transam Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: It is the law, nothing else, there is no moral involved. Why is it the law...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, transam said: Why is it the law...? Because its easier than each and every person providing evidence that they have the money, but if they do that is all that matters morally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Kieran00001 said: Because its easier than each and every person providing evidence that they have the money, but if they do that is all that matters morally. Good grief man, it is the law to protect against chancers like yourself, members of the "It won't happen to me" club... In LOS insurance is cheap yet those who purport to have a huge bank accounts will risk lots of payout cash to save a little..Cheap skates.. Just for you a true story.. Two twelve year olds tearing around on a bike, they crash into an innocent guys motor, one dead, one with broken bones... Will give you ONE guess who paid the families of the kids...One guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, transam said: Good grief man, it is the law to protect against chancers like yourself, members of the "It won't happen to me" club... In LOS insurance is cheap yet those who purport to have a huge bank accounts will risk lots of payout cash to save a little..Cheap skates.. Just for you a true story.. Two twelve year olds tearing around on a bike, they crash into an innocent guys motor, one dead, one with broken bones... Will give you ONE guess who paid the families of the kids...One guess... I am pretty sure I already said that I am replying to a comment made about another poster rather than defending my personal position, I have insurance, as does the poster who was called a bad person, so either read the whole thread before commenting or at least keep your personal attacks to yourself unless you know what you are talking about. Anyway, what 'protection' does insurance bring to someone who has a lot more money than the pittance the Thai insurance pays out? I say, up to them if they want to risk their own money, just as long as they actually have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchega Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I wou8ld really like to have an insurance that covers me for when dickwads drive into me if they are on a bike, bicylce or just jump off a bridge to attack my car. absolutly ridiculous for crappy drivers to not be held accountable. On this basis I would like the brit invovled to claim he was too drunk to know he was drunk and about to fall asleep. statistically I would prefer a lot more drivers to be involved in fatality driving incidents, bikers, cyclists, cars, trucks it would all help my journeys so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 12 hours ago, Kieran00001 said: Insurance is a piece of paper that says that the money is there to pay a claim, those who have the money have no reason for insurance. As I said SCUMBAGS As for those who agree with or advocate doing it I think that I had best leave that alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Kieran00001 said: I am pretty sure I already said that I am replying to a comment made about another poster rather than defending my personal position, I have insurance, as does the poster who was called a bad person, so either read the whole thread before commenting or at least keep your personal attacks to yourself unless you know what you are talking about. Anyway, what 'protection' does insurance bring to someone who has a lot more money than the pittance the Thai insurance pays out? I say, up to them if they want to risk their own money, just as long as they actually have it. You are defending driving without insurance dont you realise that You are no better than the uninsured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 55 minutes ago, oldlakey said: You are defending driving without insurance dont you realise that You are no better than the uninsured I am defending the right to self insure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: I am defending the right to self insure. I am well aware of what you are doing, but that option does not exist as far as I am concerned I do not trust that kind of lying scumbag You are either insured or you aren't How do you view stopping at red lights do you comply with that one or do you advocate self insuring for that as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldlakey said: I am well aware of what you are doing, but that option does not exist as far as I am concerned I do not trust that kind of lying scumbag You are either insured or you aren't How do you view stopping at red lights do you comply with that one or do you self insure for that as well I don't need to stop for lights because I have rosary beads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Kieran00001 said: I don't need to stop for lights because I have rosary beads. I will stay in your slipstream then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 On 6/10/2018 at 6:53 AM, catman20 said: if that was the case why is not a no alcohol ban for anyone driving ? In some countries there is. You realise that what you said isn't actually an argument. Governments, especially Thailand, are not the yardsticks for the effects of alcohol. The science will tell you that even a small beer or a single glass of wine is enough to impede anyone's driving abilities. What is so worrying is that you, along with a few others don't seem to know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 11 hours ago, Kieran00001 said: I am defending the right to self insure. How will you do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 21 hours ago, Kieran00001 said: I am pretty sure I already said that I am replying to a comment made about another poster rather than defending my personal position, I have insurance, as does the poster who was called a bad person, so either read the whole thread before commenting or at least keep your personal attacks to yourself unless you know what you are talking about. Anyway, what 