White Christmas13 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 So guys I don't know the Thai law about divorce but as you all know Thai guys intent to do a runner when fronted with pregnancy of they're wife's or child support. I have a good friend I met many months ago and I do really like her and I would like her to join me in Australia but the problem is her husband dumped her and left her looking after a year old kid now that was 9 years ago well the kid is ten now she is still married to him and she does not know were he lives so what can she do? Can she get divorced in his absence or does he have to be present for her to get a divorce don't know where they got married but I can find out Any advice I appreciate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 you'll probably never find out if one of her extended family visitors might really be him? Abandonment will be the avenue to explore, for any Divorce actions... But, were they 'really' married? did you see documentation? or was it just in front of the Monk? Many somchai get girl pregnant, then shack up, make believe they are married, to save face If you do get hitched, and decide to bring the kid, then if the dad is not located - the catch22 of not getting his permission for the kid to travel, might by your real problem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 Thanks for your reply No I did not see any documentation so far but just let assume they are legally married and not just in front of a monk has she got any rights to get divorced with his absence and no she lives alone with her daughter in a very small place no family members apart from her mom who lives not far away the two work together the mom cooks and she sells it. You know street food, and I know she lives alone I see her every night on cam and the daughter as well they share 1 bed so I am sure there is no one else involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post faraday Posted June 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2018 Go to the Amphur where she got married, & get a copy of the documents - to see if she was legally wed. If she was, ask them how she can get a divorce. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, faraday said: Go to the Amphur where she got married, & get a copy of the documents - to see if she was legally wed. If she was, ask them how she can get a divorce. I wish I could but i am in OZ now so I got a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happylarry Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Does your gf not know if she was legally married then? Anyway assuming they were then she can sue for abandonment as its over three years since he has been gone. But this needs to go through the courts and therefore needs a lawyer etc. HL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andyfez Posted June 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 You could consider that the girl is presenting these problems so that you come live with her in Thailand? Many Thai women, particularly when they have previous children simply find the idea of moving overseas (with child, and away from family) overwhelming, and would rather stay in their own country. Divorce is possible if she's determined, but it takes time. Maybe ask her to send you a copy of the certificate to prove it was a formal marriage.? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cyberfarang Posted June 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) On 6/18/2018 at 11:17 PM, White Christmas13 said: I wish I could but i am in OZ now so I got a problem You`re living a pipe dream and aiming for something you are unlikely to achieve. I very doubt doubt this woman would leave her child in Thailand to come and live with you in Australia. You would have to visit Thailand and officially marry this woman and adopt her child. Then you would have to apply for an Australian visa for her and the child. To accomplish a visa you would have to prove you have suitable accommodation in Australia and working in a secure full time job earning whatever earning amounts the Australian foreign office requires you to have, probably also require to have a certain amount of savings. As for her getting a divorce, this will need the services of a lawyer in Thailand. If judging by averages I guess this Thai woman does not have enough funds to pay for lawyers fees, which means you would have to fund her divorce. either by going to Thailand yourself and supervising the divorce or sending her money from Australia based on trust. So if you think it`s just a matter of her getting a quicky automatic divorce and then all she needs to do is fly over to Australia and join you there, I`d think again if I were you. It`s really not that simple. Edited June 21, 2018 by cyberfarang 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 One other point to mention is the mother if she is supporting her as well then she enters into the equation as your Gf is not going to want to leave her. Also how good is the son's English moving him to anew country an language as well as school will be dofficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosun Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 May I politely ask, as your countries Embassy will undoubtedly also want to do.. what exactly is your relationship with this good friend? You say you want your countrys Embassy to allow her and her child to join you in Australia, so they will want to know. Several other posters have offered good straightforward advice about a divorce but have you considered the next steps...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SOTIRIOS Posted June 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 ...assume nothing.... ...if you ask for advice.....and don't listen to it...why bother...??? ...for whatever reason...you choose to ignore the obvious.... ...this land is unforgiving....and many foreigners have learned the hard way...at great cost... ...generally....'emotions' they may 'express'....are just feigned....we fill in the rest with our imagination... ....Thais know that...we don't.... ...they are in it for the ....pay dirt at the end of it all...and all the perks and bonuses along the way... ...that is their objective... ...sorry but that is how it has been explained to me by sympathetic Thais... 