Bangkok Ape Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Drinking water will be fine. That's a given. Hypothermia will be the likely killer after drowning. I still don't understand why audible contact has not yet been made. Surely they have special sonic equipment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rick99 Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 This is a horrible event to watch, as time goes on and on . They need to dive through to the boys. This requires people who are trained and equipped for specific blackwater diving in cave situations (most likely from the USA navy etc. ...independent specialists can be found online... " blackwater diving" ) . These specialists are the only people who can conquer the fear of getting through zero visibility water (extremely difficult psychological training ). Also must have no fear of ghosts or spirits. .and must be properly equipped beyond mere tanks etc ... I send my best wishes for the pumps to work. And hope that other nations help quickly. This is a parents worst nightmare. The nation can be commended for the extraordinary efforts made so far. Let's pray for the boys. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Is really going to help ? https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-rescuers-to-drill-hole-into-thailand-cave-in-search-for-missing-boys/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 minute ago, rick99 said: This is a horrible event to watch, as time goes on and on . They need to dive through to the boys. This requires people who are trained and equipped for specific blackwater diving in cave situations (most likely from the USA navy etc. ...independent specialists can be found online... " blackwater diving" ) . These specialists are the only people who can conquer the fear of getting through zero visibility water (extremely difficult psychological training ). Also must have no fear of ghosts or spirits. .and must be properly equipped beyond mere tanks etc ... I send my best wishes for the pumps to work. And hope that other nations help quickly. This is a parents worst nightmare. The nation can be commended for the extraordinary efforts made so far. Let's pray for the boys. Don't worry mate the Brits are on the way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Dave67 said: Is really going to help ? https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-rescuers-to-drill-hole-into-thailand-cave-in-search-for-missing-boys/ They're desperate at this point, and with good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dave67 said: Is really going to help ? https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-rescuers-to-drill-hole-into-thailand-cave-in-search-for-missing-boys/ Its good that they are drilling a hole down through the cave ..........but, after five days!!!!!! Should have been done immediately 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoop1130 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Army special force deployed to look for tunnel or crack on mountain top to get into cave A 90-member army special force was today (Wednesday) flown to the northern province of Chiang Rai to help in the survey and search for tunnel or opening atop the Tham Luang-Khun Nam Nang Non which may lead rescue team into the cave to look for the 13 missing footballers and coach. Army deputy spokesperson Colonel Sirichan Nga-thong said Army Commander-in-Chief General Chalermchai Sitthisart also flew to the site of the rescue operations to give morale support to officials involved in the search and rescue operations and to families of the 13 missing. More equipment have been rushed to the scene, including a mobile generator to provide lighting inside the cave, giant water pumps, a mobile kitchen and a backhoe. Full Story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/army-special-force-deployed-look-tunnel-crack-mountain-top-get-cave/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-6-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiKiwi Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 27 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Well, yes, but there is a good chance that water is available, even if nasty water. Let's hope so, under the rule of 333, water is the most pressing need right now, assuming they can still breathe air. Without water; Live 3 days Without food; live 3 weeks Without air; live 3 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Ape Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, sanemax said: Its good that they are drilling a hole down through the cave ..........but, after five days!!!!!! Should have been done immediately If they are still alive now then surely they will stay alive for a few days? My understanding is that the first 24 hours would be potentially critical and if they survived that then they are out of further danger IF they stay put and have adequate drinking water. Physiologically it would be hellish though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: More equipment have been rushed to the scene, including a mobile generator to provide lighting inside the cave, giant water pumps, a mobile kitchen and a backhoe. Nice to hear that they are "rushing" more equipment to the scene , just pleased that they didnt take their time about it.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greenchair Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 I'm just wishing with all my heart. Hard not to shed a tear. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Media1 Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 I would have asked the US for immediate support after day 1 expired 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Different Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 If they are not found on the 10th day, consider them dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelling wilbury Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 He said that Seal frog men were encountering difficulties in getting through a flooded channel to a cave chamber because of the murky waterwhich has blocked their visibility So much for the professionals......in low visability you work by feel ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 If they get them out it will be more by luck than judgement, going by the farce portrayed in the media - "Hoping for the best, and expecting the worst." Can anyone tell me who is in charge of this debacle, yeah, dead right, nobody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, travelling wilbury said: He said that Seal frog men were encountering difficulties in getting through a flooded channel to a cave chamber because of the murky waterwhich has blocked their visibility So much for the professionals......in low visability you work by feel ... Did you know that Thailand is a developing country? