The dark, violent side of Pattaya ‘the sex capital of the world’

[lamyai3]

14 hours ago, les Dennis said:

Due to the ridiculous level of inconsistency in the laws in Pattaya, I wouldn't be surprised if the next headline I read was "double murdering American sentenced to life after being caught playing darts"

Ironically, the epicentre of the darts crackdown also happened to be Soi 6.

[dazler]

15 hours ago, balo said:

So we have a killer loose in the city, better stay sober and don't get angry if you see him. But who cares anyway , I am sure 1000's of foreigners have killed before. Then add all the local lunatics who kill for for 500 baht and we have a paradise.

Yes, a cold blooded killer on the loose in Jomtien.

 

He shot to death someone in the States over $20. And gets around wearing t shirts such as pictured in the photo "When all else fails, empty the magazine"

 

He bashed someone to death and strolls around the city without a care in the world.

 

And what is this phsyco's job? He is a paid killer. {unconfirmed, but that is what they are saying on another forum} How many others has he killed?

 

He went to prison in the States as a young fresh piece of meat. People like to go on about prison rape in Thailand. It is not that prevalent in Thai jails. Partly because of the fact there are plenty of ladyboys in there more than willing to satisfy urges. But in the States it is a given. He would have been passed around like a little love doll. But that still didn't teach him a lesson.

 

Not really good reasons to kill are they. For 20 bucks and "rescuing" a soi 6 Thai hooker who didn't need rescuing.

 

He is a danger to society, he should be locked up, not down the beach with his Hooters girlfriend.

[dazler]

14 hours ago, Fish Head Soup said:

Plenty of pictures of them together on Facebook from around August onward. Up to then she appears to have been working in Hooters.

 

 

I always thought that the idea of Hooters was that the girls have big Hooters?

[dazler]

On 2/18/2018 at 10:20 AM, Hupaponics said:

I'm afraid the evidence is already "lost"

No, that was the original story to prevent anyone from seeing it.

The new version is that the police will not be releasing it.

 

No one will see it.

It is the most crucial evidence in the case. Well, the most crucial evidence for the truth anyway.

[DILLIGAD]

Yes, a cold blooded killer on the loose in Jomtien.
 
He shot to death someone in the States over $20. And gets around wearing t shirts such as pictured in the photo "When all else fails, empty the magazine"
 
He bashed someone to death and strolls around the city without a care in the world.
 
And what is this phsyco's job? He is a paid killer. {unconfirmed, but that is what they are saying on another forum} How many others has he killed?
 
He went to prison in the States as a young fresh piece of meat. People like to go on about prison rape in Thailand. It is not that prevalent in Thai jails. Partly because of the fact there are plenty of ladyboys in there more than willing to satisfy urges. But in the States it is a given. He would have been passed around like a little love doll. But that still didn't teach him a lesson.
 
Not really good reasons to kill are they. For 20 bucks and "rescuing" a soi 6 Thai hooker who didn't need rescuing.
 
He is a danger to society, he should be locked up, not down the beach with his Hooters girlfriend.

Thanks for confirming that I must be careful as to what t-shirt slogan i wear.
I hadn’t realized it’s significance until I’d read your post.


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[dazler]

36 minutes ago, DILLIGAD said:

Thanks for confirming that I must be careful as to what t-shirt slogan i wear.
I hadn’t realized it’s significance until I’d read your post.


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I think you missed the point.

[champers]

14 hours ago, NanLaew said:

I agree. I used to hook up with a fellow offshore international gypsy when our visits to Aberdeen coincided and we would hit the pub early, while it was still quiet with reasonable, sociable drinkers who could afford a decent pint and hold a decent conversation in a decent bar. Meanwhile, somewhere in the suburbs, younger, anti-social piss-heads were loading up on 2-for-£1 specials of large cans of overproof ciders from Tesco's and bottles of discounted Mogen David from their local off-license and other stuff, intent on going, "Aff the heid" as some point later in the evening. By the time we had sunk maybe 3 pints each, it was time for a safe walk up Union Street for an Indian meal. Leaving there around 10 PM, we would beat a retreat to a strip club and lurk safely until they closed around 2 AM. Then we'd witness the eedjits out in force, puking in the gutter, lurching across the street to piss in a doorway or stick the heid in someone else. Meanwhile, the police would be parked up side streets and only come out to do mopping up after the sporadic skirmishes had passed. Latterly, after the casino opened next door to to the strip club, we could chill, drink, eat and play poker until the sun came up and the 'cooncil' workers had already hosed, the kebabs, puke and blood off the pavement.

