Tham Luang cave rescue: Tense wait for remaining 5

[mdmayes]

Wish them all a successful rescue.

[whaleboneman]

1 hour ago, Dario said:

Think just a little bit before you post anything: the kids have been in absolute dark for half a month. The umbrellas are there not for the press, but for the kids to protect their eyesight.

welding goggles would be in order

[Antonymous]

22 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

When they brought the first group out it was noted that the media were spying on the rescuer's radio frequencies and using drones to try and get pictures of the boys when they first came out of the cave.

 

Maybe that is how the names of the first four got out into the international press. Just checked and the name details I read online on the day have not been retracted since. The Thai authorities were much more careful about hiding identities after the first rescue and rightly so.

[Brunolem]

1 hour ago, Kerryd said:

 

What next, someone going to suggest that they may have developed "bat like" senses while in the cave and have an unnatural affinity for sucking blood ?  

That, or one of them will become the Thai Batman!

[fullcave]

Well, that was an adventure of a lifetime, hiking 5 km inside a cave during flood season with twelve young boys is no small accomplishment. I bet they had no idea what the coach had planned for them. 

[BEVUP]

Now one can see why they put the 20 hr time frame till the next attempt

They are going to need to supply a lot more bottles

* The rescue divers are covered

* Normal amount as before + extra for the 5 th person

* extra's for the Doc & who ever else is in there ( maybe 2 SEALS )

[webfact]

Heavy rain forecast for Chiang Rai

By The Nation

 

Heavy rains will on Tuesday hit Chiang Rai, the province where five footballers remain trapped in a cave, warns the Meteorological Department.
 

The daily weather forecast, issued at 4am on Tuesday, predicts rain for 70 per cent of the areas of Chiang Rai, Mae Hong Son, Chiang Mai, Lamphun, Lampang, Tak, Kamphaeng Phet, Phichit and Phitsanulok.

 

The rain will be heavy in some areas.

 

The forecast added that the country’s Central, East, Northeast and Bangkok zones would also have rain over 70 per cent of their areas, while rain will fall on 80 per cent of the South.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30349724

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-07-10

[webfact]

MAE SAI, Thailand (AP) - Thai health official says first 4 boys rescued are aged 14 to 16 and 2 of them possibly have a lung infection.

[RickBradford]

No need to worry about rain....

 

Gen Buncha Duriyaphan, an army commander involved in the operation, said he had been asking Pra Pirun, the god of rain, for three days’ reprieve to conduct the operation. He said praying for an extension may be viewed as indulgent. “If I ask for more, he might not grant it,” he said.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/09/divers-prepare-to-re-enter-cave-as-thai-rescue-restarts

[webfact]

UPDATE:

 

Video: Elon Musk is INSIDE Tham Luang cave testing rescue sub

 

Elon Musk meeting with rescuers at Tham Luang on 9 July. Image: Thai Georgraphers Facebook. 

 

American tech entrepreneur Elon Musk has tweeted that he is already at the Tham Luang cave with a prototype of the mini submarine he is hoping can be used to recuse the boys and their coach who remain trapped inside the cave.

 

Full story: https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1047603-video-elon-musk-is-inside-tham-luang-cave-testing-rescue-sub/

[Aforek]

49 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

When they brought the first group out it was noted that the media were spying on the rescuer's radio frequencies and using drones to try and get pictures of the boys when they first came out of the cave.

Remember as well that on the day the first group (of 4) came out there were "confirmed reports" that 6, and even 7, boys had been rescued. As we know (now) those reports were BS. 
I believe one Thai TV station was showing pictures of some of the boys on what looked like some kind of ID tag/marker. I'm not sure if those were the boys who were in the first group or just random pics of some of group.

 

True, so many wrong informations, especially the first day , that now I wait officials informations; I don't know how an American newspaper can know the names of the kids if Thai authorities didn't give them ; medias ? they are ready to say anything to attract attention 

[Toshiba66]

This is going to make one hell of a movie where hopefully we can find out some of the facts that may be missing .

