webfact Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Republican House Speaker says Trump shouldn't pardon himself By Amanda Becker and Richard Cowan U.S. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan speaks to reporters at an enrollment ceremony for several House bills on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., May 24, 2018. REUTERS/Toya Sarno Jordan WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan said on Wednesday that President Donald Trump should not pardon himself, becoming the second Republican leader in Congress to balk at the president's assertion that he had "absolute" power to do so. Ryan also dismissed another of Trump's contentions - that the FBI and Justice Department planted an informant in his 2016 presidential campaign. He said he agreed with the assertion by U.S. Representative Trey Gowdy, the Republican chairman of the House Oversight Committee, that federal authorities had acted properly. "I think Chairman Gowdy's initial assessment is accurate, but we have more digging to do," Ryan said. Ryan, who is not seeking re-election, had a strained relationship with Trump during the campaign but has avoided taking a confrontational approach with him since he took office. Asked whether Trump can legally pardon himself, Ryan told reporters at the U.S. Capitol: "I don't know the technical answer to that question but obviously he shouldn't. No one is above the law." Trump made the pardon assertion in a series of Twitter posts on Monday in which he criticized federal Special Counsel Robert Mueller's criminal probe of whether his 2016 presidential campaign colluded with Russia to sway the election. "As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?" Trump said. In another tweet he called Mueller’s appointment “totally UNCONSTITUTIONAL.” The comments came as Mueller’s investigation, which includes possible illegal obstruction of the Russia probe by the president, entered its second year. Trump denies he colluded with the Russians or obstructed justice and calls Mueller's investigation a "witch hunt." On Tuesday, the Senate's Republican leader, Mitch McConnell, also discouraged talk of a self-pardon by Trump. "Let me just tell you that from - from my perspective - I don't think the president needs any advice on pardoning himself," McConnell said. "He obviously knows that would not be something that he would or should do." Trump's suggestion that he could legally pardon himself followed a New York Times report on Saturday that his personal lawyers argued in a memo to Mueller that the president could not have obstructed justice because he has vast authority over all federal investigations. In an interview with Reuters on Sunday, Trump lawyer Rudolph Giuliani played down the possibility of a Trump self-pardon. "He’s not going to do it. He’s not going to pardon himself. If he did, he’d be impeached so fast," Giuliani said. (Reporting by Richard Cowan, Amanda Becker, Susan Cornwell, Karen Freifeld; Writing by Doina Chiacu; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama and Dan Grebler) -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-06-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emster23 Posted June 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 Trump does many things he "shouldn't do". A few cautious words from Ryan will have zero impact on what Trump does. Perhaps if the feckless Republicans showed some spine he might pay a little heed, but that is unlikely 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted June 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 hours ago, webfact said: "As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?" Trump said. In another tweet he called Mueller’s appointment “totally UNCONSTITUTIONAL.” Let's merge these two Trumpian effluvia into one that is palatable: "The absolute right to PARDON myself is totally UNCONSTITUTIONAL." 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted June 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 There is little chance Tiny D. will pardon himself. It would cause a constitutional crisis, that would no doubt lead to his impeachment. As dumb, and tone deaf as this charlatan huckster is, even he must realize that. But, one can only hope. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunFred Posted June 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) A rare lucid moment for Ryan. I really wish Trump would do this, though. The firestorm it would bring down on him would echo throughout history. The presidency is nothing more than another reality show for Trump. He honestly thinks he is CEO of the United States and his word is law. The opprobrium that this will bring upon the Republican Party is going to be a joy to see in the mid-terms. He's got a be a one-termer, but that's what I thought about GW Bush. Voters in the USA are appallingly gullible and will hitch their wagon to any shyster who can produce enough flash and cash to buy off the system. Edited June 7, 2018 by KhunFred correction 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Emster23 said: Trump does many things he "shouldn't do". The statement from House Majority Speaker and 3rd in line of presidential succession is to my recall only the second time he has said something Trump should not do. The first is that Trump should not fire Attorney General Sessions. And thus far, Trump has not fired Sessions despite his repeated public complaints. Impeachment begins in the House. Proceedings would be organized by Ryan. So it does seem he has shown a glimmer of a spine rather obfuscate his response, especially with his additional comment that "no one is above the law." The latter directly contradicting Trump's TV counsel's position. If Ryan was running for re-election, he probably would have been as spineless as other Republican congressmen not up for re-election. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expatthailover Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Pardoning the inexcusable. One can only imagine the amount of crooks, hucksters and assorted n'ere do wells who are going to be pardoned when this creep leaves office. Edited June 7, 2018 by Expatthailover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Think about it - IF the president can pardon himself of any crime, then VP Pence could shoot Trump dead, immediately become president, and as his first official act pardon himself of the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, quandow said: Think about it - IF the president can pardon himself of any crime, then VP Pence could shoot Trump dead, immediately become president, and as his first official act pardon himself of the crime. The combinations and permutations of this insanity are endless... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Expatthailover said: Pardoning the inexcusable. One can only imagine the amount of crooks, hucksters and assorted n'ere do wells who are going to be pardoned when this creep leaves office. He'll probably hold an auction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Temporary backbone installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Why not ? I often do things to please and pardon myself, and it comes out fine !! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 15 hours ago, quandow said: Think about it - IF the president can pardon himself of any crime, then VP Pence could shoot Trump dead, immediately become president, and as his first official act pardon himself of the crime. Brings to mind a SE Asian country that experienced a coup, aka treason, then immediately pardoned themselves. Can't seem to remember where.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Oh, come on Paul! Why would he have to pardon himself anyways? He is as clean as freshly fallen snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now