Benelli Leoncino 500

[johng]

I could not get even 90 kms on a tank.
Useless on Phuket roads and useless for freeway as you need a gas station almost immediaty

Sounds like the The Bugatti Veyron which at top speed empties the fuel tank in 12 minutes !

[canthai55]

1 hour ago, sebastion said:

I owned a Harley sportster 48. Small tank and 1200cc's.
I could not get even 90 kms on a tank.

Tank holds 8 litre. If you can only get 11km per litre there was something wrong

As a Vespa lover no doubt that HD is not your thing

[sebastion]

Tank holds 8 litre. If you can only get 11km per litre there was something wrong
As a Vespa lover no doubt that HD is not your thing

Im talking about highway riding.
Wide open throttle would drain that thing in an hour.
Around town it was better of course but the heat and weight of it was unbearable in traffic.
I gave up big bikes as they are pretty much useless on this island.
Vespa does me fine but i barely ride. I probably do 50kms a week.

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[eisfeld]

14 minutes ago, sebastion said:

I gave up big bikes as they are pretty much useless on this island.
Vespa does me fine but i barely ride. I probably do 50kms a week.

I have to disagree with you on that one. I exclusively ride big bikes, pretty much every day and something like 40km daily on avg. During rush hours or at certain congestion points it really sucks, sure. But I still have tons and tons of fun with my bikes. I do have to admit, it's getting worse all the time though. But either way, it's all offtopic.

 

I am sure this 500cc bike would be a pretty good fit for Phuket.

[sebastion]

I have to disagree with you on that one. I exclusively ride big bikes, pretty much every day and something like 40km daily on avg. During rush hours or at certain congestion points it really sucks, sure. But I still have tons and tons of fun with my bikes. I do have to admit, it's getting worse all the time though. But either way, it's all offtopic.
 
I am sure this 500cc bike would be a pretty good fit for Phuket.

I don't consider 500cc a big bike.
Its a commuter.
Talk to me about litre bikes and you'll peak my interest.


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[eisfeld]

34 minutes ago, sebastion said:

I don't consider 500cc a big bike.
Its a commuter.
Talk to me about litre bikes and you'll peak my interest.

That's your definition then. But I doubt it matches what most people consider big bikes. Also "commuter" is rather a style/type of bike, not a class defined by engine size. You can have a 250cc commuter bike and you can have a 1200cc commuter bike. Is by your definition a Monster 821 not a big bike? BTW I currently ride a literbike (though not sports bike) around Phuket as my main mode of transport. Aaaaanyways. I think most people would cosider this Leoncino as a big bike. Maybe the definition of big bike in Thailand is if you can park it at the big bike parking area at Central? :)

[canthai55]

5 hours ago, sebastion said:

I probably do 50kms a week.

 

1 hour ago, sebastion said:

Talk to me about litre bikes and you'll peak my interest.
 

1 hour ago, sebastion said:

 

555

[papa al]

On 3/28/2018 at 4:02 PM, ardokano said:

Less range. More time for ride same dictation Its easy... Yes?;)

Can't argue with that !

;-)

[ardokano]

On 30.03.2018 at 2:55 PM, canthai55 said:

Tank holds 8 litre. If you can only get 11km per litre there was something wrong

As a Vespa lover no doubt that HD is not your thing

I o not know about Harley. But ducati diavel easy can be 9 litre per 100 km.

:).

[ardokano]

On 30.03.2018 at 1:08 PM, sebastion said:

I could not get even 90 kms on a tank.
Useless on Phuket roads and useless for freeway as you need a gas station almost immediately.

On 30.03.2018 at 3:25 PM, sebastion said:

I probably do 50kms a week.

Sorry my English very poor .. But I do not get you. Near 2 week its for you immediately?:)))

[Ks45672]

On 30/03/2018 at 1:20 PM, johng said:

Sounds like the The Bugatti Veyron which at top speed empties the fuel tank in 12 minutes !

But  the top speed is what 411+km? 

 

 

[sebastion]

Sorry my English very poor .. But I do not get you. Near 2 week its for you immediately?:)))

Im talking about my scooter riding as of now. From home to work commute is about 3 or 4 kms daily so no need for a big bike anymore.
Too heavy for traffic conditions and splitting lanes too difficult.
Got tired of all the gear i had to wear as well.

Ive had most brands of big bikes. Been through about 8 big bikes in my 12 years here.

