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18 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Good comment!

I see from time to time YouTube videos about Nana, Cowboy, etc. And the new arrivals still can't believe how good it is - similar to my experience more than 20 years ago.

When I arrived in the land of smiles I though almost all girls are pretty. Now I think maybe 10% of them are according to my taste. But I pretty sure that even one of the average Nana girls would be a stunner compared to what's available "back home".

I am sure lots of things really changed. But a big part is also what we remember from the time when we were young(er) and the first time in Thailand.

Having last been in Pattaya, I was impressed by how good looking most of the dancers were in Nana. Most were at least an 8 out of 10, and quite a few 10s around as well.

What was conspicuous by their absence were ugly girls, fat girls and those with stretch marks. In Pattaya, those were in abundance. Which is not to say that I dislike Pattaya, but the standard of girl's beauty has decreased significantly since the 90s, there.

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23 hours ago, coxo said:

I agree with the poster also, it seemed to go downhill with the English in the late 90's when there pound was strong, they threw money around and the price trebled in six months, with that the girls bad attitude started and it never recovered to the good old days.

As far as music go's I am always amazed when in a gogo, you look around and the age of punters is say 50 to 70 yet the play doff doff music, they dont seem to read the age group and play appropriate music, can't say it bothers me much as I avoid the place now and have done for years...

I disagree that the English caused the problem by spending too much. IMO it was caused by Purachai's assault on the farang bar scene. He did more to destroy it that any man before or since, and it's never recovered from his destruction.

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16 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I can't believe you actually know much about the scene. They just do it for the money, and care not for looks. It has always been so. Do you imagine that Hugh Heffner's young girlfriends thought he was sexy in his last days?

If a hooker is "distressed" by loose skin, she is in the wrong occupation.

for the same money, would you rather shag a 30 yo stunner or a coffin dodger,

or would you be indifferent ?

they make good money on shagging coffin dodgers too,

but to keep their sanity they have the wits to shag a younger performer once in a while,

and are willing to pay for it, so as to not get permanently turned off

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1 hour ago, poanoi said:

for the same money, would you rather shag a 30 yo stunner or a coffin dodger,

or would you be indifferent ?

they make good money on shagging coffin dodgers too,

but to keep their sanity they have the wits to shag a younger performer once in a while,

and are willing to pay for it, so as to not get permanently turned off

Are you sure about that?

Obviously not all girls are the same but at least some girls see the options like this:

  • Go with an older guy and be nice to him and have sex for 20 minutes and it's done.
  • Go with a young guy who is active for an hour and he insists on "making her happy" . And then he does the same again in an hour and to be sure again in the morning.

Now which of these options do you think girls, who do that job to make money, prefer?

And if she is horny she will find a young Thai guy in a karaoke place to make her happy - under her conditions.

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9 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Are you sure about that?

Obviously not all girls are the same but at least some girls see the options like this:

  • Go with an older guy and be nice to him and have sex for 20 minutes and it's done.
  • Go with a young guy who is active for an hour and he insists on "making her happy" . And then he does the same again in an hour and to be sure again in the morning.

Now which of these options do you think girls, who do that job to make money, prefer?

And if she is horny she will find a young Thai guy in a karaoke place to make her happy - under her conditions.

yes, that is possible, but i also know of a girl that went with a very wealthy

and very old thai man, the coffin dodger in question had taken his viagra

in due course, and couldnt get an orgasm, eventually after 3* hours

she was so fed up so she rushed out and gave up on the money,

she couldnt stand it any longer

 

*3 hours may or may not have been her own exaggeration, but its her story not mine,

and i sure know less than her of this case

 

one thing i suddenly remember was sitting in a go-go bar,

a young white punter had barfined a hooker,

but after that he didnt proceed to go to his room,

instead he felt it necessary to start dancing in front

of her for 15 minutes, they thai guys serving drinks were as perplexed as myself at the phenomena

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15 hours ago, tropo said:

LOL> how can anything be as good as it was - most of us are old men now. You'd have to be if you were punting in the 80's and 90s.

 

From a personal point of view, bars and bar hopping soon got old for me. I hit it hard for a year or so and got over it... and that had nothing to do with the experience deteriorating as it was still prime time.

Try the 60's and 70's my man. By the 80's and 90's I had 20-30 years at it. Things can be close to what they were, it just costs more and there are fewer opportunities for their occurrence. 

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23 hours ago, sanemax said:

I just do not see the enjoyment factor about hanging out with prostitutes and buying them drinks , just sit their listening to their lies with the knowledge that shes only there with you for financial gain

Some are pros and the enjoyment a pro can bring you cannot be replicated by very few women IMO. Not all women are the same. Let your mind and logic go and have some fun.

 

 Sadly IMO the pros are moving to the internet from the clubs so they are harder to find and internet more hit and miss. But in the old days you saw certain girls were popular and busy and were favorites. They also might cost a little more and some guys are turned off seeing their favorite with another man. But give me one night with a pro compared to 7 nights with missionary Susan and give me one night with a pro compared to a lifetime with a women who dislikes sex and costs a fortune in divorce. Cheers man as you are not alone in your opinion but I was very lucky to have a few pros at Nana plaza and hard for me to settle for less now. 

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47 minutes ago, Wake Up said:

Some are pros and the enjoyment a pro can bring you cannot be replicated by very few women IMO. Not all women are the same. Let your mind and logic go and have some fun.

