Money pours in for Brit and Thai wife and child down on their luck in Buriram

[KiChakayan]

21 hours ago, colinneil said:

Sorry he has lived here 30 years, and has made no provision for his old age.

I am paraplegic, my wife has to take care of all my needs, yes even toilet.

Do i go am the internet begging? no just get on with it.

Kudos, but not everyone can be a colinneil...

Interestingly, the Thais do understand this.

[spoon1967]

1 minute ago, Odysseus123 said:

No-one has ever called me a "saintly man" and I guess they never will.On the other hand,I don't spend my life condemning others on non-existent information,tho' that appears to be an essential tool in a lot of  expat's tool kits....

 

I have returned your PM.

lol, maybe at least some guys may learn from these posts and plan their Thai retirement better, you got to have at least some emergency cash (hidden from the wife, one card game and it all could be gone). 

 

Like I said, I feel for the wife and kid, at one time being married to a farang was a high status thing - not now.  Hope other retirees take heed.

 

 

[Whitestarschool]

21 hours ago, colinneil said:

  My pride would never allow me to beg off anyone.

Always done things myself always will.

You've not reached the finish line yet, mate. Funny how life has a way of dealing unexpected cards..you may one day be put in such a position and let's see how strong is your pride then.

 

It's called the "yets": ain't happened YET.

[XJPSX]

A liability on society. How does he manage to stay here on a visa if he has no money. Even a marriage visa you need 400k.

 

[billd766]

37 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

You only need 10, which I had, being a student half that time.

I recently doubled that by posting back the last 10 years for 1500 pound. Probably this guy has 10 years, let's chip in and get him 65000 baht so he can get over 100 quid a week, more than enough to live in a shack in bloody rural Buriram.

 

I paid in for 44 years and I only get £95 a week frozen at 2009 rates.

 

I am not sure of the DWP pension rules any more and how far back and at what rates they will accept contributions. Also I am not sure if he would get a full pension or a partial one.

 

To give an accurate answer you would have to know how many contributions he has made, how many years back they would let him pay and they will come up with a figure.

 

As for his weight and falling down, if he has a back back and kneecaps, getting down is hard and getting up harder still under normal circumstances, let alone after a fall.

[colinneil]

9 minutes ago, Whitestarschool said:

You've not reached the finish line yet, mate. Funny how life has a way of dealing unexpected cards..you may one day be put in such a position and let's see how strong is your pride then.

 

It's called the "yets": ain't happened YET.

What a silly comment to say to a paraplegic, please keep up.

[mommysboy]

6 minutes ago, spoon1967 said:

lol, maybe at least some guys may learn from these posts and plan their Thai retirement better, you got to have at least some emergency cash (hidden from the wife, one card game and it all could be gone). 

 

Like I said, I feel for the wife and kid, at one time being married to a farang was a high status thing - not now.  Hope other retirees take heed.

 

 

This is what stops me from being a bit more critical of the guy.  Anyone who has lived here long enough knows that they're walking a tightrope.  Thai families have a habit of throwing up disaster.  If any one of us thought it through properly, we'd probably pack a suitcase and head straight back to Blighty, or wherever, but as soon as you have a kid they become your focus.

[mommysboy]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

I paid in for 44 years and I only get £95 a week frozen at 2009 rates.

 

I am not sure of the DWP pension rules any more and how far back and at what rates they will accept contributions. Also I am not sure if he would get a full pension or a partial one.

 

To give an accurate answer you would have to know how many contributions he has made, how many years back they would let him pay and they will come up with a figure.

 

As for his weight and falling down, if he has a back back and kneecaps, getting down is hard and getting up harder still under normal circumstances, let alone after a fall.

 

The truth is he's got a severe addiction to food- to the extent he's now immobilised and without a penny.  He can't even get on a plane in his state.  I think most of us have addictions which we manage to control.  His appears disastrous.  I don't want to chuck stones: I don't think he's made a freewill choice- that's the nature of addiction.  In truth, I don't feel inclined to offer help either, perhaps that's something I need to work on- I don't know.  I really think it's something the authorities need to sort out, although there's no chance of that.

[sawadeeken]

I feel for the poor Thai Wife but not for him....... In the US we the Tax payers are 'carrying the load' for so many similar cases of people who live their daily life just getting by...... All their productive years they did nothing..... Now they get 'old' and they want 'other folks' to continue to support them.............. Sorry........... I'd rather support an Issan poor family who never had a chance during their productive years, and give them a bit of assistance with my help............. 

