Trump tries to defuse immigrant crisis, but policy hit by confusion

[Opl]

Trump Autographs Photos of Dead Crime Victims for Family Members

" On Friday President Donald Trump attempted to offset the criticism of his cruel zero tolerance and child separation border policies by inviting to the White House families of Americans killed by undocumented immigrants. Trump seems to have taken the opportunity to combine the solemn nature of the occasion with a celebrity autograph session. "

 

Family members hold photos, signed by U.S. President Donald Trump, of their loved ones who were killed by illegal immigrants, during an event at the White House in Washington, U.S., June 22, 2018.

 

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/23/trump-autographs-photos-of-dead-crime-victims-for-family-members.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/22/trump-autographed-photos-of-dead-crime-victims-for-white-house-event.html

 

[bristolboy]

2 minutes ago, bushdoctor said:

You’re barking up the wrong tree, and in an unusually callous way. It’s jot about statistics. The government has a right to know who is coming into the country. Congress has passed the laws and they will be enforced. 

Right, I'm the one being callous. This comes from someone who claims that the government is obliged to lock adults up and separate them from their children. Simply not true. This is simply a result of Sessions, implementation of a zero tolerance policy.

[bushdoctor]

18 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Right, I'm the one being callous. This comes from someone who claims that the government is obliged to lock adults up and separate them from their children. Simply not true. This is simply a result of Sessions, implementation of a zero tolerance policy.

Yes zero tolerance (or enforcing the law).

The alternative is to let illegal immigration continue. 

Trump ran on securing the borders and was elected president of the United States. 

Sorry you don’t agree with him, but you have to live with it. 

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, bushdoctor said:

Give it up. You have to live with it. 

Actually, it's you who have just given up by introducing a contention that's not only irrelevant, but most likely wrong. Certainly incorrect based on previous legal precedent. Most people aren't giving Trump's new executive order much of a prospect for success. 

[canthai55]

10 hours ago, bushdoctor said:

So it’s the USA’s fault that MS-13 sells drugs? 

And your solution is to let more in?

MS13 - et al - sell drugs to make money, because drugs are illegal, due to the Insane War on Drugs started by the US Gov't

Decriminalize - poof, problem vanishes. Along with all the indirect victims.

Spend the $$$ on health care, social services with those who have addiction issues.

Not ' Lock 'Em Up' - which policy does nothing.

But - it will never be allowed to happen, The War on Drugs is now a business,  with the same people controlling it as control building all the prisons to house those non violent drug offenders - some with Life for possession, not sale.

Give your head a shake - search how police chiefs feel about the failure. Here is one quote amoung many -

 

“When I look back at my time in the police I feel ashamed, I feel a sense of failure. I feel ashamed that I wasn’t arresting career criminals; I was arresting people from poor socially deprived areas with little or no hope whose crime was non-violent drug possession, a complete failure of the war on drugs

 

The top cops in America's four biggest cities said on Wednesday that the war on drugs has failed to keep America safe and that it's time to reform the country's criminal justice system, a view now officially shared by more than 125 other prosecutors, sheriffs, attorneys general, and law enforcement leaders from across the US.

https://news.vice.com/article/americas-top-cops-just-called-the-war-on-drugs-a-tremendous-failure

 

[neeray]

8 hours ago, zydeco said:

Yeah, just a name caller. Sort of like your post?  

When posting, I considered the possibility of a response from trumpsters like you. However, I selected my words carefully and stand by them as statistics and digital coverage support my words. I merely called a spade a spade. I own my words, he owns his.

[bristolboy]

11 hours ago, dcutman said:

This is just the State of Texas! The liberal definition of true divinity.

 

Between June 1, 2011 and May 31, 2018, these 171,000 illegal aliens were charged with more than 265,000 criminal offenses which included arrests for 495 homicide charges; 29,526 assault charges; 5,264 burglary charges; 33,637 drug charges; 350 kidnapping charges; 14,794 theft charges; 21,674 obstructing police charges; 1,537 robbery charges; 3,107 sexual assault charges; and 2,673 weapon charges. DPS criminal history records reflect those criminal charges have thus far resulted in over 110,000 convictions including 219 homicide convictions; 12,244 assault convictions; 2,900 burglary convictions; 16,358 drug convictions; 144 kidnapping convictions; 6,642 theft convictions; 10,508 obstructing police convictions; 929 robbery convictions; 1,528 sexual assault convictions; and 1,167 weapon convictions

https://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm

From the same report:

"These figures do not attempt to allege that foreign nationals in the country illegally commit more crimes than other groups."

[Scott]

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