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Jingthing · April 24, 2018

OK, let's try this. In spite of LA Times, Mike Pompeo will be confirmed as the new Secretary of State.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-20180423-story.html

Huh? The article you cite says he will be confirmed so your in spite of comment makes no sense.

"It would be the first time in years that a nomination for such a high-level Cabinet position did not receive backing at the committee level. Despite the snub, the full Senate is expected to approve CIA Director Pompeo's nomination later this week thanks to a handful of Democratic votes."

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riclag · April 24, 2018

"CBO Projects: GDP Headed To 15-Year High"

“In our projections, the effects of the 2017 Tax Act on incentives to work, save and invest, raise real potential GDP throughout the 2018 and 2028 period,” he told the committee. “Over the same period, the Tax Act is projected to boost the level of real GDP by an average of 0.7 percent and nonfarm payroll employment by an average of 1.1 million jobs.”

“The growth of real GDP in CBO’s current projections now increases to 3.3 percent in 2018 before falling back to 2.4 percent in 2019,” says CBO budget outlook".

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/cbo-projects-gdp-headed-15-year-high

Good news for once ,American's need to hear more about growth in the economy

Edited April 24, 2018 by riclag

bristolboy · April 24, 2018

12 minutes ago, riclag said:

"CBO Projects: GDP Headed To 15-Year High"

“In our projections, the effects of the 2017 Tax Act on incentives to work, save and invest, raise real potential GDP throughout the 2018 and 2028 period,” he told the committee. “Over the same period, the Tax Act is projected to boost the level of real GDP by an average of 0.7 percent and nonfarm payroll employment by an average of 1.1 million jobs.”

“The growth of real GDP in CBO’s current projections now increases to 3.3 percent in 2018 before falling back to 2.4 percent in 2019,” says CBO budget outlook".

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/cbo-projects-gdp-headed-15-year-high

Good news for once ,American's need to hear more about growth in the economy

From the Wall Street Journal:

Still Waiting for the Tax-Cut Boost

The economy weakened in the first quarter despite stimulus, leaving it unclear how much government stimulus will ramp up growth.

The U.S. economy slowed down in the first quarter. That isn’t a surprise, but considering the stimulus hitting the economy it counts as disappointment.

http://www.cetusnews.com/life/Still-Waiting-for-the-Tax-Cut-Boost---.HJrRBFihM.html

riclag · April 24, 2018

"The US unemployment rate stood at a 17-year low of 4.1 percent for the sixth consecutive month in March 2018, slightly above market expectations of 4 percent".

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate

bristolboy · April 24, 2018

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

"The US unemployment rate stood at a 17-year low of 4.1 percent for the sixth consecutive month in March 2018, slightly above market expectations of 4 percent".

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate

I remember when Obama was President how right wingers were always accusing the Bureau of Labor Statistics of lying about the unemployment figures. That they were actually much worse. I don't see any signs of that skepticism any more.

Watchful · April 24, 2018

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Huh? The article you cite says he will be confirmed so your in spite of comment makes no sense.

"It would be the first time in years that a nomination for such a high-level Cabinet position did not receive backing at the committee level. Despite the snub, the full Senate is expected to approve CIA Director Pompeo's nomination later this week thanks to a handful of Democratic votes."

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Guess you missed the headine, "embarrassing Pompeo rebuke". Further, they talk about the "snub" of not getting committee backing.

Well, guess what.... "NO EMBARRASSING REBUKE" and no SNUB.

The "never Trumpers" will just have to schedule another pity party.

Even CNN calls this a "big win".

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/24/politics/donald-trump-mike-pompeo/index.html

Edited April 24, 2018 by Watchful

bristolboy · April 24, 2018

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

"The US unemployment rate stood at a 17-year low of 4.1 percent for the sixth consecutive month in March 2018, slightly above market expectations of 4 percent".

