bristolboy Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: Is North Korea threatening anyone since the meeting? Has it launched missiles at Japan or intruded into South Korea territory? Lil Kim has been well behaved since he met Trump. Well, I guess he's no longer a threat. And the problem is solved. And it's not like he's disrespected the United States: "U.S. negotiators’ attempts to hammer out an actual agreement have met significant resistance from North Korean officials, just as every North Korea expert in the world predicted they would. Despite rumors that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo might give Kim Jong-un a CD of Elton John’s “Rocket Man,” the North Koreans haven’t destroyed the missile testing facility Trump said they would, and have “canceled follow-up meetings, demanded more money, and failed to maintain basic communications, even as the once-isolated regime’s engagements with China and South Korea flourish,” according to U.S. diplomats who spoke with the Post. On top of all that, per an official U.S. intelligence assessment which was inexplicably leaked to multiple news organizations by numerous American officials, the North Koreans have been simultaneously plotting to deceive the Trump administration about the size, scale, and continuation of the nuclear weapons program Trump assured us they would be abandoning. " http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-realizing-its-north-koreas-reality-show-not-his.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: Is North Korea threatening anyone since the meeting? Has it launched missiles at Japan or intruded into South Korea territory? Lil Kim has been well behaved since he met Trump. Obviously you don't understand the long game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just let's hope he follows through with this. We should have nuked Tehran, Islamabad and Mecca decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: Is North Korea threatening anyone since the meeting? Has it launched missiles at Japan or intruded into South Korea territory? Lil Kim has been well behaved since he met Trump. He really is the best boy in class https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/north-korea-has-increased-nuclear-production-secret-sites-say-u-n887926 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 37 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: You conveniently forget that Iran was behind multiple terror attacks in Europe including bombings in the UK and Germany. You forget that Iran has threatened to send missiles against the UK and France. Yo forgetvthat Denmark was condemned. What exactly did I state was incorrect? Are you denying that Iran funds Hizbollah and has supported the shiite state within Lebanon? Are you denying that Iran has not backed shiite militants in Iraq? Are you denying the fact that Iran financed Islamic Jihad? Are you denying the incarceration of human rights activists in Iran, or the murder of thousands, or the recent murder of the biologist? Lack of balance in your statement, and not willing to see there is more than one sided factbook. Previous history where both sides trying to outplay the other parts, with allies and enemies. It is a deleted chess game with to many players on the bord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexterm Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 47 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: You conveniently forget that Iran was behind multiple terror attacks in Europe including bombings in the UK and Germany. You forget that Iran has threatened to send missiles against the UK and France. Yo forgetvthat Denmark was condemned. What exactly did I state was incorrect? Are you denying that Iran funds Hizbollah and has supported the shiite state within Lebanon? Are you denying that Iran has not backed shiite militants in Iraq? Are you denying the fact that Iran financed Islamic Jihad? Are you denying the incarceration of human rights activists in Iran, or the murder of thousands, or the recent murder of the biologist? You seem to forget that Trump's biggest buddy (only buddy??) has European targets in its sights for its real not imagined nuclear weapons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option Are you denying that USA funds the apartheid state of Israel? Whose defense is precisely what this brouhaha is all about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnThailandJohn Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Other countries should take notice, if they mess with the US they should expect an All CAP Twitter response. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TumblinDice Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Why is this clown still alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Srikcir said: And/or the law was very specific - applied to only permanent performers and not to visiting performers. Looks like the police tried to bend the law. Yeah, that is why the other girls stayed in jail, but somebody had to know the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 37 minutes ago, dexterm said: You seem to forget that Trump's biggest buddy (only buddy??) has European targets in its sights for its real not imagined nuclear weapons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option Are you denying that USA funds the apartheid state of Israel? Whose defense is precisely what this brouhaha is all about. Israel not Apartheid state. Jews and Arab share buses, toilets, restaurants, seat in parliament. Your comment Marxist