14 minutes ago, greenchair said:

This case really needed international attention. 

The 3 brit had valuable information. It's an honourable and dangerous job. Every year journalists are being imprisoned and killed trying to bring news for you. 

Have some respect. 

Local newspapers ( rags ) and local tv journalists ( want to be something ) reporters, all countries, tend to spin things and are pushy without any respect for anyones feelings, love to make something dramatic when it's mundane.

More exposure they believe will sell more copies so more money can be made from advertising space.

Don't confuse them with front line war reporters who in the vast majority of cases report facts.

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

So you've been there and checked it out? Or are you hoovering up your 'insights' from the local media?

 

You have evidence that they are devoid of 'basic emergency response training'? Do you have some recommended reading for us?

To answer your first question (to me -which are your last 2 questions), the apparent lack of co-ordination/leadership between whoever is supposed to be in charge of this rescue operation (where minutes count) and those groups who are actually carrying it out is evidence of a lack of emergency response training (or the failure to implement that training):  1) who is the incident commander? 2) who is in charge of implenting the emergency response mgmt plan,  3) why are non-essential personnel (e.g. media) allowed to hamper rescue efforts and put both their own lives and the lives of rescuers at risk under extremely stressful and potentially life-threatening conditions? To echo Eric Loh, where is the media centre and gov't spokesman which should be separate and safely away from the operation centre and rescue site so that those who are working to bring these kids safely back can actually do their jobs (despite the apparent lack of co-ordination). 

In summary, my original comment and response to Eric Loh meant to highlight the media chaos that has ensued at the rescue site (the actual topic of the OP) that demonstrates a serious lack of control by authorities. I.e. Military in charge of rescue, police are crowd control, medical staff on standby for the boys, rescuers, and family. The rest of the gawkers/soothsayers/media whores that are hampering the effort should be kept away. 

To answer your second question, just Google "Emergency Response Basics." 

I recognize my original comment doesn't really help in the immediate situation of safely returning these boys to their families.  

However, can you say that your irascible response to my post have done anything to help re-unite these children with their families? 

Finally, of course I am not privy to the private training records of the personnel involved in the rescue and neither are you-my point being is that if they did indeed receive that training, it has been implemented poorly. 

Thanks for wasting 10 mins of my life. Back under the bridge now. 

8 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

No media center, no operational room, no spokesman, no one in charge of whole operation. Totally chaos. Pray for the kids. 

Excellent editorial in the Bangkok Post Friday made exactly this point. Lots of uncoordinated and duplicated searches going on by different teams, unnecessarily depleting oxygen in the cave system, no briefings for the international experts that have arrived etc. They made the point that it's overdue for Chiang Rai governor to step back from the situation and let someone else take over. 

13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That's abstract to people. But you knew that already. 

A dramatic cave rescue attempt of a group of boys is a story people can get their heads around. 

yeah todays  modern plauge ,sensationalism, the real problems get ignored, next week itll be something else.

Ambulance chasers is to good a name for these people.

Not only the media cause difficulty to the rescue teams even all the other high authorities peoples that like to get a little more publicity.  When I have a look at some media reports and see all the traffic (peoples and cars) than I have only one question; WHY? 

Not only the media cause difficulty to the rescue teams even all the other high authorities peoples that like to get a little more publicity.  When I have a look at some media reports and see all the traffic (peoples and cars) than I have only one question; WHY? 

In other countries accident scenes etc are closed off to all other than the emergency services that does not happen here, public, everyone are allowed to walk among the dead and injured taking pictures etc I fear these lads are lost to the chaos!!

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4 minutes ago, Badrabbit said:

In other countries accident scenes etc are closed off to all other than the emergency services that does not happen here, public, everyone are allowed to walk among the dead and injured taking pictures etc I fear these lads are lost to the chaos!!

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You are right Badrabbit, this will e a real big problem there. Every big guy there "know" what to do and everyone has another idea. After 7 days no success! Bad very bad for the families of those 13 guys. I pray and hope for then.

19 hours ago, Thailand said:

It's a bandwagon that the media and various "vip's" are jumping on when the only priority is finding these kids.

The thing is, the media are to blame for all this.

Not news any more, but entertainment.

Edited June 30, 20188 yr by hansnl

23 hours ago, Badrabbit said:

In other countries accident scenes etc are closed off to all other than the emergency services that does not happen here, public, everyone are allowed to walk among the dead and injured taking pictures etc I fear these lads are lost to the chaos!!

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Agree.

They have plenty of soldiers to throw a man fence around the entrance area.

How it will end no-one knows yet but just get all the 'reporters' and news people out and well back.

The maximum should be once a day one person telling the media 'the rescue is ongoing' no more, no less.