jenny2017 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, oldlakey said: The correct word is dies in this case because nothing was offered as a reason for his death or what KILLED him in the headline Rescue diver dies in Tham Luang cave complex The BBC has their headline as the diver died not killed The lack of oxygen, or not having enough oxygen, killed him. Does it really matter what's in the headline when all others here seem to know what happened? Who cares about the BBC's headline? A brave man has lost his life helping others. Hairsplitter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel23 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Sheryl said: Not in the US. Used all the time. "Killed by falling debris" "killed in a tragic accident" etc. Perhaps it varies by country but this usage is certainly not unknown. Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app I am not a native speaker but isn't "died" used when it was a natural cause and "killed" when it was by murder etc. or an accident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel23 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 After seeing this I doubt divers can make it out here with the kids. At least not when they have to struggle with their own tanks. What maybe can be done is positioning double tanks with long hoses before and after the narrow spots so they just have to change regulators and by going backwards (kid and diver head to head) can concentrate on the kids. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fish Head Soup Posted July 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, Joel23 said: After seeing this I doubt divers can make it out here with the kids. At least not when they have to struggle with their own tanks. What maybe can be done is positioning double tanks with long hoses before and after the narrow spots so they just have to change regulators and by going backwards (kid and diver head to head) can concentrate on the kids. That's not actual footage from the cave in Chiang Rai. It's footage from Wookey Hole in the UK. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel23 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Fish Head Soup said: That's not actual footage from the cave in Chiang Rai. It's footage from Wookey Hole in the UK. Do you have a link? Edited July 6, 2018 by Joel23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Head Soup Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Joel23 said: Do you have a link? It's not Wookey Hole as first stated. It is in fact Castle Rock Cave in Wisconsin USA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlwoX1YEmg That particular part of the cave is at 4 minutes in to the video I have linked. (different diver though). Edited July 6, 2018 by Fish Head Soup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel23 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Fish Head Soup said: It's not Wookey Hole as first stated. It is in fact Castle Rock Cave in Wisconsin USA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlwoX1YEmg Okay. Found that too. The overhanging rocks looked similar, but the belt of the diver was not that blueish like in the video I linked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Head Soup Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Joel23 said: Okay. Found that too. The overhanging rocks looked similar, but the belt of the diver was not that blueish like in the video I linked to. It's all terrifying to me anyway, Joel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 5 hours ago, jenny2017 said: The lack of oxygen, or not having enough oxygen, killed him. Does it really matter what's in the headline when all others here seem to know what happened? Who cares about the BBC's headline? A brave man has lost his life helping others. Hairsplitter. I beg your pardon The word KILLED does not fit in this context End of chat I was commenting on the use of the English language nothing else as regards some others posters comments Thank you Have a nice day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 6 hours ago, lamyai3 said: Died is probably the better word choice agree, but killed is legitimate - the cause is implied. Here's another example from international media: https://www.msn.com/en-xl/asia/other/final-salute-for-former-thai-navy-seal-killed-in-cave-rescue/vi-AAzFfoO There is no cause implied in the headline I shall withdraw now as I dont want to be accused of bickering Have a nice day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) I hope the people making the decisions on the time to bring out the team are watching this closely forget the media frenzy, forget the pressure from the outside world, speak to the parents and say when the time is right they will get them out... but be prepared for a long wait.. it is not an issue about a time frame, its all about safety and lives, just be patient & lets not lose anyone else ! Edited July 7, 2018 by hotchilli 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosst Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Let us wait for the results of the investigation, a possible medical condition, let us not leap to conclusion. RIP a brave man and Condolences to his family and colleagues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelin Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 The man wasn't killed. He probably died from exhaustion. The news reporter should brush up his report. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 15 hours ago, tandor said: ..RIP brave fella. I don't know if he was married and got kids. If he was than the Thai Gov should take care of them for life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 I don't know if he was married and got kids. If he was than the Thai Gov should take care of them for life.I already have read that this is to happen.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 23 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Wow, if accurate, that's pretty amazing on the part of the Central government. I mean, I think this guy's role, like everything else, has probably been overplayed and trumped up by the frothing local media. But still, he was the incident commander, apparently, and to yank him in the middle of the operation speaks volumes about those higher up in charge. Well, as of midnight or so last night, the former governor was the one who apparently ended up still giving last night's very late media briefing on the rescue. So he's still there, apparently, just not as CR governor anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saminoz Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 18 hours ago, KKr said: transfer was in the pipeline for months already. just a bureaucratic process and unfortunate timing I remember that same explanation being rolled out when they transferred the top Policeman in the KT killings immediately after he identified the headsman's son and uncle as the culprits! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, yrag said: And you self righteous one, articles stated this...are you the critic here in these post...get a life I have a life but I get bored with posters like you that have no idea what you are talking about and who post false information as fact. Good bye. Edited July 7, 2018 by billd766 edit for bad spelling after I had posted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 8 hours ago, saminoz said: I remember that same explanation being rolled out when they transferred the top Policeman in the KT killings immediately after he identified the headsman's son and uncle as the culprits! that may have been the case, I do not have the facts, and do not know whether the person identified was wrongly or correctly accused. However this Governors transfer has been pending for months for bureaucratic reasons, and that is well known in the Provinces concerned. In the bigger picture, this seems rather off topic by the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, billd766 said: I have a life but I get bored with posters like you that have no idea what you are talking about and who post false information as fact. Good bye. I chalk this one off as you having another bad day...Goodbye 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 45 minutes ago, yrag said: I chalk this one off as you having another bad day...Goodbye It's just his time of the month..... He was acting bitchy yesterday too... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ks45672 said: It's just his time of the month..... He was acting bitchy yesterday too... If my memory serves I think I once got a ban for saying that to someone I expect I got reported though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 55 minutes ago, Ks45672 said: It's just his time of the month..... He was acting bitchy yesterday too... I put yrag on my ignore list today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfaroukh Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 It is very sad. God bless his soul and his family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketlive Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 On 7/6/2018 at 2:49 PM, Sheryl said: In at least some Englush speaking countries "killed" does not imply murdered. "Killed in a car crash" for example, said all the time. Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app true indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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