Honda VTR 1000 SP 2 (best bike ever), Ducati 899, Ducati 1199, A few CBR1000's and one retarded Harley Davidson Sportster 48 hard candy edition(worst bike ever)
It was great to look at but not really for me. My dress style doesnt suit the Harley theme.
I rode to Krabi and Kokloi a few times and hated it. Sold with 2200 miles on it.

If i lived in Europe again I'd be all over the BMW litre bikes.
Phuket is no place for superbikes and the scooters can park anywhere without caring about it while I'm gone.

Only chance i get a big bike again is if i can locate my old SP2. Otherwise big bikes in Thailand is over for me.

The Benelli is a good looking bike for the money but it has no fun appeal. Its a commuter at best.

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[sebastion]

I o not know about Harley. But ducati diavel easy can be 9 litre per 100 km.
:).

Yes. Heavy and big capacity makes for horrible range on the highway wide open throttle.
It gave me gas station anxiety. :)

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[ardokano]

19 hours ago, sebastion said:

Im talking about my scooter riding as of now. From home to work commute is about 3 or 4 kms daily so no need for a big bike anymore.
Too heavy for traffic conditions and splitting lanes too difficult.
Got tired of all the gear i had to wear as well.

Ive had most brands of big bikes. Been through about 8 big bikes in my 12 years here.

Honda VTR 1000 SP 2 (best bike ever), Ducati 899, Ducati 1199, A few CBR1000's and one retarded Harley Davidson Sportster 48 hard candy edition(worst bike ever)
It was great to look at but not really for me. My dress style doesnt suit the Harley theme.
I rode to Krabi and Kokloi a few times and hated it. Sold with 2200 miles on it.

If i lived in Europe again I'd be all over the BMW litre bikes.
Phuket is no place for superbikes and the scooters can park anywhere without caring about it while I'm gone.

Only chance i get a big bike again is if i can locate my old SP2. Otherwise big bikes in Thailand is over for me.

The Benelli is a good looking bike for the money but it has no fun appeal. Its a commuter at best.

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RC51 nice bike. But it super bike 

 And  its not much useful for long distance. About trafficking. On 796 or 821 I had perfect filling in Phuket. Any scooter not near for ride in trafficking. And many bike can be useful in trafficking. About not 1 litre not big bike.  Funny. How about r6 600rr and many another ? Even "moped" like a duke/RC 390, R3 can be nice in city.. :) yes had filling sometimes not enough power. but this is better than a scooter. scooter is not comparable to a motorcycle. Scooter its for move from one point to another. Bike it's a pleasure. :) injoy your sp2...its sp2 or SP2s?;)

[Markc]

OP, how is the bike, any updates??

[MartinL]

On 3/17/2018 at 1:56 AM, ardokano said:

4 liter per 100km? Wow..why so few? in theory it is more than 5 liters or even 6

I hope you understand that 4 litres / 100km is a BETTER fuel consumption than 5 or 6 litres / 100 km.

 

While I'm at it, why do you insist on calling all bikes below about 400cc 'mopeds' when they're nothing of the sort. A 'moped' is simply a bike with pedal-assistance, nothing to do with engine size.

[eisfeld]

6 minutes ago, MartinL said:

I hope you understand that 4 litres / 100km is a BETTER fuel consumption than 5 or 6 litres / 100 km.

He understood that. He was surprised at the "low" (which is actually pretty normal) fuel consumption.

[MartinL]

6 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

He understood that. He was surprised at the "low" (which is actually pretty normal) fuel consumption.

Yes. Maybe I should have read through the thread in a bit less of a rush!!

[papa al]

1 hour ago, MartinL said:

Yes. Maybe I should have read through the thread in a bit less of a rush!!

...go and sin no more...

[ledi]

On 24/04/2018 at 2:17 PM, Markc said:

OP, how is the bike, any updates??

Leoncino is well! Done 2000km now. Less than 4L/100km average. I am still very happy with my choice. 

[ledi]

These Aussies seem quite happy, too with the Leoncino:

video: https://tinyurl.com/y7azrkuj

article: https://www.bikesales.com.au/editorial/details/2018-benelli-leoncino-launch-review-111994/

[ledi]

Custom rack and Givi mounted... 

