Majority support death penalty: Super Poll

[rooster59]

Majority support death penalty: Super Poll

 

 

A large majority of Thai people support the death penalty under the Criminal Code, according to the result of an opinion survey by Super Poll, a pollster of a foundation for happiness and leadership research.

 

The poll was conducted on 1,123 people in various fields of occupations between June 19-22 to compile their opinions on their knowledge of the constitution and democracy, and the death penalty.

 

On the death penalty on people who commit murders with cruelty, a huge majority, 93.4%, said they agree with the death penalty while 6.6% disagree.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/majority-support-death-penalty-super-poll/

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-06-24

[Samui Bodoh]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

On the death penalty on people who commit murders with cruelty, a huge majority, 93.4%, said they agree with the death penalty while 6.6% disagree.

Hmm...

 

Do the 93.4% also agree that the Thai police are honest, efficient, trustworthy and professional?

 

Do the 93.4% also agree that the bureaucracy surrounding the legal system (administration clerks, evidence handlers, CSI people, etc) are honest, efficient, trustworthy and professional?

 

Do the 93.4% also agree that the Judiciary is honest, efficient, trustworthy and professional?

 

Unless the answer to all the above is "Yes", then it is irrational to think that the Death Penalty should be used.

 

BTW, if you look at the papers today, there are already questions being asked about the person put to death last week. LAST WEEK!

 

Utilizing the Death Penalty in Thailand is madness; there are too many things that can and will go wrong, and the likelihood of executing innocent people is simply too high. MUCH too high.

 

[Watchful]

1 hour ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Utilizing the Death Penalty in Thailand is madness; there are too many things that can and will go wrong, and the likelihood of executing innocent people is simply too high. MUCH too high.

 

While no one wants to execute the wrong person, you are ignoring modern technology such as CCTV, DNA, etc where we can determine with a fairly high degree of accuracy the perpetrator.

 

To never allow the death penality you end up with terrorists like the blind sheik who killed 18 people and then spent the next 18 years converting fellow prisoners to his radical ideology. Of course you could keep him in isolation, but according to the courts that would be "cruel and unusual".

[Matt96]

criminals deserve to be executed. in Singapore they kill drug sellers and enjoy the  lowest level of heroine usage in the world

[Anak Nakal]

39 minutes ago, Matt96 said:

criminals deserve to be executed. in Singapore they kill drug sellers and enjoy the  lowest level of heroine usage in the world

Singapore have good police.

Thailand no. 

Not Same Same.

You trust Thai police?

 

[Matt96]

6 minutes ago, Anak Nakal said:

You trust Thai police?

yes I trust Thai police. even corrupted police is better then criminals. many foreigners don't like the Royal Thai police because it punishes them for trying to bypass the immigration and labor laws of Thailand.

 

obey the <deleted> law and you will not need to pay bribes!

 

the first step to make the society better and less corrupted  - is to execute criminals, including officials taking bribes. China was was very corrupted country. but executing corrupted officials on stadiums - while millions watched it on TV -really helped.

Edited June 24, 2018 by Matt96

[300sd]

4 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Utilizing the Death Penalty in Thailand is madness; there are too many things that can and will go wrong, and the likelihood of executing innocent people is simply too high. MUCH too high.

Great post, thank you, that is so true. 

 

But I am for the death penalty in other countries, that seem to have an honest justice system, but not here. And of course where do you draw that line?

Others who would condone the death penalty here, most likely have not experienced this sham of a system.

 

 

 

[sawadee1947]

well, I didn't expect anything else. It shows we live in a totally uneducated undeveloped country. No sweat. Every single Thai as well as any politician up to the highest rank.

[rungsi]

Authentic Buddhism excludes the death penalty.

Culturel Buddhism distorts it ( centuries of mixture of ignorance, superstition with the original Teaching.)

 

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/summary-columbia-university-study-prof-james-s-liebman

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/00/06/lawStudy.html

 

More executions more you create murders (Texas, Huntsville, where Thaksin  studied his

extrajudicial killing) 

[yellowboat]

6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Utilizing the Death Penalty in Thailand is madness; there are too many things that can and will go wrong, and the likelihood of executing innocent people is simply too high. MUCH too high

It looks rather political motivated as well.  Elections are coming and looking tough on crime helps win votes. It looks like pandering to the masses more than justice. 

