opalred Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 if you had a problem in accident or needed life saving treatment would anyone be able to help i joked with wife when she scared me i could have heart attack she said can resuscitate and pushed on right side of chest/? if needing mouth to mouth i think the garlic and chili smell would kill you anyway ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suradit69 Posted March 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) Quote anyone here know how to resuscitate ... if you had a problem in accident or needed life saving treatment ... Hard to tell what you're asking. Knowing how to perform CPR isn't likely to be of much use if it's yourself who's in need of resuscitation. Or are you compiling a list of people who do know how so that you can plan to always stay close to at least one of them? If so, it looks like JoeyG is a potential candidate. Certainly some people do know how, some people don't know but think they do, some others who do know would be reluctant to go mouth to mouth with you regardless of their skill set and others would just use their mobile phones to video your last moments in the hope that it will go viral on social media. Edited March 29, 2018 by Suradit69 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post starky Posted March 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) Yes, but so what? CPR is pretty useless for a heart attack, if that is your concern, unless you arrest. Of that's your major concern splash out an buy an AED even a child can learn their use. Also if your worried about somebody's bad breath when they are trying to save your life resus probably isn't for you. I am sure any first responder isn't going to be too excited about clearing out your filthy gob post heart attack either. Ever just thought of having the ambulance number on speed dial? Edited March 29, 2018 by starky 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Most westerners probably had to learn it when they did their driving license and maybe on other occasions as well, for example in the army So in my life i had to learn how to do it twice. If i could do it today in a stress situation? Maybe somehow, but not proficient Can Thais do CPR? If they work in the hospital / ambulance / rescue sector they are able to do it. I would assume that if they are or were in the army or police they were taught about CPR, so they can do it somehow, but not proficient. The average Thai is never taught about CPR so he/she can't do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Yes, ACLS. Study this if you want to learn what to do. https://www.aclsmedicaltraining.com/is-it-a-heart-attack-or-cardiac-arrest/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksamuiguy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 YES, took the refresher course not long ago, Thai Red Cross offers a course in CPR also. But , yes the previous poster is correct, not much good if YOU need it, yes needed for cardiac arrest as well as drowning. Good to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Here is a guide. For Emergency Services change the phone number. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I see these EMS guys going to town in the chest pumping department, but I never see them doing mouth-to-mouth or any kind of pulmonary ressucitation. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwynt Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Was taught at senior school and been to refresher since, but would happily stand aside if there was someone more experienced. Also equally would take over from someone who was clearly messing it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiWai Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I'm asuming there's gotta be a lass not to far off who can do a pump and blow at all times in this country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Gecko123 said: I see these EMS guys going to town in the chest pumping department, but I never see them doing mouth-to-mouth or any kind of pulmonary ressucitation. Am I missing something? Mouth to mouth was part of the old system taught since I was a kid. They do not use it now in Oz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 hours ago, lvr181 said: Here is a guide. For Emergency Services change the phone number. Old system. They have changed it over the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee2 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 hours ago, faraday said: Yes, ACLS. Study this if you want to learn what to do. https://www.aclsmedicaltraining.com/is-it-a-heart-attack-or-cardiac-arrest/ NO! ACLS - "advanced cardiac life support" involves using cardiac drugs, IV medications and other life-saving measures to help restart and re-establish a regular heartbeat by using an EKG monitor/defibrillator and the training required to interpret cardiac readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said: Old system. They have changed it over the last few years. And the new one is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, lvr181 said: And the new one is? They just use heart compressions. I do not know what I will do if it is ever necessary. All of my training over many years was both compressions and mouth to mouth as in your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 The new one basically does not do the mouth to mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee2 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, lvr181 said: And the new one is? You can inquire, but going by previous posters knowledge it might not be correct. Bypass all the wrong replies and Google- cpr aha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lvr181 Posted March 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2018 The basics remain the same WITHOUT the mouth to mouth. Apparently recent research has shown that mouth to mouth is not of much help and just to continue with chest compressions until patient recovers, or is defibrillated or para medics have taken control. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I did a first aid course a few years ago and a refresher 3 years ago. I'm sure things have changed some now though. Only time I ever needed such knowhow, was last year when the stepdaughters 2 year old had a button stuck in her throut. Lucky I was there and knew what to do, or I feel sure the child would not have servived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post starky Posted March 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Gecko123 said: I see these EMS guys going to town in the chest pumping department, but I never see them doing mouth-to-mouth or any kind of pulmonary ressucitation. Am I missing something? Senior first aid is constantly changing. So Yeah mouth to mouth is fairly all over. It's now 2 quick full breaths after you check the airways when you start, then just keep pumping. You can even skip the breaths if you are worried but it's still in the training. If you are working in tandem you can continue the breaths but it's now about keeping the blood circulating till help arrives. We had a guy die on us offshore we worked him for an hour and half till the chopper got to us we were unsuccessful but the most important thing is to keep going till the pros get there. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, tweedledee2 said: NO! ACLS - "advanced cardiac life support" involves using cardiac drugs, IV medications and other life-saving measures to help restart and re-establish a regular heartbeat by using an EKG monitor/defibrillator and the training required to interpret cardiac readings. Ok, No need to use capital letters & an exclamation mark. I posted the link to show the difference between the 2 events, but in error added "what to do". Hope you didn't throw a PVC or VPC, depending on your nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally3220 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I recently did my refresher course as part of my job in UK. It's 30 - 2, i.e 30 compression's and then 2 quick puffs. You are to keep doing this until professional help arrives but it's really hard, compression's have to be very firm to the point that you can break the patients ribs and to do it yourself for any length of time is extremely tiring so you have to hope you have someone to help. I also know how to use a defibrillator but I suspect they won't be available in most circumstances. Anyway here's the British Heart Foundations instructions: To learn how to perform CPR, follow these simple steps: Step 1: Shake and shout Step 2: Check for normal breathing Step 3: Call 999 Step 4: Give 30 chest compressions Step 5: Give two rescue breaths Step 6: Repeat until an ambulance arrives Remember – even if you haven't been trained in CPR with rescue breathing, you can still use hands-only CPR. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telly Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Here in Thailand you better hope you've got a thinking English speaker near you who can type apply CPR in Google. AED is a life saver for western society but not here. Stupid rules like you have to be a qualified person to use it. Limited locations like hospitals. Even nurses overall don't have much experience with an AED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, Telly said: Here in Thailand you better hope you've got a thinking English speaker near you who can type apply CPR in Google. AED is a life saver for western society but not here. Stupid rules like you have to be a qualified person to use it. Limited locations like hospitals. Even nurses overall don't have much experience with an AED. I take your point but the new AEDs are stupid easy to use I know it's thailand but they are fire and forget you only got to position 2 pads and get out the way. We have to train with them but, no offense, I find it very hard to believe a nurse wouldn't know how to use one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee2 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 hours ago, faraday said: Ok, No need to use capital letters & an exclamation mark. I posted the link to show the difference between the 2 events, but in error added "what to do". Hope you didn't throw a PVC or VPC, depending on your nationality. Then you should have Googled - CPR or BLS for correct information. Also, the medical definitions of PVC and VPC are the same and one's Nationality or Ethnicity does not change this fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Gecko123 said: I see these EMS guys going to town in the chest pumping department, but I never see them doing mouth-to-mouth or any kind of pulmonary ressucitation. Am I missing something? Yeah... thinking that the videos on the media and internet showing accident victims and the EMS team responses are showing the entire CPR rigmarole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat handler Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) No, no idea ff Edited March 29, 2018 by cat handler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, tweedledee2 said: Then you should have Googled - CPR or BLS for correct information. Also, the medical definitions of PVC and VPC are the same and one's Nationality or Ethnicity does not change this fact. Stop attempting to be clever. I was making a joke about terminology based on Nationality, as there are differences. But of course, Google told you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat handler Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 32 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Yeah... thinking that the videos on the media and internet showing accident victims and the EMS team responses are showing the entire CPR rigmarole. Lots lots use a respirator so no need to do CPR, then it’s only 2 to 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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