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate

Yes, that is good news. But the question is, who should get the credit for it? Europe's economy has finally recovered from the recession. Is Trump responsible for that. Japan's economy is on the upswing. Is Trump responsible for that? In fact, all the major world economies are doing well. If Trump is responsible for all that, then I guess Trump is magic!

riclag · April 24, 2018

1 minute ago, bristolboy said:

Yes, that is good news. But the question is, who should get the credit for it? Europe's economy has finally recovered from the recession. Is Trump responsible for that. Japan's economy is on the upswing. Is Trump responsible for that? In fact, all the major world economies are doing well. If Trump is responsible for all that, then I guess Trump is magic!

Good news!. It's spectacular, for everybody!!! It must be magic ,considering all the opposition and resistance by the progressives. Go figure

bristolboy · April 24, 2018

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

Good news!. It's spectacular, for everybody!!! It must be magic ,considering all the opposition and resistance by the progressives. Go figure

Opposition to what exactly?

Jingthing · April 24, 2018

14 minutes ago, Watchful said:

Guess you missed the headine, "embarrassing Pompeo rebuke". Further, they talk about the "snub" of not getting committee backing.

Well, guess what.... "NO EMBARRASSING REBUKE" and no SNUB.

The "never Trumpers" will just have to schedule another pity party.

No, you don't get away with that spin.

Your post clearly implied that the LA Times was saying that Pompeo would not get confirmed.

That was totally false.

They never said that.

I have a suggestion. When you get caught out like that, just own up to your error, and move on. Doubling down on false stuff is a "trump" thing and very much not impressive.

Edited April 24, 2018 by Jingthing

lannarebirth · April 24, 2018

28 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I remember when Obama was President how right wingers were always accusing the Bureau of Labor Statistics of lying about the unemployment figures. That they were actually much worse. I don't see any signs of that skepticism any more.

They weren't lying then and they're not lying now. They just changed the definition of who could be considered unemployed, both then and now. The figures in no way match the definition of unemployment as most people understand it.,but they match the definition they created to give the impression that less people are out of the workforce than there actually are.

Jingthing · April 24, 2018

"trump" acts like a guilty man. Hmm.

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Trump’s ‘flip’ argument about his lawyer-fixer is the latest instance of the president adopting a combative posture that creates the appearance of a coverup.

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“Most people will flip if the Government lets them out of trouble,” Trump tweeted over the weekend. “Sorry, I don’t see Michael doing that.”

By asserting that the government would not be able to “flip” Cohen, Trump invited a question: If the Russia probe is the “witch hunt” the president says it is — and if he is as innocent as he so often proclaims — what incriminating evidence would Cohen have on Trump that would give him leverage to flip?

It was only the latest instance of the president adopting a posture vis-a-vis his legal troubles that is both combative and defensive — and, perhaps unwittingly, seems to assume guilt.

http://www.paywallnews.com/news/Trump-keeps-saying-he’s-innocent--So-why-does-he-keep-sounding-like-he’s-guilty-.ryx6g0REpn3z.html

lannarebirth · April 24, 2018

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

"trump" acts like a guilty man. Hmm.

http://www.paywallnews.com/news/Trump-keeps-saying-he’s-innocent--So-why-does-he-keep-sounding-like-he’s-guilty-.ryx6g0REpn3z.html

It is the language a mob boss might use.

Credo · April 24, 2018

Here's an interesting read about Trump voters:

Scientific study on Trump voters confirms what people of color have been saying all along

The Trump voter is often portrayed in media and pop culture as a working-class white person, down on their luck and desperate for change. These voters were — and remain — willing to look past Trump's erratic and unorthodox behavior and "politically incorrect" commentary if his presidency brings better jobs. These voters, the narrative goes, are in pursuit of a noble life, even if the man they chose to be commander-in-chief is neither generous or honorable.

https://mashable.com/2018/04/23/why-donald-trump-won-voter-study/?utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+(Mashable)&utm_cid=Mash-Prod-RSS-Feedburner-All-Partial&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed#u6Xj9dp4KOq4

A lot of interesting findings.

bristolboy · April 24, 2018

19 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

They weren't lying then and they're not lying now. They just changed the definition of who could be considered unemployed, both then and now. The figures in no way match the definition of unemployment as most people understand it.,but they match the definition they created to give the impression that less people are out of the workforce than there actually are.

