Muslim singer warned not to criticize the other religions

[webfact]

Muslim singer warned not to criticize the other religions

By Thai PBS

 

 

The Chularatchamontri or the Muslim spiritual leader on Wednesday (April 4) warned Muslims against criticizing other religions, saying that such criticism goes against Islamic teachings and may lead to religious conflict in the society.

 

The warning appears to direct at a Muslim singer, Veerachon “To” Satthaying , a former lead singer of the Silly Fools band, who in his March 30 Facebook talk show programme with another speaker, said Islam does not have statues representing Allah.

 

The pair went on criticising those who pay respect to sacred images. In a clip posted on YouTube today (April 4), Sheikul Islam Aziz Phitakkumpon expressed his concern over the conduct of someone “who acted as if he is a religious expert” made criticism against the other religions.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/muslim-singer-warned-not-criticize-religions/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-04-05

[simple1]

For those who don't know the OP's role in Thai society...

 

Chularatchamontri is appointed by the king upon advice of the prime minister. He has the authority to administer all Islamic affairs in the nation and to provide advice on Islamic affairs to governmental agencies.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Man, I loved (and still do) the old Silly Fools. Their songs were really catchy.

[kannot]

ALL religion needs  criticising.

[lvr181]

No more use of the word "infidels" by the Muslims? 

[InMyShadow]

So much harmony love and peace in religion.. AHAHAHAHAH

[YetAnother]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

 expressed his concern over the conduct of someone “who acted as if he is a religious expert” made criticism against the other religions.

painting islam, a form of government with an embedded religion, as tolerant of other religions is ludicrous

[stanleycoin]

Religion is the true Evil in the world. 

[scorecard]

23 minutes ago, stanleycoin said:

Religion is the true Evil in the world. 

 

Religion is one of the major evils in the world.

 

Another major evil in the world is greed for wealth.

 

 

 

Edited April 4, 2018 by scorecard

[lvr181]

9 minutes ago, stanleycoin said:

Religion is the true Evil in the world. 

If not, it runs a close second.

[ezzra]

Voice in the wilderness.... most Muslims nowadays are too radicalized and brainwashed to heed such a sage and useful advice, for them, if you're not muslim

you're not a human being, and don't even mention Israel or Jews....

Edited April 4, 2018 by ezzra

[Orton Rd]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

For those who don't know the OP's role in Thai society...

 

Chularatchamontri is appointed by the king upon advice of the prime minister. He has the authority to administer all Islamic affairs in the nation and to provide advice on Islamic affairs to governmental agencies.

Is Chula the holy one who had a temper tantrum when security tried to body scan him with a wand at the airport? didn't they know who he was!

[greenchair]

The spreading of Islam in Thailand must be done with caution. 

There's a lot said in those words. 

Buyers beware. 

[AYJAYDEE]

2 minutes ago, coulson said:

a person or thing regarded as a representative symbol or as worthy of veneration

yes. so I edit my thoughts to read "image of the prophet" my mistake

 

[coulson]

45 minutes ago, Sealbash said:

I think the black cube in the photo (Kaaba) is not any idol nor a representation of any Muslim deity or holy person. It simply marks a location to which Muslims orientate themselves for prayer. They are not worshipping the Kaaba as an idol.


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It's an iconic structure which all must face numerous times a day to submit themselves in prayer and chant God is great. Just because there is no physical idol is kind of irrelevant. 

 

Six of one, half a dozen the other.

 

The cleric was right to condemn this kind of micro aspect comparison.

 

Thai Muslims in particular face a great dispute with this particular practise which prevents them from paying respect to their Monarchs in line with Thai traditions.

 

I don't think Islam is any more or less ridiculous than any other religion, but it is especially ridiculous when you get into my beliefs and good practices are better than yours.

[jayboy]

5 hours ago, simple1 said:

For those who don't know the OP's role in Thai society...

 

Chularatchamontri is appointed by the king upon advice of the prime minister. He has the authority to administer all Islamic affairs in the nation and to provide advice on Islamic affairs to governmental agencies.

What you say about the appointment is correct and it is also correct that he advises the government on matters related to Islam and the Thai Islamic  community.However it is completely wrong that he administers all Islamic affairs in the Kingdom.There are two reasons for this.Firstly, it is inconceivable and unacceptable to a Muslim that a non Islamic source of any kind has the power to grant this responsibility.Secondly Islam does not have a tradition of an central organization providing orders/advice/moral guidance to the faithful - unlike for example the Roman Catholic Church.

Edited April 5, 2018 by jayboy

[AYJAYDEE]

7 minutes ago, jayboy said:

What you say about the appointment is correct and it is also correct that he advises the government on matters related to Islam and the Thai Islamic  community.However it is completely wrong that he administers all Islamic affairs in the Kingdom.There are two reasons for this.Firstly, it is inconceivable and unacceptable to a Muslim that a non Islamic source of any kind has the power to grant this responsibility.Secondly Islam does not have a tradition of an central organization providing orders/advice/moral guidance to the faithful - unlike for example the Roman Catholic Church.

until things go wrong and then it was the diocese that screwed up

 

[DM07]

4 hours ago, ezzra said:

Voice in the wilderness.... most Muslims nowadays are too radicalized and brainwashed to heed such a sage and useful advice, for them, if you're not muslim

you're not a human being, and don't even mention Israel or Jews....

Yadayadayada!

Most Muslims nowadays couldn't give two hot $4!t$ about this crap, because they are too busy, living a normal peaceful life among all their neighbors from all walks of life, religions, genders or sexual orientations!

 

[stanleycoin]

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Religion is one of the major evils in the world.

 

Another major evil in the world is greed for wealth.

