Ya Ba use becoming rampant even among young teens, report Thai media

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Ya Ba use becoming rampant even among young teens, report Thai media

 

Picture: Sanook

 

Thai media has said that use of amphetamines or Ya Ba is becoming increasingly widespread among Thai teens.

 

Frustrated residents of a community in the Sawee area of Chumporn called in the media after police and local authorities failed to curb drug taking just 100 meters from a school's gates.

 

Sanook went to the area and found six teens smoking and plastic bottles adapted for drug taking scattered about in a secluded area near the school grounds.

 

They surmised the 13-15 year olds were skipping classes and into drug taking.

 

Residents want the media to force the authorities to take action as the scourge of drugs increasingly wreaks havoc in communities across the country, reported Sanook.

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-02-22

[hangdonger]

What a woefully vague article that is

[Bluespunk]

22 minutes ago, webfact said:

Sanook went to the area and found six teens smoking and plastic bottles adapted for drug taking scattered about in a secluded area near the school grounds.

 

They surmised the 13-15 year olds were skipping classes and into drug taking.

Hardly rampant, just assumptions  based on limited information 

[jaltsc]

"...use of amphetamines or Ya Ba is becoming increasingly widespread among Thai teens."

 

How about creating an alternative to the hopeless future of those teens? Many of them  see  only adults sitting around getting drunk all day with no hope of obtaining gainful employment. Even though drug use begins as an experiment, if it alleviates the pains that result from what they see as a hopeless life, it becomes the crutch they need to make it to the next day. 

 

The article didn't identify which gender uses the most drugs, but most likely it is the male population.  Of course, when the female culture is based on what in the west they call codependency, and they support their spouses/partners, what incentive is there for men to quit using drugs?

[Enoon]

1 hour ago, jaltsc said:

  Of course, when the female culture is based on what in the west they call codependency, and they support their spouses/partners,

 

Ease of acquiring a codependent also means 1000s of Western alcoholics flock to Thailand.

 

"Never mind the sex, just get me home, clean me up and put me to bed",  is the truth behind many of those much maligned older man/younger woman relationships.

 

But not limited to them.

 

 

 

Edited February 22, 2018 by Enoon

[anon789561]

they did a crack down about ten years ago in chumphon. police came from bkk and locked a load of people. they're all out now and off the drugs so it worked. maybe they should do it again

[DrTuner]

Well you got to take something to escape the reality of where Thailand is heading. 

[Nowisee]

Generally, for personal use, I am opposed to any war on drugs from a criminal point.
BUT, Ya Ba is a dead end game with lasting and permanent effects.
Take the time, effort and money and try something new...try public awareness and education.
Like another mentioned here... the sense of hopelessness in some kids is difficult to cope with...it could be a drunk abuse father to a useless education system.. dunno.

[steven100]

I like the Singapore & Malaysian justice system for drug users & pushers.  Also the Philippines seems to have the correct answer to clean it up,  The likes of Australia could learn a thing or two from these countries to clean up the mess that it's currently experiencing with ice users.

[steven100]

1 hour ago, jaltsc said:

How about creating an alternative to the hopeless future of those teens? Many of them  see  only adults sitting around getting drunk all day with no hope of obtaining gainful employment. Even though drug use begins as an experiment, if it alleviates the pains that result from what they see as a hopeless life, it becomes the crutch they need to make it to the next day. 

please don't try to justify druggies as oppose to drinkers.

[RichardColeman]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai media has said that use of amphetamines or Ya Ba is becoming increasingly widespread among Thai teens.

Maybe they can see no hope in any future life in Thailand. The Army owns the government, they lack a seriously good education to get in in the world and their g/f's run off with the the rich foreigner. 

[jaltsc]

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

please don't try to justify druggies as oppose to drinkers.

In case you haven't been informed yet, alcohol is the most abused drug throughout the world. Legalizing it doesn't make it less of a drug or diminish its devastating effects,  although it does give alcoholics a giant base for their sense of denial. 

[Nice Boyd]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

please don't try to justify druggies as oppose to drinkers.

Go have another beer and Pop some pills , Will you, Please

[Bill Miller]

4 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

Ease of acquiring a codependent also means 1000s of Western alcoholics flock to Thailand.

 

"Never mind the sex, just get me home, clean me up and put me to bed",  is the truth behind many of those much maligned older man/younger woman relationships.

 

But not limited to them.

 

 

 

A difference in that in most cases the older foreigners are carrying the load financialy.

[HooHaa]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

I like the Singapore & Malaysian justice system for drug users & pushers.  Also the Philippines seems to have the correct answer to clean it up,  The likes of Australia could learn a thing or two from these countries to clean up the mess that it's currently experiencing with ice users.

the philipines crack down on drug use focuses almost entirely on the poor. 

the rich are high as kites, with impunity.

however, i fully agree with you that catching the dealers and suppliers should not be the way forward - indiscriminately killing the poor end users most certainly is. 

go duterte

Edited February 22, 2018 by HooHaa
redundancy

[hansnl]

5 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

Ease of acquiring a codependent also means 1000s of Western alcoholics flock to Thailand.

 

"Never mind the sex, just get me home, clean me up and put me to bed",  is the truth behind many of those much maligned older man/younger woman relationships.

 

But not limited to them.

