Cleared Abhisit says dismissal order was ‘political bullying’

By THE NATION

 

 

DEMOCRAT PARTY leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said yesterday that he was happy that the Army-dismissal order against him had been overturned, and he would now study the court ruling to assist in a complaint he would file with the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) against former defence minister ACM Sukumpol Suwanatat.
 

Abhisit said the allegations were a political bullying tactic, and those who made claims against him should be held responsible for their actions.

 

The NACC, he said, dismissed his complaint when it was first heard but now that the Supreme Court had ruled on the matter, the agency should be in a position to review the complaint again.

 

Abhisit said those in power should not abuse it for political gains but wield it with fairness. This, he said, could help improve politics and the country’s democracy. The Supreme Court ruled against the former defence minister’s order to discharge Abhisit from the Army. The Pheu Thai Party’s ACM Sukumpol had signed the order in 2012 dismissing Abhisit from the Army, but the court revoked the order saying it was unlawful.

 

Abhisit was not serving in the Army at the time; in fact he had not been a serving officer since leaving the Army 23 years ago. The order, with its retroactive effect, was therefore unlawful and deemed to be a violation of Abhisit’s rights, his lawyer said yesterday. 

 

Some Democrat party members claimed that it was part of a plot to keep Abhisit out of politics.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30336527

 

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Why do all of these ex PMs continue to allow crazy laws to exist ?

 

It would take just one government to change the law, or would it ?

Abhisit is right to complain! He did nothing wrong! He only provided fake documents! 

http://thailandchatter.com/showthread.php?7050-Court-Abhisit-s-dismissal-from-army-reserve-justified

Abhisit is right.This charge was almost certainly was driven by political considerations.I don't think an honest person would point out political vindictiveness in one case but deny it here.Nevertheless it would be wrong not to accept Abhisit doesn't come out of this looking great.The charge was dismissed on a technicality (retrospective judgement).Furthermore like most privileged Thais, Abhisit played the system to avoid conscription - in his case with notably shabby tactics.

4 hours ago, ukrules said:

Why do all of these ex PMs continue to allow crazy laws to exist ?

 

It would take just one government to change the law, or would it ?

Hey! Not go so quick here, nah. If it were that easy, don´t you think somebody would have tried already? 

2 hours ago, jayboy said:

Abhisit is right.This charge was almost certainly was driven by political considerations.I don't think an honest person would point out political vindictiveness in one case but deny it here.Nevertheless it would be wrong not to accept Abhisit doesn't come out of this looking great.The charge was dismissed on a technicality (retrospective judgement).Furthermore like most privileged Thais, Abhisit played the system to avoid conscription - in his case with notably shabby tactics.

If he was guilty he should be punished political or not.. when you commit a crime you should not hide behind the.. its political. I find that such a lame excuse. 

52 minutes ago, robblok said:

If he was guilty he should be punished political or not.. when you commit a crime you should not hide behind the.. its political. I find that such a lame excuse. 

When as in this case there was clear political motivation in charging Abhisit, it's not "hiding behind..its political" to point this out.It's not a lame excuse.

 

Even when genuine crimes have been committed it's really important that justice should be impartial and free from political pressure.Furthermore in a well ordered justice system if political pressure to convict can be demonstrated, that is usually enough for the charge to be reduced or dismissed.Thus those who probably should be convicted are not - hugely counter productive.

 

Abhisit's offense by Thailand standards was a trifling one.He doesn't emerge from the situation well partly because we expect higher standards of him.But to be fair if he is to be condemned for avoiding conscription, one must also condemn thousands of others privileged types who did the same thing or worse.

14 minutes ago, jayboy said:

When as in this case there was clear political motivation in charging Abhisit, it's not "hiding behind..its political" to point this out.It's not a lame excuse.

 

Even when genuine crimes have been committed it's really important that justice should be impartial and free from political pressure.Furthermore in a well ordered justice system if political pressure to convict can be demonstrated, that is usually enough for the charge to be reduced or dismissed.Thus those who probably should be convicted are not - hugely counter productive.

 

Abhisit's offense by Thailand standards was a trifling one.He doesn't emerge from the situation well partly because we expect higher standards of him.But to be fair if he is to be condemned for avoiding conscription, one must also condemn thousands of others privileged types who did the same thing or worse.

I feel avoiding conscription is not a bad thing I am against it and am happy it was abolished just before it was my time back in the Netherlands.

 

Has nothing to do with my views on Abisith if he was doing something illegal even if trifle if it gets punished and even if it is because of political pressure..then he just should not have done it. If you are a politician your more vulnerable, just be clean and you can't get punished. It would help people to adhere to higher standards. But it would be nice if it was applied equally (see Prawit). Sorry I have no tolerance for any corruption deception so i feel no pity for those that got caught even if its on my side. That why i don't care much for the political label. 

9 minutes ago, robblok said:

I feel avoiding conscription is not a bad thing

 

I don't disagree, but IMHO what is really bad is when politicians from wealthy families who avoid their National Service are still willing to impose it upon the sons of farmers and factory workers.

 

I do not recall PM Abhisit nor any other 'dodger' speaking out against conscription.

34 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

 

I don't disagree, but IMHO what is really bad is when politicians from wealthy families who avoid their National Service are still willing to impose it upon the sons of farmers and factory workers.

 

I do not recall PM Abhisit nor any other 'dodger' speaking out against conscription.

My views on conscription are totally unconnected to Abisith.. what he did was wrong. I am just totally anti conscription.