‘Phoenix’ to be salvaged as important evidence

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‘Phoenix’ to be salvaged as important evidence

By Kritsada Mueanhawong

 

 

The ‘Phoenix’ is to be salvaged in order to help find the one remaining missing passenger as well as another body which has been stuck in the boat, unable to be recovered by divers. The boat is to be salvaged from its current location 45 metres underwater, south-west of Phuket island.

 

The marine Department Region 3 Chief Puripat Teerakulapisut says, “We have contacted the he Royal Thai Navy Third Area Command (NAC3) to assist in the salvage of the sunken ‘Phoenix’ boat to make sure that there is no further bodies to recover (other than the one person we already know about). This process must be done with great care so not to damage the boat. The ’Phoenix’ boat is an important piece of evidence for this case.”

 

“A 400 tonne crane is currently coming from Malaysia and expected to arrive in Phuket in around ten days. When we have the crane the salvage is expected to take about 15 days. Experienced experts are needed for the savage as the boat remains at 45 metres underwater.”

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/phoenix-to-be-salvaged-as-important-evidence

 

-- © Copyright The Thaiger 2018-07-12

[happy chappie]

Oh Thailand,the hub of needing international help.the hub of tourists deaths.i don't know about boats sinking but I can see the country as a whole might be.

[mok199]

yes the sh*t keeps coming '' they may need a bigger boat''

[atyclb]

question for marine engineer or similar.  can a second small hull similar to that of an outrigger canoe be added to such unseaworthy boats to help prevent them from capsizing?

[Tug]

Growing pains for Thailand the USA had problems like this back in the day now we have a compressive system of inspections from the design construction stability safty equipment crew qualifications weekly drills for proficiency number of passengers the USA coastguard is the body that performs this task the Thais must implement something similar as they grow into a first world nation 

[grollies]

16 hours ago, atyclb said:

question for marine engineer or similar.  can a second small hull similar to that of an outrigger canoe be added to such unseaworthy boats to help prevent them from capsizing?

How is the vessel unseaworthy?

 

Put any vessel in a beam sea, if waves and swell are heavy enough, it will capsize.

 

This was a result of poor seamanship..very poor seamanship.

[German farang]

12 hours ago, grollies said:

How is the vessel unseaworthy?

 

Put any vessel in a beam sea, if waves and swell are heavy enough, it will capsize.

 

This was a result of poor seamanship..very poor seamanship.

 

Well, maybe. But there are also other problems possible:  engine failed, rudder out of order... or even crossing waves.... 

[Old Croc]

On ‎7‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 7:35 PM, atyclb said:

question for marine engineer or similar.  can a second small hull similar to that of an outrigger canoe be added to such unseaworthy boats to help prevent them from capsizing?

Not practical.  Large ocean going ships can have stabilisers to  reduce roll and it's possible to fit gyroscopes to smaller boats

Not likely to happen for a cheapy tour boat built for the Chinese trade. 

Edited July 14, 2018 by Old Croc

[Small Joke]

If that picture is the actual Phoenix, it's ironic that a modified aircraft escape slide, was on board. 

However aircraft sliderafts deploy in seconds. This one likely needed a shonky compressor and 20 minutes to be of any help.  

[Small Joke]

Regarding  other technical failures mentioned by 'German farang'  Given those possibilities can occur on the best run tour vessels. The captain should not have put to sea under those weather conditions,  end of report. 

Edited July 14, 2018 by Small Joke

[Oziex1]

To be salvaged and grabbed by some opportunistic crook.

[300sd]

On 7/13/2018 at 11:38 AM, grollies said:

How is the vessel unseaworthy?

 

Put any vessel in a beam sea, if waves and swell are heavy enough, it will capsize.

 

This was a result of poor seamanship..very poor seamanship.

Depending on the design and seaworthiness of the vessel, some that are poorly designed will roll over first, in the same sea.

 

How deep was this boat? How much ballast did it have below decks to keep it stable? A vessel running in a beam sea should not have too much problem, unless it is poorly designed etc. A boat a drift will have more problems. 

 

Yes I agree with you, grollie, this was a result of poor seamanship, but I have a feeling, by looking at the pic of that thing, this captain had little to work with. So he is entirely responsible in my opinion.

[Soupdragon]

There is a rumour going around that something broke loose in the bottom of the boat, fuel or ballast tank. This caused a large weight shift to one side and resulted in the capsize.

 

We will see when the boat is lifted.

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Soupdragon said:

There is a rumour going around that something broke loose in the bottom of the boat, fuel or ballast tank. This caused a large weight shift to one side and resulted in the capsize.

 

We will see when the boat is lifted.

I haven't heard that rumour, and if going around in the tour business I would have heard.

[Ks45672]

On 7/13/2018 at 11:38 AM, grollies said:

How is the vessel unseaworthy?

 

Put any vessel in a beam sea, if waves and swell are heavy enough, it will capsize.

 

This was a result of poor seamanship..very poor seamanship.

Can't help but think if it was a catamaran style Ferry this wouldn't have happened

 

The ones I've been on in Europe were amazing and that was about 15+ years ago