[Matt96]

1 hour ago, rungsi said:

More executions more you create murders (Texas, Huntsville, where Thaksin  studied his

extrajudicial killing) 

I am not a Taksin supporter but his extrajudicial executions was the right thing -because of them Golden Triangle as a source of heroin is a part of history.

 

those who are producing and selling death don'

t deserve human rights. They deserve a bullet in the head.

 

Now Duterte in Philippines does the same. bravo, Mr Duterte!

1 hour ago, sawadee1947 said:

It shows we live in a totally uneducated undeveloped country. No sweat. Every single Thai as well as any politician up to the highest rank.

oh, yeah? so you think all Thai people are inferior to you, white man? why dont you share you honest opinion with Thai people? May be when you will apply for you visa next time?

 

or just go back home - dont torture yourself in this barbarian uncivilized Thailand!

 

do you really believe that any educated person would agree with you automatically? no, if we are talking about real education, based on facts and not a leftist indoctrination.

Edited June 24, 2018 by Matt96

[sawadee1947]

4 minutes ago, Matt96 said:

those who are producing and selling death don'

t deserve human rights. They deserve a bullet in the head.

Are you God?

Are you entitled to act as a judge?

Or are you just one uneducated guy from Trumpistan?

[Matt96]

13 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Or are you just one uneducated guy from Trumpistan? 

and how did you make a conclusion that I am uneducated? because I don't agree with you? typical leftist ignorance - "all those who are educated agree with us"

nope! those who are really educated in real sciences  (and not so-called "social sciences" of modern left-liberal colleges) - do know that leftism is the worst human mind disease, responsible for unimaginable amount of human suffering.

 

they know how death penalty helps in law enforcement. if leftist like you would not meddle - Mara Salvatrucha in Salvador would be eliminated 30 years ago.

 

people like you when they have no arguments - go ad hominem. same as radical Muslims. you are pathetic

 

and about Trump - he was elected democratically by American people. and they dont really care of what you think of their choice. mind your own business.

 

13 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Are you entitled to act as a judge?

and who said I can't judge? your leftists teachers? keep your outdated propaganda for yourself

 

I can and will judge people, and agree for their right to judge me on basis of facts.

here are facts

1) you called all Thai people "uneducated",

2)you called Thailand "undeveloped".

 

so why dot you to a more developed country? socialist Laos, for example?

why do you torture yourself by living in an "undeveloped" country?

Edited June 24, 2018 by Matt96

[Chris Lawrence]

Asked about their knowledge of the constitution, 50.6% said they do not know what the constitution is; 10.5% know only that it is the country’s supreme law; and, only 38.9% understand that the constitution concerns democracy, rules and regulations.

A majority, 68.3%, of the respondents said they never read the constitution while 31.% said they used to read it. Thai PBS article.

Strange how the numbers of participants always seem to be around 1100. No one is admitting to doing this poll. There is no mention on how the poll was conducted. Were pollsters paid for their time? What was the mix of people or ratio of male v's female. What were the questions asked and how were they asked.

I don't know why its called a super poll? Does that make it any more important?

Sounds like someone is fishing?

[sawadee1947]

31 minutes ago, Matt96 said:

and how did you make a conclusion that I am uneducated? because I don't agree with you? typical leftist ignorance - "all those who are educated agree with us"

nope! those who are really educated in real sciences  (and not so-called "social sciences" of modern left-liberal colleges) - do know that leftism is the worst human mind disease, responsible for unimaginable amount of human suffering.

 

they know how death penalty helps in law enforcement. if leftist like you would not meddle - Mara Salvatrucha in Salvador would be eliminated 30 years ago.

 

people like you when they have no arguments - go ad hominem. same as radical Muslims. you are pathetic

 

and about Trump - he was elected democratically by American people. and they dont really care of what you think of their choice. mind your own business.

 

and who said I can't judge? your leftists teachers? keep your outdated propaganda for yourself

 

I can and will judge people, and agree for their right to judge me on basis of facts.

here are facts

1) you called all Thai people "uneducated",

2)you called Thailand "undeveloped".

 

so why dot you to a more developed country? socialist Laos, for example?

why do you torture yourself by living in an "undeveloped" country?