[DILLIGAD]

Jesus wept.
Get a life! And the rest of you economy freaks!
What started as a half interesting topic has degenerated into a fuel consumption fest!
I've ridden motorcycles all my adult life, that's 41 years of owning and riding, and i can't ever remember having fuel consumption conversations with any of my mates about bikes we were riding. It's just not on the agenda.
You wanna fuel consumption conversation, move it to the housewive's hatchback car forum.
Jeez.

+1


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[ledi]

@DILLIGAD - hehe... just mentioned the consumption as it seems to be of concern for some. (and to me it is just useful to know when I will have to refill the juice.). Leoncino is fun to ride, doesn't feel heavy, reacts well, brakes well, and no problem so far. It is still not falling apart into pieces as some feared it would coz it's made in China. (my made-in-China iPhone still ok, too ) .

Needed a place to put my tooth brush, some socks and wifey's bottles and tubes - that's why i got the box. I also hope it will be a bit less scary for the passenger with the box behind them as it prevents them from sliding off the seat. (Will still  have to test that... too much rain at the moment). Not that I find the box very stylish - but convenient... 

Btw just read that Benelli has a 250 cc Leoncino version in the pipeline... 

[canthai55]

Why did you make the top box mount so high ?

[DILLIGAD]

@DILLIGAD - hehe... just mentioned the consumption as it seems to be of concern for some. (and to me it is just useful to know when I will have to refill the juice.). Leoncino is fun to ride, doesn't feel heavy, reacts well, brakes well, and no problem so far. It is still not falling apart into pieces as some feared it would coz it's made in China. (my made-in-China iPhone still ok, too :smile[emoji4] .

 

Needed a place to put my tooth brush, some socks and wifey's bottles and tubes - that's why i got the box. I also hope it will be a bit less scary for the passenger with the box behind them as it prevents them from sliding off the seat. (Will still  have to test that... too much rain at the moment). Not that I find the box very stylish - but convenient... 

 

Btw just read that Benelli has a 250 cc Leoncino version in the pipeline... 

Good on you, for being different. I can remember back in the ‘60’s when everyone said bikes from Japan were crap. Times change and I believe bikes from China/India will change(improve) but old habits die hard (for some)

Happy Riding.

 

 

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[Toxix APE]

Just became member to support the OP,

i bought one as well. and its a pretty nice bike.

Perfect to have fun, cheap enough that if it dies to don't give a ....dime.

 

To the OP, Good luck with your bike i hope you'll enjoy it.

 

BTW:

Thailand's own world famous Custom bike creator K-speed did a nice job on it.

Have fun 
Benelli Simba

 

 

[ledi]

@Toxix APE Thanks! And congratulations to your little Leo! Fun bike indeed! 
 

Btw: the creator of my rack (Zeus Customs) played around with a Leoncino as well.

 

@DILLIGAD Thanks Dilligad! It seems to definitely be the case that Indian and Chinese bikes are getting better - Sure they don't enjoy yet the glamour attached to Triumph or Harley, but the price tag is also very different!

 

@canthai55: Originally the rack was planned to be a bit lower - but not much - as I didn't want the tail lights to be covered (or semi-covered) for safety reasons. It turned out a bit higher at the end. Had the same thought first when I saw the finished rack - but i already got used to it. The Givi box is also very easy to remove when not needed. Will take some pictures later. The other reason I mentioned previously (pillion rider feeling like they are sliding off) -  like this, wifey can take her pillow along and place it nicely on her back and sit comfortably :) - We did a test sitting already - and once the rain stops we will go for a test ride. 

 

Anyway, this is my first big bike after many years. So it is all a bit of trial and error. But so far: the Leoncino was a good choice - its agile in BKK traffic but comfy enough for longer distances (solo), got enough oomph to leave the mob behind, engine is quite elastic, no need to constantly change gears, and feels really solid. (I plunged unprepared a while ago in the dark into a flooded lane at around 90 km/h - the Leoncino didn't budge and continued steadily and I was able to control it easily, reduce speed gently and move away).

Adjusting the handlebar slightly forward improved my riding position, and I think, box and rack came out fine, too. 

[MekkOne]

On 4/27/2018 at 4:02 AM, ledi said:

Leoncino is well! Done 2000km now. Less than 4L/100km average. I am still very happy with my choice. 

 

May I ask you about service costs? I've read in some (India) forums that Benelli service costs are elevated compared to Japanese junk.

[eisfeld]

Wait, did you call the Japanese junk in comparison to Chinese? Hah, right!