 

 Sadly IMO the pros are moving to the internet from the clubs so they are harder to find and internet more hit and miss. But in the old days you saw certain girls were popular and busy and were favorites. They also might cost a little more and some guys are turned off seeing their favorite with another man. But give me one night with a pro compared to 7 nights with missionary Susan and give me one night with a pro compared to a lifetime with a women who dislikes sex and costs a fortune in divorce. Cheers man as you are not alone in your opinion but I was very lucky to have a few pros at Nana plaza and hard for me to settle for less now. 

I suppose that if you only had two choices between a wife who doesnt like sex and a prostitute who does like sex, the latter would be the better option

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On 5/5/2018 at 8:50 PM, quandow said:

Same thing with Soi 6 Pattaya. When I first got here in 2006, calls of "Handsome man" floated dreamily through the air. Now, it's nothing but sour looking tubbies swiping their cell phones in dismal boredom.

Been there the past 2 nights not even close to your description.

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14 hours ago, poanoi said:

i still cant see for the life of me how dating a thai girl going to translate into a better party

than being surrounded by a bunch of naked thai girls all the while i get drunk

Well then, Nana is most certainly the place for you.

Go enjoy.

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7 minutes ago, poanoi said:

i still cant see for the life of me how dating a thai girl going to translate into a better party

than being surrounded by a bunch of naked thai girls all the while i get drunk

That's what i thought. I'd already paid the bar fine and gave her 3 K and off to my hotel. But her thingy was longer than mine!!

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14 hours ago, somtamjames said:

That's what i thought. I'd already paid the bar fine and gave her 3 K and off to my hotel. But her thingy was longer than mine!!

Funny.

Nana is definitely full of LB. 

I don't care what people do I always find it interesting the bashing of LB when in fact there is a big market for their company.

See more younger guys with them then I remember.

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1 hour ago, sanemax said:

I suppose that if you only had two choices between a wife who doesnt like sex and a prostitute who does like sex, the latter would be the better option

Yes and that is the choice of a lot of guys but after having the pros the wife would have to be really good in the sack or it would not work.  

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31 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Nana still gets a pretty good drinking crowd

 

The best place by far to meet girls in Bkk now is the dating sites.  1000' s of girls looking for company.

And how many of them look very different in real compared to what they advertise?

 

I like gogo bars. You can see how they look, you can see how they move, and you can talk to them before you take them out. Worst case the money for a drink is wasted.

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5 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Funny.

Nana is definitely full of LB. 

I don't care what people do I always find it interesting the bashing of LB when in fact there is a big market for their company.

See more younger guys with them then I remember.

I didn't make fun of them. I'd already paid and she did a good job, I a sort of understand why they are so famous. But please don't tell my wife about it. 

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Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

And how many of them look very different in real compared to what they advertise?

 

I like gogo bars. You can see how they look, you can see how they move, and you can talk to them before you take them out. Worst case the money for a drink is wasted.

I agree. But the gogos are not getting their share of the beauties who prefer no boss, work when they want and don’t have to drink every night.  I prefer gogos also just lament the decline in numbers of attractive womenin gogos. 

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6 minutes ago, sanemax said:

A few Viagra usually makes it work

Oh my you have no idea. I used to think the same way until a couple of Nana women taught me about sex and fun. When I hear guys (not you) slam bar girls I think maybe I just got lucky as I would not trade those experiences for anything.  Some bar girls are bad, some good and a few great. Same as all professions and walks of life.  Cheers man you are happy and I am happy and good for us both. 

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Having last been in Pattaya, I was impressed by how good looking most of the dancers were in Nana. Most were at least an 8 out of 10, and quite a few 10s around as well.
What was conspicuous by their absence were ugly girls, fat girls and those with stretch marks. In Pattaya, those were in abundance. Which is not to say that I dislike Pattaya, but the standard of girl's beauty has decreased significantly since the 90s, there.
There are some lovely looking girls at the NEP gogos. Also some stunning ladyboys particularly in Obsessions and Temptations.

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45 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And how many of them look very different in real compared to what they advertise?

 

I like gogo bars. You can see how they look, you can see how they move, and you can talk to them before you take them out. Worst case the money for a drink is wasted.

There is a modern technology called video call......

 

I have never had a decent conversation in a Gogo because of the extremely loud noise and music.

But if that is your avenue to meet girls, no problem it is all about what one enjoys best.

 

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36 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Also some stunning ladyboys particularly in Obsessions and Temptations.
 

 

Hardly surprising seeing as both of those places have always been 100% ladyboy bars. 

  

 

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3 hours ago, Wake Up said:

I agree. But the gogos are not getting their share of the beauties who prefer no boss, work when they want and don’t have to drink every night.  I prefer gogos also just lament the decline in numbers of attractive womenin gogos. 

I don't know how common it is but in some of the gogo bars the girls can work "freelance". When they work they get paid and if not then not.

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10 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That obviously brings up the question: Why are you here?

I assume you're having your own little joke.  Not everyone yearns for the good ole days of a night in Nana.  Most have grown up and moved on.  The rest weren't interested anyway.

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3 hours ago, sanemax said:

So, you had to visit prostitute to learn about sex ?

What did they teach you ? ( I am just wondering whether there is something that I dont know )  

Cost you 2500 baht for the first lesson same as I  paid.

 

Yes you think you know sex until some beautiful girls without inhibitions show you what you have been missing. I have been in your shoes and nothing I say can or will change your mind so I am bowing out of the discussion. Hopefully one day Nan or Pom or Pim or Paa or all four at the same time blows your mind for you and teaches you how to be pleasured properly and how to properly pleasure a women and becomes one of your favorites and regulars. Wham bam thank you ma’am is highly overrated. 

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