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13 hours ago, ballpoint said:

Moto Guzzi V12 X Concept

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Yeah, should stay a f###ing concept too!

Hideous.

Some stuff should just never even come off a drawing board.

12 hours ago, kickstart said:

A pair of Vellocet Venoms, the clubman  c 1961, that BRG takes a lot of beating, although most Velocetts where black.

 The scrambler was factory built, more an MSS engine with Venom insides and carb.

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Unusual swing arm from the factory on that scrambler?

13 hours ago, ballpoint said:

Feet back on the ground.  A nicely rebuilt 1974 Norton Commando 850:

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Stunner!

12 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

I've always kinda liked that VTR thou'

Concur.

And the Suzuki TL.

Once heavily fiddled with, there is a basis for a good bike underneath all the plastic.

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For a number of years I was befriended to my Triumph dealer and he always called me when he needed someone to break-in his latest demo bikes. Already being retired, I did enjoy the rides - basically putting the first 1000 km on the clock. After which he would change oil and filter, check the bike and only then make it available to interested customers. Not only did I ride the whole twin and triple range (including the Rocket) and the fourcylinder Daytona 675, but also two other interesting brands he was selling at the time, a Moto Morini 120O twin and a Benelli Tre-K 1130, a screaming triple

These are the pictures that I took of the latter two:

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13 minutes ago, damascase said:

For a number of years I was befriended to my Triumph dealer and he always called me when he needed someone to break-in his latest demo bikes. Already being retired, I did enjoy the rides - basically putting the first 1000 km on the clock. After which he would change oil and filter, check the bike and only then make it available to interested customers. Not only did I ride the whole twin and triple range (including the Rocket) and the fourcylinder Daytona 675, but also two other interesting brands he was selling at the time, a Moto Morini 120O twin and a Benelli Tre-K 1130, a screaming triple

These are the pictures that I took of the latter two:

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As new demos tended to become available early in the year, it was often bloody cold - as in both my following pictures of the first Scrambler model and the Daytona 675 - both driven around for two days in sub-zero temperatures. But I didn’t complain, it was great fun!

 

 

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2 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

There is a connection t'wixt Rudge and that Vincent HRD anyone know .?

The HRD has a Rudge Ulster engine.  Many early British manufacturers used a third party engine (eg Brough used JAP and Matchless), with the JAP being popular in the 1920s.  Rudge - Whitworth fitted their own engine on their bikes, and in 1930 made their 4 valve ones available to others, including the bronze headed race derived ones, as shown. 

 

(Harold Raymond Davis (HRD) was making bikes since 1924, and successfully racing them for Sunbeam and AJS prior to that.  The company went broke in 1928 and the name was bought by Philip Vincent, who originally called his company Vincent-HRD to capitalise on the established name.  The company was one of the first to start using the newly available Rudge engines). 

 

Advert for the 1926 JAP engined HRD 70/S.  15 shillings for a foot operated front brake?  I'll take 2.

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Vincent hired legendary Australian engineer / mechanic / designer Phil Irving in 1931.

 

Messrs Philip Vincent and Irving.

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They started making their own Irving designed engines in 1934, originally a 500cc single, canted forwards at 23.75 deg.  In 1936 he was playing around with a drawing of it, rotated the drawing backwards by the same amount, and immediately made the connection.  A 994cc V Twin. 45 hp, 110 mph.

 

Motorcycle mathematics:

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Phil Irving also designed the Repco Brabham Formula 1 engine, which won Jack Brabham the driver's and constructor's titles in 1966, and authored a number of engineering classics, including 'Tuning for speed'.

 

Hang on.  I'll just finish my ciggie, and then I'll help you win the F1 championship.

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16 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

Phil Irving also designed the Repco Brabham Formula 1 engine,

Excellent appraisal above bp .. Phil Irving did indeed design the 620 V8 f1 engine mid 60's ish .. Said not to be overly powerful in HP terms it was quite torque laden by all accounts .. Came from a golden age of engines from numerous smallish manufacturers BRM and Matra being just 2 others .. And here's another motorcycle link of the Repco lump .. By all account's numerous conrods from other engines were looked at during development of which one was the Daimler V8 from a few pages back and the Daimler unit was designed by one Edward Turner .. Full circle do I get a bonus point for that .. 

 

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When engines go mad .. 

V16 Callaway using 4 Yamaha 5 valve top ends and barrels to create a 4.0 litre V16 .. Looks a bit long to fit in a bike now .. 

Huge Rootes supercharger from the slightly lesser V12 Auto Union of the 30's .. 

 

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Rudge Whitworth...

You could not get a more English-Old-Chap sounding name than that.

The bloke who has done all my engine machining (crank grinds, rebores, valve jobs - that sorta stuff) in Norfolk the last 20 odd years has, amongst other bikes, a road legal, tatty, but mechanically perfect Rudge.
It ain't slow either.

The quintessential English bikes (note i did'nt say Brit), ie Rudge, Sunbeam, Velocette & Vincent all seam to also have the most active owners clubs and spares schemes.

Velo & Vincent near 100% stock of parts that actually wear out.

Not available in shops, but only thru the owners club spares scheme.

Fabulous idea.

 

This thing pooped into my Inbox from Pipeburn a coupla days ago.

Not my thing, not my genre, but has some nicely made bits on it, and an unusual, left field motor.

No, its not a Virago lump....

Starter for 10 or a box of Chang - whats the engine?

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3 hours ago, ballpoint said:

Vincent hired legendary Australian engineer / mechanic / designer Phil Irving in 1931.

 

Messrs Philip Vincent and Irving.

I woulda enjoyed having several pints & cigs with Mr Irving....

We coulda talked pushrods and tappet feet radius's and stuff....

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7 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

Starter for 10 or a box of Chang - whats the engine?

Here's one I prepared earlier...

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(I confess, I would have been left scratching my head if it wasn't for the name on the tank).

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14 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

The quintessential English bikes (note i did'nt say Brit)

That's something that seems so obvious, but I never really considered it before.  The Scots are meant to be famous for being engineers, but where are their own manufactured cars and bikes?  I guess they all stuck to steam and went to sea, or the railways.  With at least one going where no man has gone before.  The final frontier...

 

To be fair, there was a Welsh manufacturer.  Harry J Hulsman (HJH), who apparently took so many orders at the 1955 Earls Court motor show that he couldn't fulfill them, and went bust in 1956.

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On 8/19/2018 at 8:43 AM, KhaoYai said:

Never thought and old Beemer could look so cool - but that black one does! The purists will have a fit if they see that ?.

 

         Bsa  C10 and C15 ,  any one remember  them ?. 

                Goldie 500 single ,my first and last love . 

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8 hours ago, ballpoint said:

Hang on.  I'll just finish my ciggie,

Ahh them was the days when men were men and almost always had a tab' on the go when a camera was about .. 

Baz' dragging the life out of one and Baz' partying with badboy Public Schoolboy and F1 champ James Hunt who not only liked a tab an' drink was also quite partial to the odd Air Hostess or 30 .. not to mention a bit of fisticuffs for which he gained a bit of a reputation ..  Complete geeza then .. Alas both are no longer around now .. 

 

 

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