 

 

 

Where did you get that wisdom?

[anon789561]

5 minutes ago, hansnl said:

Where did you get that wisdom?

i think there's a bit of truth in that. i often get the girls from our local karaoke to get me home to bed. i can't do anything with them as they know my family. "i'm wasted. get me home" do that nearly every time i'm out. Mao, ow kahp bahn krub 5555

[HooHaa]

12 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

i think there's a bit of truth in that. i often get the girls from our local karaoke to get me home to bed. i can't do anything with them as they know my family. "i'm wasted. get me home" do that nearly every time i'm out. Mao, ow kahp bahn krub 5555

your thai language skills are most impressive

 

[anon789561]

Just now, HooHaa said:

your thai language skills are most impressive

 

thank you very much. i know alot more than that but that gets me home when i'm pissed 555

Edited February 22, 2018 by Happy enough

[chrisinth]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Ya Ba use becoming rampant even among young teens

 

Personally I think the jist of the OP is out of date by at least a decade as far as juvenile use of ya ba goes. While it can be said that it is increasing, the problem has been around for too long.

 

Too late for education for too many.

[Thian]

3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Maybe they can see no hope in any future life in Thailand. The Army owns the government, they lack a seriously good education to get in in the world and their g/f's run off with the the rich foreigner. 

They better see the army owning the government than riots/fires/bombs/shootings/roadblocks like it was before the army took control.

 

Yes education is bad in Thailand but they all have cellphones now and anybody can learn anything from youtube movies.

 

Thailand should promote sporting nationwide so they can be proud if they win olympic medals or world championships. It will also change their mentality of not being so selfish a lot.

[Henrik Andersen]

This is normal for Thailand to take yaba 

Thailand could learn how to deal with this problem just look of Philippines 

But drugs is a world wide problem very hard to fix this problem 

[Lungstib]

4 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Maybe they can see no hope in any future life in Thailand. The Army owns the government, they lack a seriously good education to get in in the world and their g/f's run off with the the rich foreigner. 

I think you are on the right track. Ordinary kids with average education and no "big family name" to propel them forward see nothing but poverty and hopelessness. 300b a day drudgery, all work - no play future, so they look for that chemical get away. Could be Lao Khao, cannabis, whatever. Live for the day if you see no future.

[wgdanson]

7 hours ago, Happy enough said:

they did a crack down about ten years

Good old Taksin.

[Sonhia]

Warning to all readers!

 

Chumporn is a very dangerous place, I should know, I was attacked and stabbed in the back by two kids riding a motor bike who were trying to snatch my laptop shoulder bag, on the very first night I arrived in the city, and was hospitalised!

 

One week later,  I was attacked yet again, from behind, whilst strolling for some easy exercise near the train station, very close to PAPA night club.

 

I'm not surprised, after reading this report, and would warn readers to stay away from that city. A Police officer told me, when I was in Chumporn, the city has a very high gun and knife culture, with many young gangs and that foreigners are targeted. I decided to get out of dodge city within two weeks!

 

As Thai say, " UP TO YOU"...

[Denim]

8 hours ago, steven100 said:

I like the Singapore & Malaysian justice system for drug users & pushers.  Also the Philippines seems to have the correct answer to clean it up,  The likes of Australia could learn a thing or two from these countries to clean up the mess that it's currently experiencing with ice users.

 

You would really have loved that bloke Thaksin then. He had similar ideas with his extra judicial killings that gave out free lead pellets to drug dealers.

[Henrik Andersen]

27 minutes ago, Denim said:

 

You would really have loved that bloke Thaksin then. He had similar ideas with his extra judicial killings that gave out free lead pellets to drug dealers.

I like thaksin for his ideas for fighting the drugs after he run away drugs have taken over and it is out of control now 

[ostyan]

"How about creating an alternative to the hopeless future of those teens? Many of them see only adults sitting around getting drunk all day with no hope of obtaining gainful employment. Even though drug use begins as an experiment, if it alleviates the pains that result from what they see as a hopeless life, it becomes the crutch they need to make it to the next day. "

Is this in Thailand only, or we have to face to that unfortunate thing that this is true almost every country.

Edited February 22, 2018 by ostyan

[ostyan]

"I like the Singapore & Malaysian justice system for drug users & pushers. Also the Philippines seems to have the correct answer to clean it up, The likes of Australia could learn a thing or two from these countries to clean up the mess that it's currently experiencing with ice users.



You would really have loved that bloke Thaksin then. He had similar ideas with his extra judicial killings that gave out free lead pellets to drug dealers."

Maybe, just maybe that bloke was not accepted by the main drug klans....

Edited February 22, 2018 by ostyan
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[Henrik Andersen]

45 minutes ago, ostyan said:

"How about creating an alternative to the hopeless future of those teens? Many of them see only adults sitting around getting drunk all day with no hope of obtaining gainful employment. Even though drug use begins as an experiment, if it alleviates the pains that result from what they see as a hopeless life, it becomes the crutch they need to make it to the next day. "

Is this in Thailand only, or we have to face to that unfortunate thing that this is true almost every country.

Sorry but Thai people don't want to work why you think so meny Cambodian etc coming to Thailand for do Thai jobs 

Thai people just want easy life and money fast 

But drugs is a world wide problem