stevenl Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 " at the Immigration in Lamphun they said to me that they will cancel my Visa also and I have to leave Thailand (at the same date - 25 April): actually I just got the information 15 min ago (about the cancellation date of my WP...) " Something strange here. I would like to know who gave the information about the cancellation on the 25th to whom and when did he/she give this information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 15 hours ago, markaoffy said: He can have a visa and a workpermit! A visa cannot be cancelled by an employer. It will have an expiry date Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect He received the visa/ extension of stay from his employer because he was working. Once the workpermit is cancelled, the visa becomes invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, stevenl said: " at the Immigration in Lamphun they said to me that they will cancel my Visa also and I have to leave Thailand (at the same date - 25 April): actually I just got the information 15 min ago (about the cancellation date of my WP...) " Something strange here. I would like to know who gave the information about the cancellation on the 25th to whom and when did he/she give this information? Perhaps somebody from the Immigration in Lamphun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 As the OP has two years extension and WP it's a BOI company. He therefore gets automatic 7 days extension to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 if he were married to a thai , he could apply for a 60 days extention to visit his wife. wbr roobaa01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat handler Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Your work permit and visa are cancelled, you have 7 days to leave the Kingdom or risk being arrested, detained and charged with visa violations. I would suggest leave and re-enter on a tourist visa or VOA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewilltell Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, jenny2017 said: He received the visa/ extension of stay from his employer because he was working. Once the workpermit is cancelled, the visa becomes invalid. I don't think that is right. The extension based on work would be cancelled but I am pretty sure the non-B can be used to apply for an alternative extension if the OP satisfies the requirements for whatever extension he complies with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, timewilltell said: I don't think that is right. The extension based on work would be cancelled but I am pretty sure the non-B can be used to apply for an alternative extension if the OP satisfies the requirements for whatever extension he complies with As far as I know, he'd need new paperwork, because a two year visa/extension of stay was issued for his former job. His last day at work was also the day when his visa to stay became invalid. If he'd like to leave the country, the Immigration could send him to his ex- employer to get a letter when his last day was, plus overstay. He'd have to start over again...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, PoorSucker said: As the OP has two years extension and WP it's a BOI company. He therefore gets automatic 7 days extension to leave. The 7 days are gone already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onera1961 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, jenny2017 said: Once the workpermit is cancelled, the visa becomes invalid. If he has a multiple entry unexpired visa, it is still valid to enter Thailand. He can go out and in. Edited May 3, 2018 by onera1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: The 7 days are gone already. It's gone long time ago for non BOI companies. Do you have a source that they taken that away for BOI companies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, onera1961 said: If he has a multiple entry visa, it is still valid to enter Thailand I wouldn't bet on that. The re entry permit shows multiple, but it's a two year extension and it was issued because the OP worked for somebody. If the work permit is cancelled, it might cause huge problems, including overstay. I haven't seen other two year visas before, so it would be good to find out how that ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onera1961 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, jenny2017 said: If the work permit is cancelled, it might cause huge problems, including overstay. If he has a multiple entry unexpired visa, he can go out of the country and enter immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 36 minutes ago, PoorSucker said: It's gone long time ago for non BOI companies. Do you have a source that they taken that away for BOI companies? I think he is saying the 7 days since cancellation are up already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 32 minutes ago, onera1961 said: If he has a multiple entry unexpired visa, he can go out of the country and enter immediately. There might be tax issues, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 49 minutes ago, PoorSucker said: It's gone long time ago for non BOI companies. Do you have a source that they taken that away for BOI companies? I meant the 7 days are gone for the OP already as the original extension stopped at 25th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said: I meant the 7 days are gone for the OP already as the original extension stopped at 25th The permit to stay doesn’t end until immigrantion end it. It should be ended on the day the employment ends (WP end date is irrelevant), but it will be up to immigration what date they choose use. If they back date the cancellation to the date employment ended, they could charge for overstay. Given the nature of the extension I would expect them not to back date the cancellation, and give him 7 days to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, jenny2017 said: There might be tax issues, etc... How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 hours ago, jenny2017 said: Once the workpermit is cancelled, the visa becomes invalid. No visa is invalidated when a WP is cancelled. A permit to stay based on working should be cancelled on the last day of employment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Jean Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Always so much confusion about visa, permission to stay and work permits. Just think of it like this: a VISA is only used TO ENTER Thailand A permission to stay is only used to STAY in Thailand. An EXTENSION to stay is only used to EXTEND your stay in Thailand. A WORKPERMIT is only to allow you to WORK in Thailand. A RE-ENTRY permit allows you to enter Thailand without a valid visa and your permission to stay is used instead. Now that was not to difficult. So when your work is finished (job done, fired, stopped etc) then your workpermit is cancelled. So you are not allowed to work anymore. IF the permission to stay was based on that then that also is cancelled. The VISA however stays valid until expire date. It is all connected, but ...... they are also all separate. The OP showed a RE-Entry permit that allows multiple re entries and a permission to stay. There is no picture of the VISA. As there is a RE-ENTRY permit given based on the permission of stay i would say that the VISA used to enter the country had only one entry. But that is not sure as a RE-ENTRY permit is also issued to keep the permission of stay valid. So check your VISA. If it is expired or only allowed a single entry then get to an embassy (Savannakhet is OK) to get a new VISA. What kind depends how old you are (50+ can also have retirement visa) or married with a Thai (marriage visa). Otherwise a tourist visa. Or just go back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 4 hours ago, elviajero said: The permit to stay doesn’t end until immigrantion end it. It should be ended on the day the employment ends (WP end date is irrelevant), but it will be up to immigration what date they choose use. If they back date the cancellation to the date employment ended, they could charge for overstay. Given the nature of the extension I would expect them not to back date the cancellation, and give him 7 days to leave. Expecting doesn't do the job, he should get an valid visa asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass60 Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Updates & Thanks Thanks to all for the brainstorming. Here the full story: Seen that I have been fired on 25 April, and my permission to stay was connected to the WP, on 27 April I have been at the Immigration with the HR manager of the company: there, a zealous officer told us that he cant cancel the stay if we don't show an official document from some strange office (IEAT) for the final confirmation of my WP cancellation. For some strange reason I received that document on yesterday: then, at the immigration they told me that I was already in overstay and actually at risk to go in prison bla bla. So, today I had to fly in Malaysia and Im coming back right now with my fresh 30 days of stay permission (because they told me that after 7 day I can't anymore just pass a border but I have to go away and come back by flights!). Now, I don't want comment those facts further, seen that after 12 years in Thailand I should know where I am living.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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