Next I'll pray for you. Or you might go to a Doc. I'm sure there are pills for such desease of your's

[Matt96]

Just now, sawadee1947 said:

Or you might go to a Doc. I'm sure there are pills for such desease of your's

people say this when they have no real arguments to answer)

 

 

1 minute ago, sawadee1947 said:

Next I'll pray for you.

you better pray for yourself - ask God to open your eyes to real life.

[sawadee1947]

1 minute ago, Matt96 said:

people say this when they have no real arguments to answer)

 

 

you better pray for yourself - ask God to open your eyes to real life.

that I suppose is a misunderstanding: I pray for you that you get the wisdom to shut up

[Chris Lawrence]

34 minutes ago, Matt96 said:

and how did you make a conclusion that I am uneducated? because I don't agree with you? typical leftist ignorance - "all those who are educated agree with us"

nope! those who are really educated in real sciences  (and not so-called "social sciences" of modern left-liberal colleges) - do know that leftism is the worst human mind disease, responsible for unimaginable amount of human suffering.

 

they know how death penalty helps in law enforcement. if leftist like you would not meddle - Mara Salvatrucha in Salvador would be eliminated 30 years ago.

 

people like you when they have no arguments - go ad hominem. same as radical Muslims. you are pathetic

 

and about Trump - he was elected democratically by American people. and they dont really care of what you think of their choice. mind your own business.

 

and who said I can't judge? your leftists teachers? keep your outdated propaganda for yourself

 

I can and will judge people, and agree for their right to judge me on basis of facts.

here are facts

1) you called all Thai people "uneducated",

2)you called Thailand "undeveloped".

 

so why dot you to a more developed country? socialist Laos, for example?

why do you torture yourself by living in an "undeveloped" country?

Matt you are getting caught up with BS left and right.

 

This is about an election. Always good for the person in power is to have a lynching just before polling day.

 

Sir Henry Bolte in Victoria was coming second in the polls. Opportunity came up for a hanging, so he ordered it to go ahead. He won the election. 

 

Bolte was asked by a reporter at his daily press conference on the day of the hanging what he was doing at the time it took place. Bolte, who recounts the story in an oral history interview for the National Library, replied: "One of the three Ss, I suppose." The reporter asked him what he meant. Bolte responded: "A shit, a shave or a shower." Wikkipedia.

 

If their was fairness in the process Boss would have been brought back to Thailand.

 

Its not about education levels, its about whether you have the money to properly represent yourself if accused of a capital crime. This may be a premises for the recapture of Mr T and giving him the death penalty. Very hard to get to the truth in a matter like this, as emotion run high with facts being buried.

[Matt96]

1 minute ago, sawadee1947 said:

that I suppose is a misunderstanding: I pray for you that you get the wisdom to shut up

ahaha. you can't just end a discussion without saying a last word, huh?

 

get a new prescription from you psychiatrist, old pal. also you will feel no urge to speak with God anymore.))

[robblok]

28 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said:

Asked about their knowledge of the constitution, 50.6% said they do not know what the constitution is; 10.5% know only that it is the country’s supreme law; and, only 38.9% understand that the constitution concerns democracy, rules and regulations.

A majority, 68.3%, of the respondents said they never read the constitution while 31.% said they used to read it. Thai PBS article.

Strange how the numbers of participants always seem to be around 1100. No one is admitting to doing this poll. There is no mention on how the poll was conducted. Were pollsters paid for their time? What was the mix of people or ratio of male v's female. What were the questions asked and how were they asked.

I don't know why its called a super poll? Does that make it any more important?

Sounds like someone is fishing?

Chris, about the 1100 i believe that is a sample size to make a poll believable / reliant. You can find much about it on the internet (sample sizes ect my statistics days are way behind me but i read about it on the internet because I too found the numbers low but its seems to be commonly accepted). Problem is getting a good cross section of the population 

 

http://www.ncpp.org/?q=node/6

Edited June 24, 2018 by robblok

[Matt96]

13 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said:

Matt you are getting caught up with BS left and right.

and who caught me, you? show mt the proof that I am wrong. otherwise it's usual TV bullshit...

 

13 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said:

This is about an election. Always good for the person in power is to have a lynching just before polling day.

why? because decent law-abiding people want criminals executed? I thought that all politicians should act according to people's will, instead of pushing their agenda.