 

Pattaya violence? Don't make me laugh.

Substitute Aberdeen for any other town or city on Friday and Saturday nights in the UK. 

If Pattaya was even remotely similar I would not have retired here.

[NanLaew]

8 hours ago, dazler said:

I think you missed the point.

With your...

 

9 hours ago, dazler said:

He went to prison in the States as a young fresh piece of meat. People like to go on about prison rape in Thailand. It is not that prevalent in Thai jails. Partly because of the fact there are plenty of ladyboys in there more than willing to satisfy urges. But in the States it is a given. He would have been passed around like a little love doll. But that still didn't teach him a lesson.

...I reckon you're well past your sell-by date.

[Hupaponics]

9 hours ago, dazler said:

No, that was the original story to prevent anyone from seeing it.

The new version is that the police will not be releasing it.

 

No one will see it.

It is the most crucial evidence in the case. Well, the most crucial evidence for the truth anyway.

As I thought than. 

The bastard left the scene to go home and fill a backpack with money and than "turn himself in". 

 

Next time he "do" someone (course he will), I hope it is from the wrong people that will "take care of him". 

[Fish Head Soup]

16 hours ago, dazler said:

No, that was the original story to prevent anyone from seeing it.

The new version is that the police will not be releasing it.

 

No one will see it.

It is the most crucial evidence in the case. Well, the most crucial evidence for the truth anyway.

Maybe someone in the Australian embassy is already holding a copy of it, and maybe the DSI in Bangkok have been informed by the Australian embassy that they have a copy of it.

 

Just maybe eh. What would I know though?

[JemJem]

Hmmmm.....since this thread has become mostly on that American killer and what Dazler has written about him being free now, I have to say that I am also quite shocked, despite the fact that we all know how often we get surprised/shocked by the Thai police and judiciary.

 

[Chrisdoc]

The reporter, if you read his article has never even been here. He wrote it from Australia.
One clue, he doesnt understand Soi means street.

In Australia they say "Is that true or did you read about it in the Murdoch Press (News Ltd)?

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[dazler]

8 hours ago, Fish Head Soup said:

Maybe someone in the Australian embassy is already holding a copy of it, and maybe the DSI in Bangkok have been informed by the Australian embassy that they have a copy of it.

 

Just maybe eh. What would I know though?

You do post as if you have some sort of insider information. But you have been wrong.

 

When I first posted on the other thread that Jose was out free you said I was lying, and that he was definitely in custody. But the photos and other witnesses proved you wrong.

 

So I dont know who you are getting your info from, I suspect {but dont know} that maybe you are getting your info from one of those farang tourist cops, and you believe what he tells you and that he simply believes what he is told by the real police.

 

 

[dazler]

On 2/17/2018 at 2:27 PM, dazler said:

There have been a lot of people on this forum declaring all sorts of claims. But it is purely just in their imagination. They dont know.

 

fact 1. the attacker is NOT in police custody. he was walking around Jomtien Beach with his girlfriend yesterday. That is a fact, some will claim "impossible'. But it is a fact.

i am not here to argue, if anyone has proof that he is in custody, then prove it, otherwise just stick to the facts please.

 

fact 2 the attacker was visiting the bar with his girlfriend who does not currently work there, and may never have. I dont know. however they are friends with people in the bar.

 

fact 3 the workers in the bar are going to stick with his version of events. They are on his side. They all didn't see a thing. Various excuses "i was in the toilet" "i was buying food" "i was too drunk, cant remember". Nobody from the bar will make a statement against the attacker.

 

fact 4 Robb, the victim, was being rough with the girl, but it was consensual. She has a heavily tattooed face. and in fact he was more on the receiving side, rather than giving. 

