webfact Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Officials Call For Donations Of Small Diving Masks To Rescue Cave Boys By Asaree Thaitrakulpanich, Staff Reporter A man tries on a full-face diving mask Tuesday at Tham Luang Nang Non. CHIANG RAI — Rescue officials on Tuesday put out a call for special small-sized diving masks to rescue 12 boys and their coach who have been trapped in a cave for 10 days. Emergency teams – working to rescue 12 boys and their football coach stuck in Tham Luang Nang Non for a tenth day – said they may either use a less flooded cave route or extract the boys by making them dive. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2018/07/03/officials-call-for-donations-of-small-diving-masks-to-rescue-cave-boys/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-07-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadbury Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 Rather that seeking donations surely benevolent PM Prayut could put his hand into his deep pockets and fund these masks for the boys. That might go a long way to improving his low popularity. 19 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 Haven't the various experts around the world ruled this a crazy way to proceed with any rescue at this moment in time, putting the untrained (In scuba) boys at huge risk on top of the trauma they have already suffered? Somebody desperate for a photo op again perhaps? 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 ..those who will ... find a way to ... sad.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mekko Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) Lol Thai... ? A multi-million dollar international rescue effort with hundreds of both international and thai volunteers, experts, media on site, watched by the world at large, and they still need to embarrass themselves over a few thousand dollars of easily procurable masks. But alas it's not Thailand without the loosely accounted donation, be it a road, a school computer, or this ?♂️ ... as much as I cringe at each gofundme.com i-didnt-have-insurance-and-drove-my-bike-drunk at least a thai version would lend some accountability to the collection and distribution of funds vs the ye olde envelope... Amazing Thailand. Edited July 3, 2018 by mekko 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trottermoggy Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 Officials ask money for masks, THIS IS THAILAND. How is this possible. PM Prayut said he wil give the boys a holliday in Pattaya. He, hello first GIVE money for the mask. This is more important. don't you think so !!!!! The must first get out !!!! before they can go on holliday. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chang_paarp Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 I would love it if Thaksin stepped up and said "Here you go. Here is the money for those masks."" It would cause a number of people to choke on their som tam. Of course there are a number of billionaires in Thailand who would consider the cost as petty cash. This does not cover the issue that many of the experts do not consider this the safest way to extract the stranded lads. 6 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eligius Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 This is truly pathetic if true: there should be no need to 'put out a call for help with purchasing masks' at a time like this - the generous Thai Government should immediately jump in, not needing to be asked. There is even Someone Else who would be more than happy to donate such masks, I am sure ... Unbelievable! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KiChakayan Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 The guy who decided to go this way should be taken to dive in a pitch dark environment in a confined space. I am an amateur diver (divemaster level) and every time I am in a dark(er) confined space my air consumption is doubled, or more, just due mild claustrophobia. A beginner diver also uses twice as much air as a confirmed one. So I would expect each one of these boys going through a 12 liter tank in about 20 minutes. So they'd better work out their margins of error. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 58 minutes ago, Thailand said: Haven't the various experts around the world ruled this a crazy way to proceed with any rescue at this moment in time, putting the untrained (In scuba) boys at huge risk on top of the trauma they have already suffered? Further, It's been mentioned in media stories that some of them can't swim. From can't swim to using diving equipment in a location which total dark, where they know that cannot put their head up for 20 minutes or more is surely unthinkable and just a recipe for a panic lead disaster. More thinking needed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, Jupitero said: They are rich precisely because they do not give it away, except to ... .... buy popularity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, Chang_paarp said: I would love it if Thaksin stepped up and said "Here you go. Here is the money for those masks."" It would cause a number of people to choke on their som tam. Not wise even if well intended. The junta is known to make something out of nothing to legally charge him and possible ban the party or worse delay election as they will deem that a security threat. Just don't give the junta any more excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Eric Loh said: Not wise even if well intended. The junta is known to make something out of nothing to legally charge him and possible ban the party or worse delay election as they will deem that a security threat. Just don't give the junta any more excuse. "The junta is known to make something out of nothing to legally charge him...". More of you convenient rubbish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Forethat Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 Well...are they asking for donations of small masks or donations to BUY small masks? As I understand it, masks this small aren't easily acquired and they need people to donate small masks if they have them. If that isn't the case I should just get hold of the company that manufactures the masks and place an express order - money, in this case, should be a non-issue. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 Well they better start thinking fast as more rain is forecast, they would most likely find 12 small masks quickly with the Worldwide media attention this has been having,not a time to mull and probe,get it done.its a priority. regards worgeordie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post akirasan Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) I'm not good with math. How many diving masks equal one Rolex? Edited July 3, 2018 by akirasan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 And the one "who cannot be mentioned" said ........................................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfinityandBeyond Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Cadbury said: Rather that seeking donations surely benevolent PM Prayut could put his hand into his deep pockets and fund these masks for the boys. That might go a long way to improving his low popularity. I can't think of a better way for one to dispose of a dead friend's luxury timepiece. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokSausage Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Why not just charge the parents 5 times the going rate. Thats what would happen if the kids were farang plus a cave entry fee 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 57 minutes ago, Chang_paarp said: I would love it if Thaksin stepped up and said "Here you go. Here is the money for those masks."" Like the pumps he ordered when the last big flooding occured? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 40 minutes ago, scorecard said: "The junta is known to make something out of nothing to legally charge him...". More of you convenient rubbish. I remember a year or more back, students reading George Orwell's 1984 in public while eating sandwiches, to make a political point. They were charged with "eating a sandwich with criminal intent". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukkytuktuk Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 15 masks donated already. Let's go get em. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) I aplaude everything they have done but give me a break. The US and Brits cannot supply this? Comeon...... I will give NOTHING.... Edited July 3, 2018 by bkk6060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Rhys said: ..those who will ... find a way to ... sad.. Really!, call Thai embassy in Singapore, tell them to go buy masks, jump on a plane to Bkk, pick them up at airport, military hotshot to caves. Or ask for "donations" I know what I would be doing! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) ''never let a dramatic rescue with ( a happy ending) go to waste'' this circus has just begun,and many want a piece of this pie,combined with shamlessness, it could get ugly.. Edited July 3, 2018 by mok199 speliings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, CGW said: Really!, call Thai embassy in Singapore, tell them to go buy masks, jump on a plane to Bkk, pick them up at airport, military hotshot to caves. Or ask for "donations" I know what I would be doing! Sell one of the subs? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, KiChakayan said: The guy who decided to go this way should be taken to dive in a pitch dark environment in a confined space. I am an amateur diver (divemaster level) and every time I am in a dark(er) confined space my air consumption is doubled, or more, just due mild claustrophobia. A beginner diver also uses twice as much air as a confirmed one. So I would expect each one of these boys going through a 12 liter tank in about 20 minutes. So they'd better work out their margins of error. "So I would expect each one of these boys going through a 12 liter tank in about 20 minutes." Let's say 12 lit times 200 atm pressure = 2400 lit of air, they have about 2.000 lit of air to breathe. Consumption of approx. 30 lit/min = 65 min, 1 hour. More or less on the surface. Air supply should not be a problem as there can many tanks be deposited on their way out. The boy wouldn't even need to carry a tank of their own. They could breath from a regulator on an extended octopus. And they don't have to dive deep, mostly just a bit under the surface. Two professional seals with every boy should minimize the risk. The youngsters just have to learn to breathe compressed air under water until they feel confident enough to trust their helpers. As to my knowledge there are only three places where they have to dive through. My guess: They will be out of the cave soon. Need to eat and get strong again. They are young and well trained footballers, they must be in a general good condition. Good luck to all of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdoc Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Lol Thai... [emoji23] A multi-million dollar international rescue effort with hundreds of both international and thai volunteers, experts, media on site, watched by the world at large, and they still need to embarrass themselves over a few thousand dollars of easily procurable masks. But alas it's not Thailand without the loosely accounted donation, be it a road, a school computer, or this ?♂️ ... as much as I cringe at each gofundme.com i-didnt-have-insurance-and-drove-my-bike-drunk at least a thai version would lend some accountability to the collection and distribution of funds vs the ye olde envelope... Amazing Thailand. A few thousand dollars ? RRP 800 baht each so around 10000 baht for 12. Sent from my SM-G900I using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Time to get out the Thai army's greatest ever purchase and save the day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, pornprong said: Time to get out the Thai army's greatest ever purchase and save the day. Dunno about bomb detection, but it would 'undermine' some of the bullshit that's bound to appear once government ministers begin waffling about the situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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