Wahabit, Salafist judaphobia. Racist rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 41 minutes ago, dexterm said: You seem to forget that Trump's biggest buddy (only buddy??) has European targets in its sights for its real not imagined nuclear weapons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option Are you denying that USA funds the apartheid state of Israel? Whose defense is precisely what this brouhaha is all about. It gives the same amount of financial aid to Egypt. That's an Arab Muslim country in the MENA BTW.You seem short on fact and long on jew hate and anti USA propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexterm Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, The manic said: Israel not Apartheid state. Jews and Arab share buses, toilets, restaurants, seat in parliament. Your comment Marxist Wahabit, Salafist judaphobia. Racist rubbish. I would love to discuss Israel's latest Nation State Basic Law passed just last week, which now entrenches Israel's apartheid. But perhaps another more appropriate thread. Please don't confuse and conflate criticism of Israel and Zionism with anti Semitism. Edited July 23, 2018 by dexterm 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 9 hours ago, geriatrickid said: You forget that Iran has threatened to send missiles against the UK and France. Missiles that Iran doesn't yet possess. http://uk.businessinsider.com/iran-parades-missiles-and-jets-in-a-warning-to-us-uk-france-2018-4 Missiles that UK, France and the USA do possess as well as Israel and Saudi Arabia. Trump's repetitive threats of regime change in Iran are conducive to igniting an arm's race in the Middle East of "the likes that the world has never seen." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gecko123 Posted July 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2018 Wonder what Kim Jong-un thought when he read Trump's tweeted threat towards non-nuclear Iran. Full speed ahead with dismantling North Korea's nuclear program? Fat chance. What a chaotic and incoherent mess Trump has made of US foreign relations! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Gecko123 said: Wonder what Kim Jong-un thought when he read Trump's tweeted threat towards non-nuclear Iran. Full speed ahead with dismantling North Korea's nuclear program? Fat chance. What a chaotic and incoherent mess Trump has made of US foreign relations! I can promise you, there is not fat chance he is giving up his Nuclare! Libya is a good example of great chaos after decades with blockades, trheat of dissaster, fabricated news, and full on chaos after intervened by the west! What is true and not in this world is hard to know, and truth is a fine line of lies. Just ask @geriatrickid He know the truth about real Israel, and all the fabricated news against Israel, so why shouldnt it be the other way as well? Believing anything else would be at the best an illusion. Edited July 24, 2018 by Hummin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 An off-topic post has been removed. The topic isn't about Libya and the 'fake news' comments aren't going to cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Scott said: An off-topic post has been removed. The topic isn't about Libya and the 'fake news' comments aren't going to cut it. Inside the article, it was a statement from Gaddaffi and whats going to happen! How their society was, and how western propaganda made it possible to start an conflict, as they did with Iraq, and now want to do with Iran! It is a chain of happenings leads to this one! "Gaddafi wrote, “They want to do to Libya what they did to Iraq and what they are itching to do to Iran. They want to take back the oil, which was nationalized by these country’s revolutions. They want to re-establish military bases that were shut down by the revolutions and to install client regimes that will subordinate the country’s wealth and labor to imperialist corporate interests. All else is lies and deception.” http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-884508 Edited July 24, 2018 by Hummin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post attrayant Posted July 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2018 Just could not help but think of Grandpa Simpson when I saw that tweet. Of course it's merely a distraction from Manafort's trial and all the other sh!t that's raining down on Trump lately. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted July 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2018 I think we can all agree that the Middle East is a complete basket case with so many conflicting parties that it would take a lifetime to sort out. My gripe is the sheer hypocrisy of Trump who, when Obama was in power, took to Twitter with these little gems: I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 16, 2013 Don't let Obama play the Iran card in order to start a war in order to get elected–be careful Republicans! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2012 Now that Obama’s poll numbers are in tailspin – watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran.He is desperate. — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 9, 2012 I always said @BarackObama will attack Iran, in some form, prior to the election.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 16, 2012 In order to get elected, @BarackObama will start a war with Iran.