 

fact 5 The police are not releasing the CCTV footage to anyone, the press, the family etc

 

My opinion. The attacker previously knew the girl, didnt like what he was seeing, and approached Robb to stop. Robb was rude to him, Jose "lost it" and attacked him.

I have been told by an eyewitness that Robb was stomped on when already down. I have no reason not to believe this eye witness. But the 15 times everyone is claiming as fact, may not be true because at the time nobody was counting.

In my OPINION it was not self defense, as Rob had already stopped what he was doing before he was attacked. 

And since he is already out free, and the Thai press have reported it as "self defense" and painted him as a hero for saving a Thai woman, that he wont spend any further time in custody.

 

I have read the hundreds of opinions on the other threads. That is all they are. Opinions. The above are the facts.

He is out and about in Pattaya, so be careful everybody. He has form.

I STAND CORRECTED

 

In the original post above I stated I had no reason not to believe the girl who told me she witnessed head stomping.

 

I now strongly believe that this didn't happen, or happen enough to cause death to Ben. Hitting his head on a hard surface was claimed by some and appears to be the case.

 

I was accused of a few things for posting what I knew. The only reason I signed up was because I knew there were a lot of falsehoods.

 

And I only signed up to Thaivisa and spoke out when I learned Jose was NOT in custody, and because of a slight distrust for some of the police force, I feared that something was rotten.

 

This will probably be my last post.

Thailand is a great country to live in, but many members whinge and whine all the time. It makes me wonder why they are even here if they can not cope?  Officialdom can be a bit of a pain, but the people are great fun generally.

If you learn the language and about "face", your time here will be a lot easier. If someone has let you down, dont show anger, but just politely cause them to lose a bit of face, but be careful who to and dont overdo it. Polite questioning usually does the trick for me.

Getting angry just you makes you look like an idiot.

 

And to Jose if you are reading this, I am glad to learn Ben was not killed by head stomping, but at the end of the day your aggression and stupidly cost him his life. He is dead because of what you did, maybe it bothers you, maybe not.

[Fish Head Soup]

13 hours ago, dazler said:

When I first posted on the other thread that Jose was out free you said I was lying, and that he was definitely in custody. But the photos and other witnesses proved you wrong.

You were wrong, he is still in custody. As for 'photos and witnesses' you posted a single photo from a screen-grab of a 3 second video clip, a 3 second video which was taken of him leaving an arranged meeting with legal officials and being escorted with plain clothes police officers. That is unless you think that the other photo taken from facebook which was taken last year is 'evidence'. Your 'witnesses' were posters on other forums who were posting anecdotal evidence, one forum you were stealing supposed information from was Pattaya secrets and if this is your idea of 'witnesses' then don't give up your day job and keep sweeping those floors.

 

In conclusion, your claims were unsubstantiated. You came on here half-cocked and posting anything you could get hold of from other forums to try and make yourself look like you had some sort of understanding of what is going on, in reality you don't have a clue, and yes it would definitely be wise to make that your last post here.

 

 

7 hours ago, dazler said:

I STAND CORRECTED

 

In the original post above I stated I had no reason not to believe the girl who told me she witnessed head stomping.

 

I now strongly believe that this didn't happen, or happen enough to cause death to Ben. Hitting his head on a hard surface was claimed by some and appears to be the case.

 

I was accused of a few things for posting what I knew. The only reason I signed up was because I knew there were a lot of falsehoods.

 

And I only signed up to Thaivisa and spoke out when I learned Jose was NOT in custody, and because of a slight distrust for some of the police force, I feared that something was rotten.

 

This will probably be my last post.

Thailand is a great country to live in, but many members whinge and whine all the time. It makes me wonder why they are even here if they can not cope?  Officialdom can be a bit of a pain, but the people are great fun generally.

If you learn the language and about "face", your time here will be a lot easier. If someone has let you down, dont show anger, but just politely cause them to lose a bit of face, but be careful who to and dont overdo it. Polite questioning usually does the trick for me.

Getting angry just you makes you look like an idiot.