This guy in his hospital bed looks like he 'drank away' his money rather than 'saving' for 'the rainy day'.......  NOW it is a rainy day for him and I have no sympathy for him.......... I have 'truck loads' of sympathy for his wife and child........... Sorry to add that I hope he is taken to the 'Wat' for burial before the hospital bills exceed the donations and I hope the wife has a few 'baht' left over for the 'deserving ones' left behind..........

In the US we have to many like this guy........... 30 years of not working or carrying 'his own' load ............

[somchaismith]

At least the tight, selfish people have come.out in this thread and highlighted themselves.

 

[sawadeeken]

17 minutes ago, colinneil said:

27 minutes ago, Whitestarschool said:

You've not reached the finish line yet, mate. Funny how life has a way of dealing unexpected cards..you may one day be put in such a position and let's see how strong is your pride then.

 

It's called the "yets": ain't happened YET.

What a silly comment to say to a paraplegic, please keep up.

Let's hope, as a paraplegic,you are looking after your own 'Future' as this guy failed to do......... 'Salt away some money' - lots of it............ Have hospital Insurance -- Don't leave your wife responsible for a 'Heavy Debt' as this guy has done............... and 'god bless you' if you are one of the 'Good Ones' who do...............

[colinneil]

3 minutes ago, somchaismith said:

At least the tight, selfish people have come.out in this thread and highlighted themselves.

 

What utter rubbish,the only selfish person involved in this is HIM.

[Neeranam]

28 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

I paid in for 44 years and I only get £95 a week frozen at 2009 rates.

 

I am not sure of the DWP pension rules any more and how far back and at what rates they will accept contributions. Also I am not sure if he would get a full pension or a partial one.

 

To give an accurate answer you would have to know how many contributions he has made, how many years back they would let him pay and they will come up with a figure.

 

As for his weight and falling down, if he has a back back and kneecaps, getting down is hard and getting up harder still under normal circumstances, let alone after a fall.

They accept class 2 voluntary contributions now, going back 10 years. 

I'd get more than you for paying in 20 years, doesn't seem fair. However, I'll be 68 before I'd get it.

[sawadeeken]

1 minute ago, colinneil said:

What utter rubbish,the only selfish person involved in this is HIM.

 

2 minutes ago, colinneil said:

6 minutes ago, somchaismith said:

At least the tight, selfish people have come.out in this thread and highlighted themselves.

 

What utter rubbish,the only selfish person involved in this is HIM.

He was selfish thru the years and now ............. 'What goes around..... Is coming around' to him and my ONLY 'Pity' is only for the wife and child.......

[metisdead]

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[Neeranam]

9 minutes ago, colinneil said:

What utter rubbish,the only selfish person involved in this is HIM.

How is he selfish?

[colinneil]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

How is he selfish?

How is he selfish?

You have to ask a ridiculous question like that?

He is selfish because he has a wife and child, and has made no provision for them for the future, that in my book is SELFISH.

[Donotdisturb]

He looks chilled out in the pic.

[Hupaponics]

I read to page 8, than i fast forward it to here.

 

Is UK social security that bad?

For the family's sake, why not go back WITH his son to get doctors attention. As there is a child involved sure social security will provide with some housing and finance. And than start the process of getting the mother over based on here son living in UK.

Doing so I think his family will get better of if he (God forbid) passes away.

 

Pls, it's not bashing with "go home" stuff, but a plan to help his family (and himself).

When he gets beter, than the family can decide if they want to go back or stay. After 2-3 years (depending on local country laws, some have 5 years) his wife gets a permanent permit to stay.

Now he have secured his families future. However, not financially but nevertheless with a ticket to stay in Europe if they wish.

 

Couple of years ago my ego was so strong wanting to stay in Thailand that I almost put my family in "danger". Luckily i woke up from that illusion b4 it was to late. Sad to see when people don't realize that "game over" is approaching. 

 

Honestly, while we still are in god health, it's not that hard to ho back to ones home county and make a few bucks. Why wait till it's too late.

If he was alone I wouldn't care less about his choices, but he have a wife and a child to be responsible for.

I can understand the feeling of being "a loser" by retreating back home, but hey. I'm back in Thailand and stronger than ever :). No shame in that.

 

 

Edited February 17, 2018 by Hupaponics
To not missunderstand

[Letseng]

5 minutes ago, Hupaponics said:

I read to page 8, than i fast forward it to here.

 

Is UK social security that bad?

For the family's sake, why not go back WITH his son to get doctors attention. As there is a child involved sure social security will provide with some housing and finance. And than start the process of getting the mother over based on here son living in UK.

