On ‎2‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 4:54 PM, sco77y said:

But i dont live here i live on a ship i come here on holiday to see my wife 

You do live here when you're not on the ship, surely?

On ‎2‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 5:36 PM, Happy enough said:

you do realize that sentence hardly even made sense. and no, we are not all english teachers trying to find mistakes in other peoples comments

Most foreign English teachers here wouldn't be able to find those mistakes!

Edited February 11, 20188 yr by Just Weird

On ‎2‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 1:40 AM, JackThompson said:

 

I agree with this - always carried them myself - but do we have known-cases of them accepting such things?  Reports indicate people being asked the same questions over and over, called liars, and prevented from going to ATMs to get cash.  

"...people being... prevented from going to ATMs to get cash".

No one is prevented from getting cash, there are no ATMs before Immigration to get cash from!   What can the IOs do about that?

 

 

1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

"...people being... prevented from going to ATMs to get cash".

No one is prevented from getting cash, there are no ATMs before Immigration to get cash from!   What can the IOs do about that?

I am sure it is just a coincidence that there are ATMs on the way OUT (as detained people denied-entry for "not having enough money," being escorted to their flights out, have reported), but not on the way IN from the plane. 

 

Everyone knows "money" need not be carried around any more, at risk of loss or theft, with plastic/atms having solved that problem decades ago.   The IOs know this.  If they wanted ATMs there, so that people could prove financials, there would be ATMs there within the week.

 

1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

It'd be interesting to know how requiring some visitors to have cash on them is a "scam".  What does the IO get out of that "scam"?

They get to deny people entry whom they, personally, don't think should be in Thailand, based on false pretenses - namely, that "cash in the pocket" has any relationship to a person's net-worth / ability to afford their visit.

Edited February 11, 20188 yr by JackThompson

6 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

They get to deny people entry whom they, personally, don't think should be in Thailand, based on false pretenses - namely, that "cash in the pocket" has any relationship to a person's net-worth / ability to afford their visit.

So it's not a scam, then.

11 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

So it's not a scam, then.

I believe there is a related monetary aspect, which is why those whose means of stay are part of the Elite or potentially "agent-assisted" types of stay are not bothered to "show the money" in airports - though they could be.   Driving people like the OP to those options fits the "scam" description, imo.

 

Based on reported remarks, it would seem that this subset of IOs would like ALL of us longer-staying Farangs banished.  But if some in their hierarchy-chain are potentially-benefiting from a foreigner's visa/extension type, they must set-aside that desire, to avoid stepping on the toes of those beneficiaries.  This leaves them to take out their frustration on the "low hanging fruit."

Edited February 11, 20188 yr by JackThompson

15 hours ago, JackThompson said:

I believe there is a related monetary aspect, which is why those whose means of stay are part of the Elite or potentially "agent-assisted" types of stay are not bothered to "show the money" in airports - though they could be.   Driving people like the OP to those options fits the "scam" description, imo.

You have a strange idea of what a scam is then if you think that the Elite scheme is one and the rest of your comment has nothing whatsoever to do with the lack of ATMs before Immigration which is what my comment referred to.

On 2/2/2018 at 3:18 PM, Pattaya46 said:

Why do people who have grievances about Immigration at the airport never give precise information about their situation ? 

How difficult is it to say :

• how many times you entered Thailand in last year(s)
• which visa or exemptions you used
• how many days/weeks/month you stayed in Thailand in last year (or years)

...

It's nearly impossible to understand/explain/help without all information 

 

It would also be helpful to post up a photo of their appearance when they went through immigration.

 

I post that tongue in cheek, but along with the info mentioned by Pattaya46, a photo would be good information for anyone worried about their outcome when they come to Thailand under a TV or visa exempt.  I know guys who have made dozens of visa exempt entries, and others who have done the 28 and 28 thing for decades without a problem. 

 

I'm curious what the difference is between those guys and the few that post up here about getting knocked back or interrogated.  Maybe it is a few rogue IO's and the luck of the draw.  Maybe it is the choice of entry point, or which airline.  Or perhaps what passport they hold at which border.

 

Or maybe there's something a lot more predictable and therefore, controllable.  That would be good info, for anyone who doesn't qualify for a long term extension, doesn't want to put out 500,000 baht for an Elite visa, and yet, isn't going to be working in the Kingdom.  Unfortunately, it's tough to draw any conclusions (other than "marry a local", which has its own set of risks- or "spend $16,000 like I did") with just the parts of the story the OP wants to reveal.  Not picking on this OP in particular, just a general comment on what seems to be a recurring theme.

 

Edited February 12, 20188 yr by impulse

1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

You have a strange idea of what a scam is then if you think that the Elite scheme is one and the rest of your comment has nothing whatsoever to do with the lack of ATMs before Immigration which is what my comment referred to.

The lack of ATMs before immigration is to prevent people from accessing cash demanded by IOs at checkpoints. 

 

The purpose of the checkpoint-hassling of Farangs hailing from nations with much better job-opportunities than found in Thailand, under the guise of stopping "illegal workers" - while millions of poor people who actually do undermine Thai-wages are given visas by immigration - is to create a demand for unnecessary and/or expensive visas that funnel money to certain beneficiaries. 

1 hour ago, JackThompson said:

The lack of ATMs before immigration is to prevent people from accessing cash demanded by IOs at checkpoints. 

"The lack of ATMs before immigration is to prevent people from accessing cash demanded by IOs at checkpoints". 

Says who? 

Why would an IO care about ATM locations?

Edited February 12, 20188 yr by Just Weird

23 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

"The lack of ATMs before immigration is to prevent people from accessing cash demanded by IOs at checkpoints". 

Says who? 

Why would an IO care about ATM locations?

Because in Jack's opinion they're all out to get us.

20 hours ago, Just Weird said:

Most foreign English teachers here wouldn't be able to find those mistakes!

Source of your knowledge regarding teachers ...?

1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

"The lack of ATMs before immigration is to prevent people from accessing cash demanded by IOs at checkpoints". 

Says who? 

Why would an IO care about ATM locations?

Because ... "The lack of ATMs before immigration is to prevent people from accessing cash demanded by IOs at checkpoints". If they could, the "show 20K Baht in cash routine would not work - people would just withdraw it to show.

 

56 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Because in Jack's opinion they're all out to get us.

Never said "all" - but some, clearly so.  Ask those who were put through the ringer for no sane reason, and I'm sure they will agree.

Edited February 12, 20188 yr by JackThompson

On ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 3:05 PM, transam said:

Source of your knowledge regarding teachers ...?

Meeting more than a few of them.