 

And to Jose if you are reading this, I am glad to learn Ben was not killed by head stomping, but at the end of the day your aggression and stupidly cost him his life. He is dead because of what you did, maybe it bothers you, maybe not.

Yes you're definitely losing the plot. Nobody has 'told you' anything.

[jerry921]

posers and flamers, flamers and posers, flosers and pamers, famers and losers.

[NanLaew]

14 hours ago, dazler said:

I STAND CORRECTED

 

In the original post above I stated I had no reason not to believe the girl who told me she witnessed head stomping.

 

I now strongly believe that this didn't happen, or happen enough to cause death to Ben. Hitting his head on a hard surface was claimed by some and appears to be the case.

 

I was accused of a few things for posting what I knew. The only reason I signed up was because I knew there were a lot of falsehoods.

 

And I only signed up to Thaivisa and spoke out when I learned Jose was NOT in custody, and because of a slight distrust for some of the police force, I feared that something was rotten.

 

This will probably be my last post.

Thailand is a great country to live in, but many members whinge and whine all the time. It makes me wonder why they are even here if they can not cope?  Officialdom can be a bit of a pain, but the people are great fun generally.

If you learn the language and about "face", your time here will be a lot easier. If someone has let you down, dont show anger, but just politely cause them to lose a bit of face, but be careful who to and dont overdo it. Polite questioning usually does the trick for me.

Getting angry just you makes you look like an idiot.

 

And to Jose if you are reading this, I am glad to learn Ben was not killed by head stomping, but at the end of the day your aggression and stupidly cost him his life. He is dead because of what you did, maybe it bothers you, maybe not.

 

Some flounce while others just crash and burn.

 

Horribly.

Edited February 21, 2018 by NanLaew

[balo]

Good to hear he is still in custody, a man I would not like to meet out in the streets late at night. 

[observer90210]

So finally what's the latest gossip ?  Is this fine "quality" murderer tourist, free in the fine quality worldclass resort, or not ?

[dazler]

18 hours ago, Fish Head Soup said:

You were wrong, he is still in custody. As for 'photos and witnesses' you posted a single photo from a screen-grab of a 3 second video clip, a 3 second video which was taken of him leaving an arranged meeting with legal officials and being escorted with plain clothes police officers. That is unless you think that the other photo taken from facebook which was taken last year is 'evidence'. Your 'witnesses' were posters on other forums who were posting anecdotal evidence, one forum you were stealing supposed information from was Pattaya secrets and if this is your idea of 'witnesses' then don't give up your day job and keep sweeping those floors.

 

In conclusion, your claims were unsubstantiated. You came on here half-cocked and posting anything you could get hold of from other forums to try and make yourself look like you had some sort of understanding of what is going on, in reality you don't have a clue, and yes it would definitely be wise to make that your last post here.

 

 

Yes you're definitely losing the plot. Nobody has 'told you' anything.

Ok, you got me back for one more. The only reason I joined this forum a week ago was because some of the fake claims, when I actually knew something specific to this case.

I have no interest on posting on these sort of forums, living in Pattaya with six girlfriends I honestly have better things to do.

 

I took a look at your profile and other comments. It appears to me you like to argue with people.

 

I stand by all the facts I listed as fact. As regard what I was told by the girl, I stated that I was told that but didnt list it as a fact. I dont know why she lied/exaggerated.

 I didnt list it as a fact because Jim said he didnt see head stomping either. As soon as I knew that it didnt happen, at least as significantly as was first reported and claimed by the girl I logged in to say that I was wrong about that. I have no issues admitting when I am wrong. 

 

But the five things I stated as facts are all facts. There is more footage than a three second video. Fact 5 may or may not have changed due to pressure, but was fact when I posted it.  

 

You have been told otherwise, and I believe you believe what you read somewhere else or someone has told you. 

But it isnt true. After his little visit to immigration, Jose left with his girlfriend and went to the beach unescorted.

 

Those photos you got on facebook were revealing. Well done. I wouldnt have seen that, because I dont do Facebook either. I have no interest in it, and with six girlfriends I think it would be a bad idea.

 

Apart from that you make out you "know' stuff.

You posted this last week.