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelling wilbury Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 "If they get them out it will be more by luck than judgement, going by the farce portrayed in the media - " Just seen it all on tv the only person not there is the pope everyone running round like headless chickens getting nowhere You need BIG pumps to dewater a cave not the 2"ones the army have brought and BIG compressors to keep the air breathable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 If they get them out it will be more by luck than judgement, going by the farce portrayed in the media - "Hoping for the best, and expecting the worst." Can anyone tell me who is in charge of this debacle, yeah, dead right, nobody.You're being kind of harsh. It's obvious a very serious effort is being made. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post travelling wilbury Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Johnniey said: Did you know that Thailand is a developing country? Yes i am aware of that (i live here) but the navy seals are supposed to be the best on thailand ... lets just hope if they have to defend the kingdom in a conflict the water is clear enough to see clearly Edited June 27, 2018 by travelling wilbury Error 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johnniey Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, travelling wilbury said: Yes i am aware of that (i live here) but the navy seals are supposed to be the best on thailand ... Well let them get on with it, instead of criticizing them and trying to show that you know better. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelling wilbury Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Just now, Johnniey said: Well let them get on with it, instead of criticizing them and trying to show that you know better. If i thought for a moment the thais would stand back and let professional divers go in i would be there long ago 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelling wilbury Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 The navy seals say they cant go in due to water in the cave ...never met a seal cannot swim before 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Some off topic posts have been removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overherebc Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Johnniey said: Did you know that Thailand is a developing country? To Travelling Wilbury. Give it a break. You have no idea how fast the water flow is, do you. Yes murky water that isn't moving you can get through by feeling your way along but water with a very fast flow rate that is murky is a ehole different ball game. What exactly do you think the guys can hold on too to pull themselves through. No doubt your daily exercise is swimming across fast flowing rivers while blindfolded. You should be there giving them your advice and all will be fine and dandy. Edited June 27, 2018 by overherebc 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, overherebc said: Give it a break. You have no idea how fast the water flow is, do you. Yes murky water that isn't moving you can get through by feeling your way along but water with a very fast flow rate that is murky is a ehole different ball game. What exactly do you think the guys can hold on too to pull themselves through. No doubt your daily exercise is swimming across fast flowing rivers while blindfolded. You should be there giving them your advice and all will be fine and dandy. I've no idea what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Just now, Johnniey said: I've no idea what you are talking about. See my edit. Was answering Travelling Wilbury. Sorry to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chickenslegs Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, travelling wilbury said: The navy seals say they cant go in due to water in the cave ...never met a seal cannot swim before I don't think that snide remarks are appropriate in this topic. Seems to me that everyone is doing their best, but we are only getting to hear part of the story - and lots of conflicting information. For one example: you mentioned 2" pipes and small pumps being used, but I have seen 6-8" pipes and massive new pumps being deployed. Also there is talk of emptying down nearby reservoirs to lower the water table. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Ape Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I have just seen a positive Facebook post with infrared signature on it from the caves, no idea what it says though: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelling wilbury Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, chickenslegs said: I don't think that snide remarks are appropriate in this topic. Seems to me that everyone is doing their best, but we are only getting to hear part of the story - and lots of conflicting information. For one example: you mentioned 2" pipes and small pumps being used, but I have seen 6-8" pipes and massive new pumps being deployed. Also there is talk of emptying down nearby reservoirs to lower the water table. Im sure there is plenty of talk going on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangkok Ape Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 Standard Thai bashing going on from the usual barstool engineers and cave rescue experts typically based in Pattaya, Thailand. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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