I don't understand. Are you saying that they changed the definition of who could be considered unemployed back then, and they've changed it again now?

Slip · April 24, 2018

5 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I don't understand. Are you saying that they changed the definition of who could be considered unemployed back then, and they've changed it again now?

Well back when MAGA was great again, thee were lots of 'employed' folk who didn't necessarily get paid an awful lot. Some of our posters hanker back to them goo ol' days.

lannarebirth · April 24, 2018

22 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I don't understand. Are you saying that they changed the definition of who could be considered unemployed back then, and they've changed it again now?

I'm saying U3 gives only a partial picture of who is unemployed. I have no objection that U3 is the "headline number" but any official release should be accompanied by U4, U5 and U6 reports in the same news release to give an accurate picture of the unemployment that exists and unemployment trends. There used to be wider reporting of these other measures, and politicians cherry pick them situationally to suit their agendas., but they are under reported Better to get it all out for the proper perspective on unemployment.

http://www.macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate

Edited April 24, 2018 by lannarebirth

lannarebirth · April 24, 2018

3 minutes ago, Slip said:

Well back when MAGA was great again, thee were lots of 'employed' folk who didn't necessarily get paid an awful lot. Some of our posters hanker back to them goo ol' days.

Because I got paid an "awful lot", my "goo ol' days" started at 44 when I chose to be no longer "employed".

Slip · April 24, 2018

I wasn't referring to you lannarebirth. I honestly didn't notice who posted it, and it simply made me consider some of our posters' views and where they are seated historically/culturally speaking.

Meanwhile, for general enjoyment, here is a thread about some of the more salacious accusations that are increasingly embroiling Mr Trump.

alocacoc · April 24, 2018

Trump will not only finish his first term, he will also master his second term like a boss.

Right now as we speak, Trump gains massively sympathy from Americans.

Mark my words.

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Jingthing · April 24, 2018

5 minutes ago, alocacoc said:

Trump will not only finish his first term, he will also master his second term like a boss.

Right now as we speak, Trump gains massively sympathy from Americans.

Mark my words.

Sent from a so called Smartphone using an App.

Nope. His approval ratings are dismally low. Every indication shows his party will lose control of the house in November, and possibly even the senate. Then things will get even more miserable for him. His presidency faces multiple legal threats, he acts like a guilty man, there's circumstantial evidence an enemy power (Russia) has Kompramat on him, and as powerful as he is, he isn't powerful enough to make all that go away. He may well finish his first term, but a second term, forget about it.

Edited April 24, 2018 by Jingthing

Andaman Al · April 24, 2018

49 minutes ago, alocacoc said:

Mark my words.

We will. You make sure you mark them as well. If Trump does another term I will eat my shorts (and post the video), Mark my words. If Trump does not do another term will you post a video of you eating your shorts?

Jingthing · April 24, 2018

Will "trump"'s big lies ever catch up with him?

Maybe!

Of course his base doesn't care, they seem to revel in how sleazy he is, but his base doesn't control everything (yet).

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A false alibi could be strong evidence of guilt

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Once triers of fact (either at trial or in the court of public opinion) believe that an accused person is lying, it becomes awfully hard to convince them that there is good reason to lie. In this case, evidence of the coverup is so plentiful that ordinary people — not unreasonably — will assume guilt. Trump’s penchant for lying, exaggerating, distorting and misremembering in ways that invariably line up with his unfounded assertions might finally do him in.

http://www.paywallnews.com/life/Opinion-|-A-false-alibi-could-be-strong-evidence-of-guilt.HyEgIl6nM.html

bendejo · April 24, 2018

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

2 hours ago, alocacoc said:

Trump will not only finish his first term, he will also master his second term like a boss.