 

I appreciate that. However I'm not at liberty to divulge any other information other than to say that he has been treated properly by the authorities and will remain in custody until at least the preliminary court appearance scheduled for next week.

 

 

 

So, when is this court case? Tomorrow or Friday? According to your sources that you are not at liberty to divulge?

 

Over and out.

[dazler]

3 hours ago, observer90210 said:

So finally what's the latest gossip ?  Is this fine "quality" murderer tourist, free in the fine quality worldclass resort, or not ?

Free as a bird, with a Thai bird.

[dazler]

3 hours ago, balo said:

Good to hear he is still in custody, a man I would not like to meet out in the streets late at night. 

Last time I saw him {on video} he was down the beach.

He aint in the Soi 9 lockup and he aint in Nongprue.

 

Maybe Fishhead could tell us exactly where in custody?

[dazler]

House arrest?

[Rimmer]

Some posts have been removed, can we discuss the subject please and not other members.

[mgthom63]

On 2/21/2018 at 7:40 AM, dazler said:

After his little visit to immigration, Jose left with his girlfriend and went to the beach unescorted.

 

Do you (or any of your 6 girlfriends) have any evidence for this? 

 

Pattaya News said he was not given bail but merely escorted by plain clothes officers to a meeting at immigration offices in Jomtien.

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2018/02/18/pattaya-news-week-review-feb-18-2018-jose-polanco-bail/

 

No posters to the Feb. 18th Pattaya News article  or the Pattaya 24/7 FB Feb. 16th post (where it was originally claimed that he had been bailed)  have been able to provide any substantive proof of bail, aside from a screen-shot taken near the immigration office.

 

I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibilities that he was granted bail, but was hoping you can offer up a little more in terms of proof. 

Edited February 22, 2018 by mgthom63

[jeff hard]

On 2/21/2018 at 1:44 AM, Fish Head Soup said:

You were wrong, he is still in custody. As for 'photos and witnesses' you posted a single photo from a screen-grab of a 3 second video clip, a 3 second video which was taken of him leaving an arranged meeting with legal officials and being escorted with plain clothes police officers. That is unless you think that the other photo taken from facebook which was taken last year is 'evidence'. Your 'witnesses' were posters on other forums who were posting anecdotal evidence, one forum you were stealing supposed information from was Pattaya secrets and if this is your idea of 'witnesses' then don't give up your day job and keep sweeping those floors.

 

In conclusion, your claims were unsubstantiated. You came on here half-cocked and posting anything you could get hold of from other forums to try and make yourself look like you had some sort of understanding of what is going on, in reality you don't have a clue, and yes it would definitely be wise to make that your last post here.

 

 

Yes you're definitely losing the plot. Nobody has 'told you' anything.

No, Jose is out. In Miami actually.

There will be no court case, no re enactment, no Justice.

[lamyai3]

8 hours ago, jeff hard said:

No, Jose is out. In Miami actually.

There will be no court case, no re enactment, no Justice.

Maybe Miami nightclub in Walking Street. He's definitely not in custody now though, this was corroborated in both this and the other thread. 

[Fish Head Soup]

On 2/28/2018 at 11:46 AM, lamyai3 said:

He's definitely not in custody now though, this was corroborated in both this and the other thread. 

Where?

[mgthom63]

On 2/28/2018 at 5:46 AM, lamyai3 said:

Maybe Miami nightclub in Walking Street. He's definitely not in custody now though, this was corroborated in both this and the other thread. 

Corroborated?  By a couple of posters who claim to be 'in the know'?  Neither the police or the mainstream news media has provided any such 'corroboration'.  I think the unsubstantiated claims of a couple of posters isn't quite enough to conclude that he's 'definitely' not in custody now.

[lamyai3]

51 minutes ago, mgthom63 said:

Corroborated?  By a couple of posters who claim to be 'in the know'?  Neither the police or the mainstream news media has provided any such 'corroboration'.  I think the unsubstantiated claims of a couple of posters isn't quite enough to conclude that he's 'definitely' not in custody now.

Post #125 here. I consider a personal enquiry by a regular poster here as a lot more credible than the newbies who sign up for the sole purpose of commenting.