'protection' does insurance bring to someone who has a lot more money than the pittance the Thai insurance pays out? I say, up to them if they want to risk their own money, just as long as they actually have it. So how do you make sure they "actually have it" and that an appropriate sum will be made aavailable? Perhaps some kind of certificate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, kwilco said: So how do you make sure they "actually have it" and that an appropriate sum will be made aavailable? Perhaps some kind of certificate? If they have it and have an accident then they produce the money, if they don't then they go to prison, up to them in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 7 hours ago, kwilco said: In some countries there is. You realise that what you said isn't actually an argument. Governments, especially Thailand, are not the yardsticks for the effects of alcohol. The science will tell you that even a small beer or a single glass of wine is enough to impede anyone's driving abilities. What is so worrying is that you, along with a few others don't seem to know this. when i go out for an evening i only have 1small beer all night followed by about 6 or 7 bottles of soda water and im NOT surprised it has no effect on my ability to drive and if that impaired your driving ability people like you should not be allowed to drive period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 11 hours ago, kwilco said: So how do you make sure they "actually have it" and that an appropriate sum will be made aavailable? Perhaps some kind of certificate? Yes I like that my man well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 11 hours ago, Kieran00001 said: If they have it and have an accident then they produce the money, if they don't then they go to prison, up to them in my opinion. Thats not a lot of help for the innocent parties is it I really cant understand your thinking on this the word backward springs to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheard Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Driving drunk, with no license, so probably no insurance either then? Thai, or Expat, that is wrong and deserves punishment. Everyone needs to wake up and accept you just cant do this anymore. It is not acceptable behaviour.No "probably" about it. No insurance company is going to payout if you don't have a licence. Sent from my E5823 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 One beer can impair your ability, I learned that playing chess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 57 minutes ago, oldlakey said: Thats not a lot of help for the innocent parties is it I really cant understand your thinking on this the word backward springs to mind I do not support those without the money not having insurance and in what way are those with the money and who are willing to pay not a help to the innocent party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: I do not support those without the money not having insurance and in what way are those with the money and who are willing to pay not a help to the innocent party? You support the right to self insure which is backward thinking to say the least If only everybody was honest about their intentions but when it comes to the crunch Plenty of money is paid out to avoid entering the " justice " system but thats rather a different matter What you are advocating is a recipe for more stress for anybody involved in a incident Then of course why would a sensible honest person risk having to pay out far more than even a very good insurance policy premium would cost it does not make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheops Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 55 minutes ago, bheard said: No "probably" about it. No insurance company is going to payout if you don't have a licence. Sent from my E5823 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app No insurance will pay out if you are drunk driving either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 33 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said: I do not support those without the money not having insurance and in what way are those with the money and who are willing to pay not a help to the innocent party? I am beginning to think you fell off last years christmas tree where the honesty of the average member of the human race is concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Cheops said: No insurance will pay out if you are drunk driving either! I think the answer to that is obvious then dont you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheops Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 minute ago, oldlakey said: I think the answer to that is obvious then dont you It was a statement, not a question, so I don't know what you are trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Cheops said: It was a statement, not a question, so I don't know what you are trying to say. I will explain to you then, only you though nobody else If you want your insurance company to pay out firstly you have to actually have one then you have to follow the rules There now can you see how simple it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheops Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, oldlakey said: I will explain to you then, only you though nobody else If you want your insurance company to pay out firstly you have to actually have one then you have to follow the rules There now can you see how simple it is You are such a funny guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 On 6/11/2018 at 1:45 AM, Cheops said: Anyway, all this doesn't matter, since the Brit is guilty. I will not write any more posts in this thread, so rest me to say enjoy your time in Thailand. what's that smell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg-jtYXvI7M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Cheops said: You are such a funny guy. I never took to being left out of anything me old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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