 

 

 

Yes, Religion, Greed, and Wealth, 

They are a bit like brothers and sisters, all in the same family 

[seminomadic]

The guy's firing a shot across the bow of one of his own, warning him to be respectful. From the posts, you'd think he was warning infidels against being infidels.

 

Jeez.

[simple1]

4 hours ago, ezzra said:

Voice in the wilderness.... most Muslims nowadays are too radicalized and brainwashed to heed such a sage and useful advice, for them, if you're not muslim you're not a human being, and don't even mention Israel or Jews....

To make the above comment I would bet you have had no interaction with the day to day Thai Muslim. 

[metisdead]

Off topic trolling posts and the replies have been removed. 

[Srikcir]

1 hour ago, DM07 said:

Yadayadayada!

Most Muslims nowadays couldn't give two hot $4!t$ about this crap, because they are too busy, living a normal peaceful life among all their neighbors from all walks of life, religions, genders or sexual orientations!

 

Do you live in the southern Thai provinces?

I'm sure the insurgency would appreciate a personal audience with you.

[simple1]

1 hour ago, jayboy said:

What you say about the appointment is correct and it is also correct that he advises the government on matters related to Islam and the Thai Islamic  community.However it is completely wrong that he administers all Islamic affairs in the Kingdom.There are two reasons for this.Firstly, it is inconceivable and unacceptable to a Muslim that a non Islamic source of any kind has the power to grant this responsibility.Secondly Islam does not have a tradition of an central organization providing orders/advice/moral guidance to the faithful - unlike for example the Roman Catholic Church.

Although there would be some conservatives, we're  talking about Thai Muslim culture which is different from say Islam as practised in some Arab majority countries. e.g. there are Thai Buddhist superstitions within Thai Muslim culture, use of the Wai, respect for the highest institution in the Kingdom etc. It's like you're saying Buddhism, as practised at the day to day level in Thailand mirrors Buddha's teaching, which we know is nonsense.

[DM07]

6 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Do you live in the southern Thai provinces?

I'm sure the insurgency would appreciate a personal audience with you.

Please...go back and read the mail, I was reacting to.

Here is a part "most Muslims nowadays are too radicalized"...

 

There are Billions of Muslim in the world and maybe 10% of them are said to be "radicalized"!

Although that maybe a really high number: in what universe does 10% equal "most"?

And even "the southern Thai provinces" does not equal "most"... probably not even in Thailand!

[Srikcir]

9 minutes ago, DM07 said:

Please...go back and read the mail, I was reacting to.

Here is a part "most Muslims nowadays are too radicalized"...

 

There are Billions of Muslim in the world and maybe 10% of them are said to be "radicalized"!

Although that maybe a really high number: in what universe does 10% equal "most"?

And even "the southern Thai provinces" does not equal "most"... probably not even in Thailand!

The article is about the Chularatchamontri of Thailand warning. See Simple1 post #2 who understood this. The Chularatchamontri represents Muslim committees from 39 provinces throughout Thailand.

So thinking your were replying on topic, your reference to "most Muslims" etc. referred to Thai Muslims. Thus my response in kind.

But apparently you were off topic meaning all Muslims in the world. Sorry you were misleading.

[AYJAYDEE]

10 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

The article is about the Chularatchamontri of Thailand warning. See Simple1 post #2 who understood this. The Chularatchamontri represents Muslim committees from 39 provinces throughout Thailand.

So thinking your were replying on topic, your reference to "most Muslims" etc. referred to Thai Muslims. Thus my response in kind.

But apparently you were off topic meaning all Muslims in the world. Sorry you were misleading.

Nope! He was specifically replying to a post by ezzra , not the OP. sorry you were mistaken

[NoshowJones]

6 hours ago, kannot said:

ALL religion needs  criticising.

People should be allowed to follow any religion they want, but only if it does not interfere with anyone else.

[jayboy]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Although there would be some conservatives, we're  talking about Thai Muslim culture which is different from say Islam as practised in some Arab majority countries. e.g. there are Thai Buddhist superstitions within Thai Muslim culture, use of the Wai, respect for the highest institution in the Kingdom etc. It's like you're saying Buddhism, as practised at the day to day level in Thailand mirrors Buddha's teaching, which we know is nonsense.

You are making the wrong comparison in selecting "some majority Arab countries".The appropriate comparison would be with the Muslim Malays across the border with whom of course they have been united over long stretches of history.Of course on the Thai Muslim side there have been various influences - often imposed by force - of the dominant Bangkok regime.The examples you give I suspect are rather superficial and would rapidly disappear in the event of self-rule/independence.

[simple1]

27 minutes ago, jayboy said:

You are making the wrong comparison in selecting "some majority Arab countries".The appropriate comparison would be with the Muslim Malays across the border with whom of course they have been united over long stretches of history.Of course on the Thai Muslim side there have been various influences - often imposed by force - of the dominant Bangkok regime.The examples you give I suspect are rather superficial and would rapidly disappear in the event of self-rule/independence.

Disagree. However, to my knowledge conservative Muslim Malays are in the minority, with to date only one Province under such structure. The examples I gave are not superficial, deeply embedded day to day practices.

 

Many so called insurgents in the deep South practise the occult and take drugs, which is forbidden in Islam, plus a revolt that is more ethno nationalist than driven by conservative Islam, though it appears to be slowly changing over time. You know what many claim? insurgency is ongoing as too much self interest served due to corruption & collaboration by all sides - sound like fanatical conservative Muslims? - No. Some interesting reading...

 

http://www.defence.gov.au/ADC/Publications/Shedden/2012/SheddenPapers12_120306_ConflictinThailand_Nurakkate.pdf

Edited April 5, 2018 by simple1