1 hour ago, billd766 said:

 

Good advice from the biased Independent newspaper?

 

Never going to happen.

 

Indeed. One only has to read the caption accompanying the photo of Bojo at the start of the article to know that the article is going to be one big nothing burger of slanted opinion.

The quicker Britain goes to absolute sh1t the quicker it can be fixed and rebuilt

18 minutes ago, Jdiddy said:

The quicker Britain goes to absolute sh1t the quicker it can be fixed and rebuilt

 

 

.... it worked for Cologne, Hiroshima................. and Wembley.

Don't understand why folk here keep quoting what a newspaper writes, when  a newspaper column is usually written by a a bloke, one bloke with an opinion.

17 minutes ago, transam said:

Don't understand why folk here keep quoting what a newspaper writes, when  a newspaper column is usually written by a a bloke, one bloke with an opinion.

There's a difference between a newspaper offering an opinion on a subject and a columnist who specialises in particular field, personally, I avoid the former like the plaque. Usually, the specialist journalist who is writing a  column is somebody who has researched the subject matter and/or is sufficiently qualified, educationally and experience-wise, to offer an informed opinion. All of those things mean that the average reader doesn't have to spend several years in education, several more years gaining experience and several more years in research to get to the same point of understanding on a topic. The foregoing is particularly true of economics journalists such as Jeremy Warner, Liam Hallagan and Roger Bootle.

1 hour ago, transam said:

Don't understand why folk here keep quoting what a newspaper writes, when  a newspaper column is usually written by a a bloke, one bloke with an opinion.

It stimulates debate as seems to be the case now doesn't it?

I've just been awarded 4 "confused" by Dundee 44 on this topic; I infer he's a Brexiter?

8 minutes ago, Grouse said:

I've just been awarded 4 "confused" by Dundee 44 on this topic; I infer he's a Brexiter?

Only 4? You are not really trying, are you?

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

It stimulates debate as seems to be the case now doesn't it?

Same as "newspapers"....?  

3 hours ago, transam said:

Don't understand why folk here keep quoting what a newspaper writes, when  a newspaper column is usually written by a a bloke, one bloke with an opinion.

Which is why, where possible, I post HMGs updates instead of waiting for the media-spun version.

Hopefully, we can all agree that all media sources are biased in one way or another?

 

Which is why I do my best to 'read between the lines'/take into account the publications' preferences/pay heed to exaggerations in articles etc. etc.

 

Consequently, I don't read much in the way of media's  brexit 'informed' articles nowadays - as it's so obviously all biased opinion .

 

 

People who use the words "biased" and Balanced" seem in reality to lack true reading/comprehension skills.

Comprehension of anything worth reading involves listening to an opinion, my experience is that if a rather benighted or uninformed mind  agrees they call it "balanced" and if they don't they call it "biased", this helps those who can't actually formulate a coherent opinion or argument of their own.

 

2 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

 

 

People who use the words "biased" and Balanced" seem in reality to lack true reading/comprehension skills.

Comprehension of anything worth reading involves listening to an opinion, my experience is that if a rather benighted or uninformed mind  agrees they call it "balanced" and if they don't they call it "biased", this helps those who can't actually formulate a coherent opinion or argument of their own.

 

 

Some papers only show facts that bolster one sides opinion, they are biased, others show facts that bolster both sides of the arguments opinion, they are balanced, why would you expect a reader to be able to form an opinion from biased data?

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

I've just been awarded 4 "confused" by Dundee 44 on this topic; I infer he's a Brexiter?

Congrats, But one more might be sad!

 

3 hours ago, Grouse said:

I've just been awarded 4 "confused" by Dundee 44 on this topic; I infer he's a Brexiter?

You clearly have no standing in his eyes, I have recorded details of eighty-seven of them that he's awarded to me and before long I'm going to dump them on the moderators with a case that he's in violation of Forum Rule 7 governing stalking, so keep it up Dundee, keep it up. 

33 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

 

You clearly have no standing in his eyes, I have recorded details of eighty-seven of them that he's awarded to me and before long I'm going to dump them on the moderators with a case that he's in violation of Forum Rule 7 governing stalking, so keep it up Dundee, keep it up. 

Have you even considered that maybe he doesn't like your posts, don't get too paronoid that he is stalking you,. I have read your posts and IMO he has a very valid reason to to dislike them, or even be confused by them. ??

42 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

 

You clearly have no standing in his eyes, I have recorded details of eighty-seven of them that he's awarded to me and before long I'm going to dump them on the moderators with a case that he's in violation of Forum Rule 7 governing stalking, so keep it up Dundee, keep it up. 

Shh, Grouse will get jealous! 

41 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

 

You clearly have no standing in his eyes, I have recorded details of eighty-seven of them that he's awarded to me and before long I'm going to dump them on the moderators with a case that he's in violation of Forum Rule 7 governing stalking, so keep it up Dundee, keep it up. 

 

How pathetic. You'll also have to report the remain posters who also "stalk" you by reading all your posts and awarding you lots of likes and thanks, of course.

1 hour ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

Some papers only show facts that bolster one sides opinion, they are biased, others show facts that bolster both sides of the arguments opinion, they are balanced, why would you expect a reader to be able to form an opinion from biased data?

QED!

Which is why, where possible, I post HMGs updates instead of waiting for the media-spun version.

Isn’t that how ‘Project Fear’ came about?


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1 hour ago, simoh1490 said:

 

You clearly have no standing in his eyes, I have recorded details of eighty-seven of them that he's awarded to me and before long I'm going to dump them on the moderators with a case that he's in violation of Forum Rule 7 governing stalking, so keep it up Dundee, keep it up. 

There's no forum rule against being easily confused.  Some of the moderators would struggle... (I can see me taking a doubledecker bus to Greece for that comment)

1 minute ago, StreetCowboy said:

There's no forum rule against being easily confused.  Some of the moderators would struggle... (I can see me taking a doubledecker bus to Greece for that comment)

Being easily confused or even clinically sad is a given with many posters in this debate, the eighty-seven however are neither of those things. But it's a special sense of humour I hear you say..........indeed it is, indeed it is!

1 hour ago, Khun Han said:

 

How pathetic. You'll also have to report the remain posters who also "stalk" you by reading all your posts and awarding you lots of likes and thanks, of course.

I don't HAVE to do diddly squat! 

10 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

There's no forum rule against being easily confused.  Some of the moderators would struggle... (I can see me taking a doubledecker bus to Greece for that comment)

 

Of course we only have the media's word for it that a committee meeting even took place.

 

"The committee’s Labour chair Hilary Benn said the divisions demonstrated just how difficult achieving an agreement on Brexit will be."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-committee-transition-period-hilary-benn-jacob-rees-mogg-a8261081.html

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Shh, Grouse will get jealous! 

BTW I think it's perfectly OK for active posters to click emoticons as and when they see fit, I think however that extensive emoticon clicking alone, in lieu of ever posting, indicates a very disturbed state, sick puppy territory in fact.  

22 minutes ago, transam said:

 

Won't be able to do that so easily after Brexit

2 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

Won't be able to do that so easily after Brexit

Not with Sir. Cliff driving....

9 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

Won't be able to do that so easily after Brexit

 

Why not?

2 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

Why not?

Yes they did that in a nice warm fuzzy flick mind you, but it was still ten years or so before we joined the club

Its best to think things through before you try and score cheap points and drop yourself in it