13 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said:

Its not about education levels, its about whether you have the money to properly represent yourself if accused of a capital crime.

does it mean that with money and power you can be protected from the judicial system? This is what I am talking about!

that's why extrajudicial executions work so well -in Thailand, Singapore, China or Philippines. this is the only instrument against organized crimes, mafia, political or religious extremists.

 

13 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said:

This may be a premises for the recapture of Mr T and giving him the death penalty.

mr T is abroad. and Thailand has nothing like CIA or KGB to get him there. sad but true. Noone can give him a cup of tea, if you know what I am talking about))...

Edited June 24, 2018 by Matt96

[connda]

I don't trust any poll taken in this country.  It's too difficult to believe in an unbiased sample or pollster. 

But hey, if true, it supports my belief that Thais are BINOs, or Buddhists In Name Only.  Not a lot of compassion going around here outside of the more remote Forest Monasteries. 

Edited June 24, 2018 by connda

[Aj Mick]

Just who conducts these polls? And how reliable is their methodology?

 

I have seen poll results on various issues that appear to support the powers that be, yet so often they don't seem to reflect the view (if any!) of local friends and associates.

 

Another, poll on capital punishment a couple of years ago (can't recall the source at present) reported 41% for the death penalty, 8% against, and 51% as undecided, having no opinion, or unwilling to respond.

[CGW]

6 hours ago, Matt96 said:

criminals deserve to be executed. in Singapore they kill drug sellers and enjoy the  lowest level of heroine usage in the world

So, you are saying the vast majority of Thai Police & Politicians should be executed, there are few that would doubt that they are criminals, or would you prefer to just execute the poor and uneducated as usually happens?

 

Don't believe all you read about Singapore, they like to maintain a squeaky clean image, look at how many drug rehabilitation centers there are, they are not there because they have the "lowest level of heroine usage in the world"

Edited June 24, 2018 by CGW

[Voodoochile]

4 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

well, I didn't expect anything else. It shows we live in a totally uneducated undeveloped country. No sweat. Every single Thai as well as any politician up to the highest rank.

Are you saying that if someone is for the death penalty they are automatically uneducated?

[sawadee1947]

1 hour ago, Matt96 said:

ahaha. you can't just end a discussion without saying a last word, huh?

 

get a new prescription from you psychiatrist, old pal. also you will feel no urge to speak with God anymore.))

Where did you escape? Or ran away?

[Expatthailover]

9 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Hmm...

 

Do the 93.4% also agree that the Thai police are honest, efficient, trustworthy and professional?

 

Do the 93.4% also agree that the bureaucracy surrounding the legal system (administration clerks, evidence handlers, CSI people, etc) are honest, efficient, trustworthy and professional?

 

Do the 93.4% also agree that the Judiciary is honest, efficient, trustworthy and professional?

 

Unless the answer to all the above is "Yes", then it is irrational to think that the Death Penalty should be used.

 

BTW, if you look at the papers today, there are already questions being asked about the person put to death last week. LAST WEEK!

 

Utilizing the Death Penalty in Thailand is madness; there are too many things that can and will go wrong, and the likelihood of executing innocent people is simply too high. MUCH too high.

 

So in disagreeing with the findings you are able to get in a good old thai bashing tirade.

Well done you.

Usa still has capital punishment. Are you saying the usa is honest, professional, efficient trustworthy or incapable of all of those criteria?

They clearly are still getting convictions wrong.

[mark131v]

6 minutes ago, Expatthailover said:

So in disagreeing with the findings you are able to get in a good old thai bashing tirade.

Well done you.

Usa still has capital punishment. Are you saying the usa is honest, professional, efficient trustworthy or incapable of all of those criteria?

They clearly are still getting convictions wrong.

Blimey fella you and Matt96 ought to get together as you both clearly live in a parallel universe where the buffoons in brown and the judiciary are not an incompetent, corrupt self serving institutions...

 

Hope you and your family never end up on the wrong side of them but then again where you are they clearly aren't the same as the RTP, RTA and judiciary who the rest of us who have removed our rose coloured spectacles  see on a daily basis flaunting their incompetence and ineptitude 

 

Clearly delusional........

[Lupatria]

12 hours ago, rooster59 said:

93.4%, said they agree with the death penalty

Interesting to learn the death penalty is far more popular in this country than their self-appointed leader

[sirineou]

13 hours ago, rooster59 said:

93.4%, said they agree with the death penalty

Which explains the way they drive.