webfact Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 All suspects in stolen identify fraud arrested after woman confesses to opening accounts By KITTIPONG MANEERIT THE NATION File photo : NIcha A WOMAN who allegedly stole the identity of a victim to open bank accounts for fraudulent purposes has provided “useful information” to police, authorities said yesterday. The woman, who was identified only as Paveena, reportedly cooperated with police, leading to more arrests. “We can’t disclose details yet as we have to investigate further,” Deputy Police Spokesman Pol Colonel Krissana Pattanacharoen said yesterday. However, a source said police had already traced all suspected wrongdoers connected to the fraud case. “All suspects are now in detention,” the source said. “Police will talk to banks and plan to hold a press conference on the case on Tuesday [tomorrow].” A team from the Metropolitan Police Division 1 arrested Paveena late Saturday night, the source said. She reportedly confessed to using the national identity card of private company worker Nicha Kiatthanapaiboon to open five bank accounts. Nicha, who was detained for three days over a fraud charge before being released on bail, claimed she had applied for a new ID card after her wallet went missing in early October, but the culprit was still able to use the old card to open accounts. The source said Paveena had told police that a man identified only as Simon had offered to pay her Bt10,000 for opening the five accounts but she said eventually she was only paid Bt4,000. Nicha yesterday thanked police for acting fast in apprehending culprits. She also said did not know Paveena. Asked about the relatively large amount of money deposited in and withdrawn from her bank accounts, Nicha said the accounts were for her family business. She added that on average, the cash flow volume was about Bt100,000 a month. Asked about reports that she had talked on the phone with the suspected wrongdoer, Nicha said she suspected that her stolen ID card might have also been used to register SIM cards for cell phone services. Nicha also admitted that she had lost her national ID card three times – once in 2014 and twice last year. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30336243 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-01-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, webfact said: plan to hold a press conference on the case on Tuesday [tomorrow].” Which gives them plenty of time to round up a ridiculous amount of officers for the customary photo shoot ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Love it, Paneeva said a man named Simon promised her 10.000 baht for opening accounts, but she only got 4.000 baht, no honour among thieves. She was short changed ,so she dobbed them all in, priceless. Edited January 15, 2018 by colinneil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 'To lose one ID card may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose two looks like carelessness.' One of Oscar's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 If her new ID card has the same ID number as the old one/s (presumably) that she lost how do they cancel those that were lost ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, davehowden said: If her new ID card has the same ID number as the old one/s (presumably) that she lost how do they cancel those that were lost ? The cards have a chip on them. Each chip is different. The card reader/computer system at the District Office recognises cancelled cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, blackcab said: The cards have a chip on them. Each chip is different. The card reader/computer system at the District Office recognises cancelled cards. But not recognized as cancelled at the bank apparently ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, davehowden said: But not recognized as cancelled at the bank apparently ? You are correct. Certain businesses have the technology to read limited details from the card, but there is no 'live" checking for lost or stolen cards. The computer system used at all of the District Offices is not exactly state of the art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 9 hours ago, blackcab said: You are correct. Certain businesses have the technology to read limited details from the card, but there is no 'live" checking for lost or stolen cards. The computer system used at all of the District Offices is not exactly state of the art. And you can open an account whilst wearing a face mask! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 9 hours ago, davehowden said: And you can open an account whilst wearing a face mask! that's the most shocking part about this whole story for me, that a woman goes into a bank with a face mask and sunglasses on and can open an account and not one member of the bank staff thought that was even slightly suss . . shocking really. but before any thai bashing it's not as bad as watching a load of burka clad girls/boys (who knows) going through the immigration counters at heathrow showing their passports, what are they doing when they look at the passport page then look at a full face veil then say ok, pass through. shambles **this may well have changed but only a few years ago that's what i saw with my very own eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Happy Enough. It is quite clear you don't belong to that favoured group of girls/boys in muslim gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Lost 3 ID Cards in 3 Years.....whats the Quote for one on the grey Market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Happy enough said: that's the most shocking part about this whole story for me, that a woman goes into a bank with a face mask and sunglasses on and can open an account and not one member of the bank staff thought that was even slightly suss . . shocking really. but before any thai bashing it's not as bad as watching a load of burka clad girls/boys (who knows) going through the immigration counters at heathrow showing their passports, what are they doing when they look at the passport page then look at a full face veil then say ok, pass through. shambles **this may well have changed but only a few years ago that's what i saw with my very own eyes It was OK as long as she also bought the Insurance !,cannot miss the chance of some commission. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 In the BKK post it is mentioned that banks can check the status of an ID card if it is reported stolen or not. But Thai banks don't use the system only foreign banks.. (guess what ones are safer). They should just make the system mandatory for all banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 7 hours ago, colinneil said: Love it, Paneeva said a man named Simon promised her 10.000 baht for opening accounts, but she only got 4.000 baht, no honour among thieves. She was short changed ,so she dobbed them all in, priceless. Chances are they will never find the guy named "Simon" not a typical Thai name is it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 5 hours ago, robblok said: In the BKK post it is mentioned that banks can check the status of an ID card if it is reported stolen or not. That's great until someone opens an account in a mall branch at the weekend, or after 5pm when all the government staff have gone home. If every bank checked every ID I think the District Offices would need more phone lines and more staff. Alternatively, upgrade the system so that each ID card has a pin number, just like a bank card. Banks could be required to allow pin changes for free at any ATM. Unless you knew the pin number, it would make stolen ID cards useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Oh dear !!!....some bank branches in Thailand make hell and a fuss towards expats and tourists who honestly want to open and operate their bank account and pump in good cash !!!....but a common thief, with her faced masked can open an account fradulently. ... lovely country and great logic...but of course, you don't like, you leave... Edited January 15, 2018 by metisdead Over size font re-set to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Dude Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Nicha sure has the face for looking pissed-off...whatever the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaichiro Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Happy enough said: that's the most shocking part about this whole story for me, that a woman goes into a bank with a face mask and sunglasses on and can open an account and not one member of the bank staff thought that was even slightly suss . . shocking really. but before any thai bashing it's not as bad as watching a load of burka clad girls/boys (who knows) going through the immigration counters at heathrow showing their passports, what are they doing when they look at the passport page then look at a full face veil then say ok, pass through. shambles **this may well have changed but only a few years ago that's what i saw with my very own eyes Fear of skin darkening is a valid reason to cover your face in Thai society and rarely challenged. Perhaps later she might display her very white arse, and more, on social media! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabis Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Sir Dude said: Nicha sure has the face for looking pissed-off...whatever the cause. 3 days in the slammer and then harvesting bail money for fraud charges could sour your face too I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, TunnelRat69 said: Chances are they will never find the guy named "Simon" not a typical Thai name is it?? He was the first one to be arrested after the girl and, surprisingly, he was an African. Edited January 15, 2018 by Just Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, Just Weird said: He was the first one to be arrested after the girl and, surprisingly, he was an African. Given your credibility , it would be best if you posted a reference for your "facts" if one exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, isaanbanhou said: Given your credibility , it would be best if you posted a reference for your "facts" if one exists. Try going back and reading the early reports, do your own research if you can't keep up. My credibility is pretty good, thanks, with those that can read and comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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