johng Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Vacuum said: They'll get the message... Maybe not if they are rabid ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, Pilotman said: I'm sorry, and I dont mean to be argumentative, everyone is entitled to an opinion. But, some of the Thai dogs are 'horrible', what, at being dogs? They are certainly territorial, but they're dogs. They can be quite aggressive, they're dogs. I don't have any mandate for dogs, I'm a person myself, and they can be just as 'horrible'. at being cats. The problem is not with the dogs, its with the owners, or the people that are closest to the dogs, usually the odd home owner who feed them occasionally. Destroying them is not the answer, controlling the population through selective sterilisation is much more effective. . This ones definitely a keeper, could breed for years if selectively sterilised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, PatOngo said: This ones definitely a keeper, could breed for years if selectively sterilised. So put to sleep the irresponsible people. Fantastic idea. I agree. But there is some kind of law against that so sorry it has to be the dogs that suffer. Humanity at its worst. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildewillie89 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Pilotman said: Destroying them is not the answer, controlling the population through selective sterilisation is much more effective. I agree that sterilisation is more effective than destroying. However, why it is difficult for sterilisation to be pushed through in Thai is because the law does not permit municipalities to buy drugs to faint the dogs for sterilisation to occur. Like many things in Thailand, too many departments are dealing with the one issue so they all end up screwing each other over. Sure, the provincial vet office does small to medium dogs for free, however, only a small percentage of people actually bother taking their dogs to be done. Not a large enough number to have an impact on population. As a result, everyone tries to pass the buck, local officials are those who feel the pressure and try to act, the law doesn't give them any power to act, so destroying animals is pushed through as a viable option - when it really shouldn't be. Tessabans are more than happy to run programs for mass sterilisation from their budget...but their hands are tied. Edited July 24, 2018 by wildewillie89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 57 minutes ago, wildewillie89 said: I agree that sterilisation is more effective than destroying. However, why it is difficult for sterilisation to be pushed through in Thai is because the law does not permit municipalities to buy drugs to faint the dogs for sterilisation to occur. Like many things in Thailand, too many departments are dealing with the one issue so they all end up screwing each other over. Sure, the provincial vet office does small to medium dogs for free, however, only a small percentage of people actually bother taking their dogs to be done. Not a large enough number to have an impact on population. As a result, everyone tries to pass the buck, local officials are those who feel the pressure and try to act, the law doesn't give them any power to act, so destroying animals is pushed through as a viable option - when it really shouldn't be. Tessabans are more than happy to run programs for mass sterilisation from their budget...but their hands are tied. sorry but that is not entirely accurate, some sterilisation projects are going on right now in the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELVIS123456 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283584138_Global_epidemiology_of_canine_rabies_Past_present_and_future_prospects Quote: "Progress has also been made recently in Asian and African countries. In Asia, an intersectoral rabies control program, based on two mass canine vaccination campaigns, succeeded in reducing human deaths and canine rabies cases to zero within 2 years on the island of Bohol in the Philippines. In Bali, Indonesia, two island-wide mass dog vaccination campaigns in 2010 and 2011 reduced the average number of rabid dogs reported each month from 45 to 6. An assess-ment of 4 years of improved rabies control intervention in Colombo City in Sri Lanka showed that the program had reduced dog rabies cases from an average of 43 per year in the period 2002–2005 to only two in the last 6 months of the intervention. Finally, in the Indian city of Jaipur, a combined vaccination and sterilization program between 1994 and 2002 decreased human deaths from the project area to zero, despite the population doubling over the course of the study and cases rising in other nearby areas." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 7 hours ago, IAMHERE said: Every dog you see is potentially your death instrument. Thailand needs to fix this problem or the tourist industry will die too. But we have all been assured that Thailand is a safe Holiday destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Pilotman said: The vast majority of soi dogs have little wrong with them, bar fleas, tricks and skin aliments . I have met a few with mental health issues too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 7 hours ago, humbug said: usual 'exterminating control freaks on here' 14 dead is that it, This isn't news,just an excuse for the animal abusers to post their misery how about people dying from road accidents thats news thats 27,000 dying every year people slipping on bath tiles and dying is probably more than 100 a year Bah Humbug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 5 hours ago, sniggie said: It was also in my son's school exercise book. A line drawing of a child being bitten by a dog and a corresponding picture to choose of same child having an injection. Everyone in our village knows what to do and takes it very seriously. Apart from sponsoring rabies carrying feral dogs or is yours different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stanleycoin Posted July 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) Prime example. All you people that feed the Soi dogs, create this. You toss pots, I hope your all real proud of yourselves. Edited July 24, 2018 by stanleycoin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Even without the rabies threat soi dogs need to be got rid of, what ever works just decide and DO IT, preferably just kill the pests on sight by using the army. They are traffic hazards, they shit everywhere, spread diseases and are a danger to children, quite apart from the noise nuisance. Thailand will always be looked at as a backward third world country if it cannot deal with basic problems like soi dogs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: Even without the rabies threat soi dogs need to be got rid of, what ever works just decide and DO IT, preferably just kill the pests on sight by using the army. They are traffic hazards, they shit everywhere, spread diseases and are a danger to children, quite apart from the noise nuisance. Thailand will always be looked at as a backward third world country if it cannot deal with basic problems like soi dogs. sound like you are describing some of the tourists in Pattaya, do you want them killed as well? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TumblinDice Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Its not the dogs fault. If the damn locals would take responsibility & spade/neuter/vaccinate their pets & not abandon them then it wouldn't be a problem. Wake up people & take accountability! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TumblinDice Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Orton Rd said: Even without the rabies threat soi dogs need to be got rid of, what ever works just decide and DO IT, preferably just kill the pests on sight by using the army. They are traffic hazards, they shit everywhere, spread diseases and are a danger to children, quite apart from the noise nuisance. Thailand will always be looked at as a backward third world country if it cannot deal with basic problems like soi dogs. And what are you doing to help out? Sitting on your axx complaining. Get off your fat axx & do something to help out your community!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 9 hours ago, tigermoth said: Until Thailand has some sort of laws against stray dogs or even owned dogs the government is responsible for these deaths. All dogs running loose must be caught and impounded and if not claimed within 48 houre destroyed. Owned dogs must be kept within the owners property and if outside the property must be on a leash, not alone. All dogs must have a collar with an identifying tag, a registration number or an address. Failure to comply with the above will result in a substantial fine, i.e. 10,000 to 20,000 baht. The above rules exist in most democratic countries in the world and rabies is extremely rare. Off you go then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, TumblinDice said: And what are you doing to help out? Sitting on your axx complaining. Get off your fat axx & do something to help out your community!! The spade you mentioned in POST 44 would come in handy for initial removal then digging the hole for permanent removal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Orton Rd said: Even without the rabies threat soi dogs need to be got rid of, what ever works just decide and DO IT, preferably just kill the pests on sight by using the army. They are traffic hazards, they shit everywhere, spread diseases and are a danger to children, quite apart from the noise nuisance. Thailand will always be looked at as a backward third world country if it cannot deal with basic problems like soi dogs. I saw more Shit on the footpath in England on holiday than I have ever seen in Thailand. Stepping in dog crap can't be real healthy. Especially for an Aussie wearing thongs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, TumblinDice said: And what are you doing to help out? Sitting on your axx complaining. Get off your fat axx & do something to help out your community!! Easier to type and whine rather than do something positive. But where would TVF be without these people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TumblinDice Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, oldlakey said: The spade you mentioned in POST 44 would come in handy for initial removal then digging the hole for permanent removal Your cute. Go ahead & do it then. Show how tough you are. Go bash their heads in & bury them. Cuz right now your nothing but a cowardly windbag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, tryasimight said: I saw more Shit on the footpath in England on holiday than I have ever seen in Thailand. Stepping in dog crap can't be real healthy. Especially for an Aussie wearing thongs. Or anybody else wearing thongs Certainly in February anyway But at least we are right out of rabies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, TumblinDice said: Your cute. Go ahead & do it then. Show how tough you are. Go bash their heads in & bury them. Cuz right now your nothing but a cowardly windbag. If you cant take it dont bother to hand it out No chance of yours truly picking up your dummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, TumblinDice said: And what are you doing to help out? Sitting on your axx complaining. Get off your fat axx & do something to help out your community!! Helping out is one thing, educating pork is another 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, TumblinDice said: Your cute. Go ahead & do it then. Show how tough you are. Go bash their heads in & bury them. Cuz right now your nothing but a cowardly windbag. And likely to end up on prison. Thailand has some fairly severe penalties for animal cruelty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TumblinDice Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Just now, tryasimight said: Easier to type and whine rather than do something positive. But where would TVF be without these people? I adopted a soi dog, got him cleaned up & brought him home to Canada. He's living the dream on a beautiful farm, chasing squirrels, barn cats, digging up moles, running with the horses. He's an absolute beautiful dog & my buddy. I am so glad I came across him. Too bad these a**holes on here have no compassion or care. They whine, bitch & complain but do nothing to help out. 1000B would vaccinate & neuter probably 5 dogs. But the cheap axx farang couldn't be bothered to offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TumblinDice Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, oldlakey said: If you cant take it dont bother to hand it out No chance of yours truly picking up your dummy No chance of yours truly picking up your dummy ??? You make no sense. Crawl back under your rock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, tryasimight said: And likely to end up on prison. Thailand has some fairly severe penalties for animal cruelty. Mine was a play on words as regards Spade and Spayed, I knew I should not of wasted my valuable time It was worth a chuckle though lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, TumblinDice said: No chance of yours truly picking up your dummy ??? You make no sense. Crawl back under your rock I can see you need to get out of the kennel a bit more often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TumblinDice Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Just now, oldlakey said: I can see you need to get out of the kennel a bit more often You are just too damn funny. Stop please, my sides are splitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben3636 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) Mai pen rai... Edited July 24, 2018 by Ben3636 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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