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fittobethaied Posted June 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 If your friend is not capable of finding answers to these simple questions, then I can assure you that you will have trouble later on with her inability to think and act critically. You will definitely be "on your own" and shouldn't expect any intelligent help from her as you age and need help. Been there....done that! Take control and tell her to work it out, and if she can do that then you will try to bring her to Australia and give her a better life. If that "carrot' won't work, then move on! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shaurene Posted June 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 I meat my Thai wife 11 years ago, she was married be they parted 5-6 years before he left her with 2 children. We decided to marry but she could not get divorce from him. Went to see a local lawyer. He had left her for all these years with no support. Went to court and the Judge gave her the divorce no proble. Cost about 10,000bt with the lawyer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/18/2018 at 10:32 PM, White Christmas13 said: but the problem is her husband dumped her and left her looking after a year old kid now that was 9 years ago well the kid is ten now Have you seen her marriage certificate? Have you seen her 'Kor Saw 2' from the Amphur office (she just needs her ID card to buy one and will show her current marital status)? You can't do anything before you've checked she is actually married. (Women often lie about such things) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted June 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, kingstonkid said: Also how good is the son's English moving him to anew country an language as well as school will be dofficult Not relevant, a ten year old can learn a new language in a new country in less than a year. No special tuition needed, you just dump them straight in a normal Oz school. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) On 6/18/2018 at 11:14 PM, faraday said: Go to the Amphur where she got married, & get a copy of the documents - to see if she was legally wed. Any Amphur can provide the documents, she just needs to show her ID card, and stuff her finger in their fingerprint scanner. 30bht for Kor Saw song. If she can't produce the documents for you to see, I would suggest she is being 'dishonest'. Edited June 21, 2018 by BritManToo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anandwpasschier Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 in order for bringing the son out of Thailand the mother has to have sole custody, this can be asked for at the Amphur together with the village headman and en second witness ( for declaring she raised her son without support of the father). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike324 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 51 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Not relevant, a ten year old can learn a new language in a new country in less than a year. No special tuition needed, you just dump them straight in a normal Oz school. I agree, its more like that mom will have a harder time adjusting. I've seen many thais who marry foreigners end up returning back to Thailand, they can't get use to the western way of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stropper Posted June 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2018 married a hooker, took her back to aus where she took off and went back to what she did best, i went to thai solicitor, went to court after 3 years and divorce no problems , 30k bart all done, she was never sighted or heard of, the courts are quite good in thailand, as a matter of fact the judge asked me if i wanted half her house at kong, politely knocked the offer back. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprigger Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Your being conned he’s probably still about, but obviously not when you’re there. They do it all the time he’ll be enjoying any financial assistance you are giving her, ie. booze, fags motorbike etc. Don’t be a mug get on your bike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 7 hours ago, SOTIRIOS said: ...assume nothing.... ...if you ask for advice.....and don't listen to it...why bother...??? ...for whatever reason...you choose to ignore the obvious.... ...this land is unforgiving....and many foreigners have learned the hard way...at great cost... ...generally....'emotions' they may 'express'....are just feigned....we fill in the rest with our imagination... ....Thais know that...we don't.... ...they are in it for the ....pay dirt at the end of it all...and all the perks and bonuses along the way... ...that is their objective... ...sorry but that is how it has been explained to me by sympathetic Thais... Was that how it was explained... or did you just fill it in with your imagination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 8 hours ago, cyberfarang said: You`re living a pipe dream and aiming for something you are unlikely to achieve. I very doubt doubt this woman would leave her child in Thailand to come and live with you in Australia. You would have to visit Thailand and officially marry this woman and adopt her child. Then you would have to apply for an Australian visa for her and the child. To accomplish a visa you would have to prove you have suitable accommodation in Australia and working in a secure full time job earning whatever earning amounts the Australian foreign office requires you to have, probably also require to have a certain amount of savings. As for her getting a divorce, this will need the services of a lawyer in Thailand. If judging by averages I guess this Thai woman does not have enough funds to pay for lawyers fees, which means you would have to fund her divorce. either by going to Thailand yourself and supervising the divorce or sending her money from Australia based on trust. So if you think it`s just a matter of her getting a quicky automatic divorce and