 

Lets hope its all over today so I can get some sleep.

The way I see it there is still 7 to get out. 4 boys, the coach and 2 seals. Maybe this is the reason for the 4 pm start as reported to get so many air tanks in place. 

 

Lets hope the success continues today!

[AsianAtHeart]

2 minutes ago, fullcave said:

Well, that was an adventure of a lifetime, hiking 5 km inside a cave during flood season with twelve young boys is no small accomplishment. I bet they had no idea what the coach had planned for them. 

Let's take it easy on the coach, folks.  From what was reported in Thai, the search teams, in doing their homework for the rescue, looked for the coach's family, only to find that he was an orphan with no real family.  He had spent ten years in monkhood, apparently both for sustenance and as a means of trying to find meaning in his life.  He is a strong Buddhist, and apparently taught the children to use meditation techniques while in the cave.  The parents of the children do not wish for any blame to come to the coach--they obviously know him better than we do.

 

No one is perfect, and all of us are accident-prone.  Consider the death of the former Navy SEAL--I'm sure he felt confident and expert enough, and perhaps he was.  But an accident happened, even for him.  Sometimes our accidents will be fatal.  Sometimes we are fortunate and they are not.  This mistake of entering the cave with the rains so imminent was the sort that could have been fatal.  It was still an ignorant mistake, not a deliberate, knowing risk.

[Kerryd]

15 minutes ago, fullcave said:

Well, that was an adventure of a lifetime, hiking 5 km inside a cave during flood season with twelve young boys is no small accomplishment. I bet they had no idea what the coach had planned for them. 

Some of the kids from the same school (maybe even the same soccer team) have stated that they've been in those caves before and one boy noted he'd gone even further than where this group ended up.

It's not some secret hidden place known only to a select secret group. Lots of people go into those caves all the time.

[Sheryl]

Having seen what the rescuers achieved the last 2 days it is easy to assume today will go just as well but each evacuation is frought with risk and difficulty.

Each individual boy goes through an unimaginable ordeal getting out, calling on every ounce of courage and trust he can summon up. My grandson is their age. To think of him in their situation and embarking on that dangerous, scary dive out gives me chills.

Each rescuer kniws all too well the dangers and that any misstep could be fatal.

All my thoughts and good wishes are with them today.



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[Brunolem]

7 minutes ago, AsianAtHeart said:

Let's take it easy on the coach, folks.  From what was reported in Thai, the search teams, in doing their homework for the rescue, looked for the coach's family, only to find that he was an orphan with no real family.  He had spent ten years in monkhood, apparently both for sustenance and as a means of trying to find meaning in his life.  He is a strong Buddhist, and apparently taught the children to use meditation techniques while in the cave.  The parents of the children do not wish for any blame to come to the coach--they obviously know him better than we do.

 

No one is perfect, and all of us are accident-prone.  Consider the death of the former Navy SEAL--I'm sure he felt confident and expert enough, and perhaps he was.  But an accident happened, even for him.  Sometimes our accidents will be fatal.  Sometimes we are fortunate and they are not.  This mistake of entering the cave with the rains so imminent was the sort that could have been fatal.  It was still an ignorant mistake, not a deliberate, knowing risk.

And who among us has never jumped over a fence with a "no trespassing" sign?

[NCC1701A]

radar shows raining over cave area. looks to be stalled and not very fast moving, unfortunately.

Edited July 10, 2018 by NCC1701A

[NCC1701A]

12 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

And who among us has never jumped over a fence with a "no trespassing" sign?

I don't do anything unless somebody tells me not to. 

[AsianAtHeart]

3 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

radar shows raining over cave area.

My intuition tells me that rain will not have an immediate effect.  I would expect the flood waters to swell most in about 4 - 12 hours from the downpour.

[USNret]

3 hours ago, Vacuum said:

What's up with the umbrellas?

 

In a life-or-death situation, this is your concern? Get a grip, dude! 