Right now as we speak, Trump gains massively sympathy from Americans.

Mark my words.

Sent from a so called Smartphone using an App.

Nope. His approval ratings are dismally low. Every indication shows his party will lose control of the house in November, and possibly even the senate. Then things will get even more miserable for him. His presidency faces multiple legal threats, he acts like a guilty man, there's circumstantial evidence an enemy power (Russia) has Kompramat on him, and as powerful as he is, he isn't powerful enough to make all that go away. He may well finish his first term, but a second term, forget about it.

The proof of this expectation is the rate in which GOP members of Congress are stepping down, or not running for re-election, like rats abandoning a sinking ship. Even the Speaker of the House has the sudden desire to "spend more time with his family." When all this is over there will be a reckoning, on several levels, focusing on those those who bit the s___ sandwich.

The Hill, very much a right-of-center publication where GOP members can do no wrong, has begun to cover the sordid and sleazy stuff, usually ignored by their ilk. A clear sign the GOP is circling the wagons. The "everyone is lying except me" routine won't hold to 2020.

At some point the holy rollers are going to reach the tipping point with his shenanigans and his fanbase figures will commence to drop beneath the rock-solid base of 35% he's had since that day he announced his candidacy. The only thing that could bring him back from that would be a full-on public display of contrition, Jimmy Swaggert style. Maybe. But no matter, he would not be able to pull that one off.

And let's not forget all these investigations are not just about what happened in the past, there is also what is going on right now.

Edited April 24, 2018 by bendejo

lannarebirth · April 24, 2018

14 minutes ago, bendejo said:

The only thing that could bring him back from that would be a full-on public display of contrition, Jimmy Swaggert style. Maybe. But no matter, he would not be able to pull that one off.

Jimmy Swaggert Style? Can't see it.

Cagney style maybe:

bendejo · April 24, 2018

2 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

Cagney style maybe:

But it would be about dad, not ma!

Watchful · April 24, 2018

6 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Yes, that is good news. But the question is, who should get the credit for it? Europe's economy has finally recovered from the recession. Is Trump responsible for that. Japan's economy is on the upswing. Is Trump responsible for that? In fact, all the major world economies are doing well. If Trump is responsible for all that, then I guess Trump is magic!

Be careful! Not everyone thinks the Euro zone is doing all that well.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/m/economy/201364/turkeys-sectoral-confidence-goes-down-in-april

F4UCorsair · April 25, 2018

10 hours ago, bristolboy said:

I don't understand. Are you saying that they changed the definition of who could be considered unemployed back then, and they've changed it again now?

I think that's exactly what he's saying.

I recall some years back when a socialist government was in power in Australia, and housing and petrol were put in and out of the cost of living, quarter to quarter, to give more favorable figures. There could be no better indicator of cost of living than housing and petrol.

A similar thing has been done with unemployment figures. The definition varies, so that the figures are favorable for the government of the day.

No surprises there.

F4UCorsair · April 25, 2018

7 hours ago, Andaman Al said:

We will. You make sure you mark them as well. If Trump does another term I will eat my shorts (and post the video), Mark my words. If Trump does not do another term will you post a video of you eating your shorts?

What a kinky chap you are Al !!!

Johnniey · April 25, 2018

On 23/04/2018 at 9:11 AM, Silurian said:

Presidential photo at Barbara Bush's funeral. One president missing...

President Carter was on a personal trip and his wife is recovering from an illness.

Oh and Melania looks so happy!

They all look happy as they all should be in jail, especially the Bushes and Clintons. there is plenty of proof about their corruption, genocide, breaking international law, started massive wars to benefit their companies etc. I'm sure trump is smiling too, getting rid of his wife for a while.

Trump and Carter, the only two absent that have not committed gruesome crimes against humanity, they wouldn't want to be seen with this crowd.

Edited April 25, 2018 by Johnniey

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