then all she needs to do is fly over to Australia and join you there, I`d think again if I were you. It`s really not that simple. A lot of the information that you have stated is incorrect. The highlighted and underlined area is incorrect information. I did 3 visitor visa's (subclass 600) plus a permanent resident visa (subclass 309 (provisional)(temporary) and subclass 100 (migrant)(permanent)) for my Thai wife and I did not have to supply that information to Australian Immigration as my wifes sponsor. What my wife was required to supply in the application was a Thai police criminal record certificate plus a Thai medical certificate plus her daughter who was not migrating to Australia with her mother also had to have a police criminal record check and a medical check as well. Also if the OP gets his g/f to Australia on a visitor visa (subclass 600) which is valid for 3 months he can apply after 2 months for a partner visa (subclass 820 (temporary) which is followed by a the partner visa (subclass 801 (permanent)) 2 years after the application and a bridging visa is automatically issued while waiting for the decision. However with the partner visa application the applicant must be in the country of application when the decision is made. The subclass 309 and 100 are for applications outside Australia and the subclass 801 and 820 along with the bridging visa are for applications inside Australia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 7 hours ago, mike324 said: I agree, its more like that mom will have a harder time adjusting. I've seen many thais who marry foreigners end up returning back to Thailand, they can't get use to the western way of life. I think that’s a generalization and could apply to anyone moving to a new country. I have come across many Thai people in Australia who have lived there for years My Thai wife had several friends who were happy living in Sydney Maybe Australia is different and the people more welcoming certainly the climate is better than many parts of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilebxxx Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 9 hours ago, SOTIRIOS said: ...assume nothing.... ...if you ask for advice.....and don't listen to it...why bother...??? ...for whatever reason...you choose to ignore the obvious.... ...this land is unforgiving....and many foreigners have learned the hard way...at great cost... ...generally....'emotions' they may 'express'....are just feigned....we fill in the rest with our imagination... ....Thais know that...we don't.... ...they are in it for the ....pay dirt at the end of it all...and all the perks and bonuses along the way... ...that is their objective... ...sorry but that is how it has been explained to me by sympathetic Thais... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7y89t-ChFo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paahlman Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I dont understand the problem... Make her scan the marriage document(s) from the amphur. Easy as chips.. And she can of course divorce in his absence.. If she was never married at the amphur she is not legally married and only the kid can complicate her moving.. I think the father(if he wants.. ) have to sign. It is common sense OP in Thailand these things... IF she doesnt know about this... RUN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Just ask her Did she make it official with the amphure or just with the monks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwpage3 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 You need to see if she has the marriage certificate as they don't keep copies. If there is no marriage certificate, then she is not married. If you know she is the one for you and you want to support her and her kid in OZ, get her a VISA. No one will come looking for whether she is married or not in OZ. The marriage certificate is the only proof of marriage. without it you are in the clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paahlman Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 On 6/26/2018 at 4:15 PM, bwpage3 said: You need to see if she has the marriage certificate as they don't keep copies. If there is no marriage certificate, then she is not married. If you know she is the one for you and you want to support her and her kid in OZ, get her a VISA. No one will come looking for whether she is married or not in OZ. The marriage certificate is the only proof of marriage. without it you are in the clear. Well.. I understand your point.., but you are of course registered in the computer system for that also.. The same way when you divorce they update that same file. People loose their papers everyday.. like blue or green books as well.. You go and report it stolen, forgotten or lost and go through the rules and they print you another one with the result of the old book, marriage paper og carbook tambien ban or whatever is Void. Of course it is like this. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwpage3 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 On 6/30/2018 at 4:38 AM, paahlman said: Well.. I understand your point.., but you are of course registered in the computer system for that also.. The same way when you divorce they update that same file. People loose their papers everyday.. like blue or green books as well.. You go and report it stolen, forgotten or lost and go through the rules and they print you another one with the result of the old book, marriage paper og carbook tambien ban or whatever is Void. Of course it is like this. ? I disagree with this. When you get your marriage certificate, you are flat out told NOT to lose it because it cannot be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happylarry Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, bwpage3 said: I disagree with this. When you get your marriage certificate, you are flat out told NOT to lose it because it cannot be replaced. Actually this is correct, they will not replace the official certificate if lost, but they will issue a copy from their files, which does the job but not so fancy. HL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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