[saminoz]

15 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Having seen what the rescuers achieved the last 2 days it is easy to assume today will go just as well but each evacuation is frought with risk and difficulty.

Each individual boy goes through an unimaginable ordeal getting out, calling on every ounce of courage and trust he can summon up. My grandson is their age. To think of him in their situation and embarking on that dangerous, scary dive out gives me chills.

Each rescuer kniws all too well the dangers and that any misstep could be fatal.

All my thoughts and good wishes are with them today.



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So you're a grandma Sheryl!  That explains a lot.

Your moderation of this thread has been excellent.  Balanced, tolerant but, when needed, bringing us errant posters back into line with a well deserved metaphorical "clip around the ear"!

Good job and thanks!!

[chrisinth]

4 minutes ago, AsianAtHeart said:

My intuition tells me that rain will not have an immediate effect.  I would expect the flood waters to swell most in about 4 - 12 hours from the downpour.

I don't think the rain directly overhead will be a major concern, but rain already fallen on the mountain range elsewhere may have started its ingress already. Its all part of the same ecosystem. 

[Lampang2]

They pump out much more water now than before according to Thai PBS 3
A factor 10
Rain should not be an issue.
I forsee levels lower than ever during this operation.

If mentioned before I beg your pardon.
Can't scroll it all.

[Sheryl]

Meanwhile I really hope they have given the rescued boys their pad krapao mu by now!! Heard yesterday they were being limited to rice soup which seems excessive after a week of refeeding already.

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[chrisinth]

11 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Meanwhile I really hope they have given the rescued boys their pad krapao mu by now!! Heard yesterday they were being limited to rice soup which seems excessive after a week of refeeding already.

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I'm not sure if they have been introduced to solids yet, I had assumed they have been living off the energy gels getting the proteins and minerals back into their bodies while in the caves. Takes a bit of time for the digestive system to re-adapt after that stuff.

 

Could be wrong there though.

Edited July 10, 2018 by chrisinth

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, Xonax said:

You should think at little bit more yourself, before you post anything. The only thing you would need to protect are the eyes, and sunglasses would be the only appropriate thing for that.

And a sleeping mask would be even better and more secure. 

[webfact]

Rainfall in cave area relatively light, rescue effort unaffected

By The Nation

 

Rainfall in the area of Tham Luang Cave in the past 24 hours has not raised water levels enough to hamper continuing rescue operations, Royal Irrigation Department officials said on Tuesday morning.
 

They said the latest rainfall so far had no effect on the effort because 400 officials from various agencies, including the department, had identified and blocked the main sources of water flowing into the cave.

 

All known channels of inflow from creeks above the cave had been diverted or blocked.

 

The Hydro and Agro Informatics Institute reported on its website that, as of 7am Tuesday, 7.2mm of rain had fallen in the area over 24 hours, in stark contrast to the 59.4mm that led to cave flooding on June 20.

 

The subterranean water level remained high when the Wild Boars football team arrived to explore the cave on June 23 and kept climbing, trapping them inside.

 

Floodwater was still being drained from the cave on Tuesday morning.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30349729

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-07-10

[tingtongtourist]

" Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha visited the cave to inspect the operation and was quoted by Narongsak as saying he didn't want to see this kind of incident happen again on Thai soil."

 

New laws coming then? 

big fine and jail term if tresspass in caves?

 

I agree with laws on certain stuff but if not careful they will turn Thailand to be infected with nanny state thinking.

 

ie. when they cant think of sensible laws to pass they dream up all sorts of endless BS,

thinking it makes them look good.

 

no please Thailand, already happen in places like Australia i believe

 

 

[Get Real]

Good Luck again. Let´s all hope that today is the day when all finally have been recued after the work is finished.

[lensta]

1 hour ago, Brunolem said:

And who among us has never jumped over a fence with a "no trespassing" sign?

Absolutely correct, however, even as children we knew there would be consequences if we were caught.