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 29, 2011 @BarackObama will attack Iran in the not too distant future because it will help him win the election. If the… (cont) — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 14, 2011 What we REALLY have to worry about is that 'bomb another country to save your own declining popularity' is a gambit that may have crossed his mind once or twice in the past and one he may now call upon in the future. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 9:57 PM, geriatrickid said: Is North Korea threatening anyone since the meeting? Has it launched missiles at Japan or intruded into South Korea territory? When have the DPRK ever launched missiles at Japan? How many Japanese cities have they destroyed so far? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 11:32 PM, Hummin said: He really is the best boy in class https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/north-korea-has-increased-nuclear-production-secret-sites-say-u-n887926 How about real facts and not uncorroborated allegations? There is documented evidence that the key test sites are shut down and being dismantled. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/24/north-korea-satellite-images-show-dismantling-of-missile-test-facilities-report https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/north-korea-satellite-images-38-north-sohae/index.html The North is delivering on its undertaking,. This doesn't mean we have to love the man, but it does mean we have to recognize that the nuke testing sites are going. Iran needs to do the same and to stop threatening the USA. Again, I remind you that North Korea has not engaged in one act of intentional hostility against South Korea, Japan or the USA since the meeting with Trump. NOT ONE. Considering the fact that these acts, minor and serious, occurred on a daily basis, it is an accomplishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 7 hours ago, baboon said: When have the DPRK ever launched missiles at Japan? How many Japanese cities have they destroyed so far? North Korea launched its missiles at Japan. Those were not Issan firecrackers. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-latest-missile-test-ballistic-launch-trump-kim-jong-un-news-updates-a8080946.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/14/north-korea-files-another-ballistic-missile-japan-residents/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: How about real facts and not uncorroborated allegations? There is documented evidence that the key test sites are shut down and being dismantled. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/24/north-korea-satellite-images-show-dismantling-of-missile-test-facilities-report https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/north-korea-satellite-images-38-north-sohae/index.html The North is delivering on its undertaking,. This doesn't mean we have to love the man, but it does mean we have to recognize that the nuke testing sites are going. Iran needs to do the same and to stop threatening the USA. Again, I remind you that North Korea has not engaged in one act of intentional hostility against South Korea, Japan or the USA since the meeting with Trump. NOT ONE. Considering the fact that these acts, minor and serious, occurred on a daily basis, it is an accomplishment. And what did Iran do after the deal was signed? A are a bit one side minded in this world, arent you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post attrayant Posted July 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, geriatrickid said: I remind you that North Korea has not engaged in one act of intentional hostility against South Korea, Japan or the USA since the meeting with Trump. Just out of curiosity, why didn't you say "since the meeting with the South Korean president"? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted July 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, geriatrickid said: How about real facts and not uncorroborated allegations? There is documented evidence that the key test sites are shut down and being dismantled. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/24/north-korea-satellite-images-show-dismantling-of-missile-test-facilities-report https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/politics/north-korea-satellite-images-38-north-sohae/index.html The North is delivering on its undertaking,. This doesn't mean we have to love the man, but it does mean we have to recognize that the nuke testing sites are going. Iran needs to do the same and to stop threatening the USA. Again, I remind you that North Korea has not engaged in one act of intentional hostility against South Korea, Japan or the USA since the meeting with Trump. NOT ONE. Considering the fact that these acts, minor and serious, occurred on a daily basis, it is an accomplishment. Yes, acts on a daily basis provoked by USA foreign policy. And now USA foreign policy wants credit for stopping those acts. You're falling for it, I'm not. USA should stop threatening Iran, the present problems are caused by the USA, not by Iran. Edited July 25, 2018 by stevenl 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, geriatrickid said: North Korea launched its missiles at Japan. Those were not Issan firecrackers. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-latest-missile-test-ballistic-launch-trump-kim-jong-un-news-updates-a8080946.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/14/north-korea-files-another-ballistic-missile-japan-residents/ Missiles which were in outer space when over Japan, en route to the ocean. Not "at" Japan at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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