an act..... NOT.Sent from my [device_name] using http://Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) What a miserable p***k!! Surely B1000 would be a bare minimum?? Maybe he was one of those quality expats who takes his own water to a street food cart??? Edited December 29, 2017 by F4UCorsair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Thailand Civil and Commercial code. Section 1324. A finder of lost property may claim from the person entitled to receive it a reward of ten per cent of the value of the property up to thirty thousand baht, and five per cent on the additional value. However, if he delivers the property to the police or other competent official, two and a half per cent of the value of the property shall, in addition to the reward, be paid as a fee to the Government service concerned, but, in no case, shall such fee exceed one thousand baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 22 hours ago, speedtripler said: Very lucky an adult shopper or even a member of staff didn't find it and pocket it instead of an honest kid Personally, I wouldn't mind if some adult shopper or a member of the staff had found the wallet of that "cheap Charlie" and kept everything for himself. The owner of the wallet should have his name plastered all over the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 CG1 Blue , Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelman6 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 What an ungrateful SOB. I hope he looks in the mirror and sees what a disgusting, CHEAP, being he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKY Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Really 20 bath for the recovery of 40k ! I cant understand this mathematics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpduggan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 29/12/2017 at 11:23 AM, johncat1 said: If I lived near this honest boy I would gladly give him 500 Baht out of my own pocket and give this mean individual a piece of my mind You could always post it.I can get you his address! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 12/29/2017 at 11:23 AM, johncat1 said: If I lived near this honest boy I would gladly give him 500 Baht out of my own pocket and give this mean individual a piece of my mind if the story is true and i have doubts that young boy is a saint in the making and the owner of the wallet should have a coconut cart run over him the back up and do again .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 18 hours ago, whaleboneman said: i'm glad the young boy doesn't read this forum. he did the right thing and that is reward in itself. people that need to be rewarded for being honest are missing something. it's kind of like doing good deeds but expecting recognition. doing the right thing and always acting honestly makes me feel good - i don't require rewards for my actions. that is you .... not a young boy , please do not conflate the two . yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celer et Audax Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 i tip 20%, i hear the English never tip?I’m English and I always tip and on many occasions have been told by my gf that I give too much so please keep your sweeping generalisations about the English or any other people to your selfThanksSent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 hours ago, mikiea said: that is you .... not a young boy , please do not conflate the two . yikes and the boy becomes the man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laislica Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Celer et Audax said: On 12/29/2017 at 9:48 AM, malibukid said: i tip 20%, i hear the English never tip? I’m English and I always tip and on many occasions have been told by my gf that I give too much so please keep your sweeping generalisations about the English or any other people to your self Thanks Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app A little history here. Tipping was originally done Before an event: To Insure Prompt Service Tips. At a restaurant, there used to be a box, as you entered, with Tips written on it. The louder and longer the noise of your coins falling into the box, the better service you got. However, this became corrupted by some greedy owners and they cut the servers wages, because they could make it up with Tips! So, in those countries, some workers are not paid a fair wage and they rely on tips from the customers they serve. So generally, people from fair wage countries do not need to tip to make up someone's wages. They would tip if they receive exceptional service. But, people from countries where to tip is part of the price would, generally expect to give a tip and this can result in over tipping in some situations. This could give rise to people from countries who have to tip, to think that people from countries that don't have to tip, are mean and tight fisted. By the same token, some are seen as over tippers. In the case of this lad finding and correctly returning the lost cash, I would also have expected that a grateful owner of the cash would have been more generous, but he wasn't. In fact, nothing much is known abuot the Looser. Perhaps the cash was to pay off a loan shark and he simply couldn't afford more? Who knows? That the lad did the right thing and was happy is enough, but to suggest that in future he should steal instead of returning the cash disgusts me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Celer et Audax said: I’m English and I always tip and on many occasions have been told by my gf that I give too much so please keep your sweeping generalisations about the English or any other people to your self Thanks Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Outside 'murica, we pay our staff so customers don't have to wonder how much tip is appropriate .... It works very well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 12/30/2017 at 2:40 AM, laislica said: The point is really that honesty in all things is what is required of everybody and at all times. There need be no reward for doing the right thing. Otherwise, is honesty only a gamble at the maximum you can legally get out of being honest? Leave the lad alone. EDIT Actually, honesty in relationships would be a good start to a Brave New World? You know, honest police men, honest politicians, honest figures in positions of authority, honest public?.... He did this with no expectation of reward, and seemed happy with his 20 baht. But if you think giving him something significant as a reward will not encourage him to shun the intrinsic corruption in the country will not help the next generation of police, politicians and the rest to better behaviour I disagree. At 8 years old he should be taught being honest pays off in the end. 20 baht is no encouragement and he could get ridiculed at school for not keeping some of the money and dumping the wallet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Maybe we do not have the full story here. Maybe the "customer" who left 40k was a shop owner and the money was on its way to the bank and he could not touch that money . Maybe he only had 20 baht in his pocket and gave the kid ? Or maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laislica Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 14 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said: He did this with no expectation of reward, and seemed happy with his 20 baht. But if you think giving him something significant as a reward will not encourage him to shun the intrinsic corruption in the country will not help the next generation of police, politicians and the rest to better behaviour I disagree. At 8 years old he should be taught being honest pays off in the end. 20 baht is no encouragement and he could get ridiculed at school for not keeping some of the money and dumping the wallet... You have an interesting point. However, as we read in another thread, giving money to beggers simply encourages begging, whislt giving food or clothing simply helps. If honesty is always given a big reward, IMHO, that simply means that Honesty always requires a big reward..... (custom and practice) The reward, IMHO, should be praise and thanks and possibly, a small token of gratitude..... The reward should not be linked to a percentage of the potential loss. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 8 hours ago, laislica said: You have an interesting point. However, as we read in another thread, giving money to beggers simply encourages begging, whislt giving food or clothing simply helps. If honesty is always given a big reward, IMHO, that simply means that Honesty always requires a big reward..... (custom and practice) The reward, IMHO, should be praise and thanks and possibly, a small token of gratitude..... The reward should not be linked to a percentage of the potential loss. Just sayin. We are mostly of the same opinion, just the value of the reward. 20 baht is a bag of crisps, not much even to an 8 year old. 200 might have got him a toy, or 500+ a nice toy he would appreciate, cherish and remember it was given for his good deed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 i've read a few comments on here and thought i'd add my 20 bahts worth. there's a chance the person who owned the wallet was skint themselves and owed that money by way of bills or something. sure the kid did good and i would have given him 1000 baht but i don't know the owners situation so hard to judge. as for some saying wealthy thais don't give to charity, then maybe go to a chambers charity dinner and see how much they give. happy new year. and well done boy. your parents and teachers should be proud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Duck Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Is it at all possible that the ฿40,000 did not belong to the person that owned the wallet? My friend frequently carries her employers money in her purse to deposit in the bank. The ฿20 may have been all the person had of their own money. Just a possibility. No matter what the reward was, The young man will be rewarded good karma. As I seriously doubt the good deed was done for a reward. I find most Thais are this honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick01827 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 On 29/12/2017 at 12:33 PM, speedtripler said: You lose 40k in a public place in a third world country normally you can kiss it goodbye..... Even 0.5% reward would seem stingy to me when the likely alternative is losing 100% Completely agree, I would of given him 5000b no questions, as far as I'm concerned you'd still be 35,000b up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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