Doing so I think his family will get better of if he (God forbid) passes away.

 

Pls, it's not bashing with "go home" stuff, but a plan to help his family (and himself).

When he gets beter, than the family can decide if they want to go back or stay. After 2-3 years (depending on local country laws, some have 5 years) his wife gets a permanent permit to stay.

Now he have secured his families future. However, not financially but nevertheless with a ticket to stay in Europe if they wish.

 

Couple of years ago my ego was so strong wanting to stay in Thailand that I almost put my family in "danger". Luckily i woke up from that illusion b4 it was to late. Sad to see when people don't realize that "game over" is approaching. 

 

Honestly, while we still are in god health, it's not that hard to ho back to ones home county and make a few bucks. Why wait till it's too late.

If he was alone I wouldn't care less about his choices, but he have a wife and a child to be responsible for.

I can understand the feeling of being "a loser" by retreating back home, but hey. I'm back in Thailand and stronger than ever :). No shame in that.

 

 

How can he obtain a visa and residence for wife and kid without financial backup. Have a look at British immigration rules.

[Letseng]

58 minutes ago, XJPSX said:

A liability on society. How does he manage to stay here on a visa if he has no money. Even a marriage visa you need 400k.

 

Why do you worry about his visa? May be he has PR?

[MaeJoMTB]

4 hours ago, Lamkyong said:

how do you mean on the QT ??

No, I mean he buys a VISA (no financial requirements) from a Thai consulate Vs buying a VISA extension (all sorts of silliness required) from Thai immigration.

[MaeJoMTB]

8 minutes ago, Letseng said:

How can he obtain a visa and residence for wife and kid without financial backup. Have a look at British immigration rules.

His son is probably British, so doesn't need a VISA.

And once in the UK, as the old fellow his ill, he can get his Thai wife into the UK bypassing all the financial regulations.

[NoshowJones]

22 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

yada, yada, if you do't want to help then just shut up about it... of course you want to do a bit of virtue signalling though.

 

Some people get down on their luck because of different circumstances.

Why should he shut up about it, what are forums for? People get down for all sorts of reasons mostly through their lifestyles. But that does not apply to this poster.

[sawadeeken]

40 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

50 minutes ago, colinneil said:

What utter rubbish,the only selfish person involved in this is HIM.

How is he selfish?

He may not be selfish today, as he lies in his hospital bed, but during his 'Productive years' it is plain to see that he thought to 'only enjoy' money available and 'spend it'............ when you have somebody 'dependant on you' and you don't plan for their future........... THEN YOU ARE (WERE) SELFISH...............

[sammieuk1]

37 minutes ago, colinneil said:

How is he selfish?

You have to ask a ridiculous question like that?

He is selfish because he has a wife and child, and has made no provision for them for the future, that in my book is SELFISH.

Your book has one page and appears to start with you and end with you .

[Hupaponics]

24 minutes ago, Letseng said:

How can he obtain a visa and residence for wife and kid without financial backup. Have a look at British immigration rules

 

15 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said:

His son is probably British, so doesn't need a VISA.

And once in the UK, as the old fellow his ill, he can get his Thai wife into the UK bypassing all the financial regulations.

Thanx!

 

That was my plan, maybe I wrote it easy to misunderstand.

This is the reason to go with his son

[Chriss77]

1 minute ago, MaeJoMTB said:

 

Why worry if other people want to give him money, up to them, you just sound mean.

Yeah. I am mean, when it comes to western men who don't prepare themselves.

Someone working who doesnt get paid for FIVE MONTHS !!!!

Please, alarm bells would or should be ringing after a month.

No sympathy for this bloke.

The wife and child, yes, i feel for them. Because they have this bloated oxygen thief kickin back waiting for the bleeding hearts of this world to provide him with free money.

Work and prepare yourself like the rest of us . Pretty simple really....

[MaeJoMTB]

42 minutes ago, colinneil said:

He is selfish because he has a wife and child, and has made no provision for them for the future, that in my book is SELFISH.

Most of the world views children as an asset to work cheap and provide for them in their old age.

Your world view is very recent (last 100 years), and only used by white men.

 

I would consider your world view to be the one in error (providing free stuff for other people), as it has brought about feminism, the death of the white man in his own country and the imminent destruction of the western world.

[MaeJoMTB]

3 minutes ago, Chriss77 said:

Yeah. I am mean, when it comes to western men who don't prepare themselves.

Hatred of (fellow) white men ............. must be a name for that?

Liberal? SJW? Socialist?

Something along those lines.

Edited February 17, 2018 by MaeJoMTB