UK Labour's Corbyn trades barbs with Netanyahu on Mideast violence

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UK Labour's Corbyn trades barbs with Netanyahu on Mideast violence

 

Britain's opposition Labour party leader Jeremy Corbyn leaves his house in London, Britain, August 6, 2018. REUTERS/Toby Melville

 

(Reuters) - A furore over alleged anti-semitism in Britain's main opposition party widened on Monday when Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn exchanged accusations on Twitter over Israeli-Palestinian bloodshed.

 

Labour has been wrestling accusations of anti-semitism for months, and Corbyn has previously apologised for what he has described as "pockets" of anti-semitism in the organisation.

 

Britain's right-leaning Daily Mail on Friday reported that Corbyn, on a visit to Tunisia in 2014, had laid a wreath at the graves of members of a Palestinian group that killed 11 Israeli athletes and a German policeman at the 1972 Munich Olympics.

 

It said the cemetery houses a memorial to the dozens killed in the 1985 Israeli bombing of the Palestine Liberation Organisation headquarters in exile in Tunis, as well as the graves of members of Black September, a PLO splinter group that carried out the Munich attack.

 

It published a photograph it said showed Corbyn standing near the graves of Black September members.

 

Labour said Corbyn, a staunch supporter of the Palestinian cause, was in Tunis to honour the victims of the 1985 raid.

 

Unimpressed, Netanyahu said in a tweet:

"The laying of a wreath by Jeremy Corbyn on the graves of the terrorists who perpetrated the Munich massacre and his comparison of Israel to the Nazis deserves unequivocal condemnation from everyone – left, right and everything in between."

 

Corbyn responded: "Netanyahu's claims about my actions and words are false. What deserves unequivocal condemnation is the killing of over 160 Palestinian protesters in Gaza by Israeli forces since March, including dozens of children."

 

The Labour Party said Corbyn did not lay a wreath at the graves of anyone linked to Black September and he condemned the Munich attack. Corbyn however told reporters on Monday: "I was present when (a wreath) was laid, I don't think I was involved in it," adding that the visit was a peace-seeking exercise.

 

Despite deep divisions in the Conservative government as it negotiates Britain's exit from the European Union, Labour's poll standing appears to have been damaged by the anti-semitism row.

 

A YouGov poll last week showed that 39 percent of those asked would vote for the Conservatives, a gain of one point for May's party compared to last week when the two biggest parties were level. Labour dropped three points to 35 percent. 

 

(Writing and reporting by Elisabeth O'Leary in Edinburgh; Editing by William Maclean)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-08-14

[ezzra]

Forget the anti semite label, the fact that Corbyn is a staunch palestinian cause supporter is undeniable, he has shown that in many ways over his career, he's appealing to many, many other palestinian cause supporters in the UK for votes, on top of many, many other jews and Israel haters just for sake of hating and blaming someone when things turn bad, history is full of persecution and atrocities committed against jews when conditions called for an escape goat to blame, and Corbyn is just another link in this shameful game, deny and deflect as much as he would...

Edited August 13, 2018 by ezzra

[dexterm]

Interesting example of how a smear campaign (months long now..all dog whistle innuendo but not a single piece of concrete evidence against Corbyn who has spent his life fighting racism and anti-Semitism) by UK politicians and Israeli lobbyists trying to undermine Corbyn's leadership; this is how it works. All because of course they know that Corbyn finally has the integrity and honesty to criticize Israel's barbaric mistreatment of Palestinians, unlike the cosy arrangement Israel has with May's government.

 

 A party spokesman said: “Jeremy did not lay any wreath at the graves of those alleged to have been linked to the Black September organisation or the 1972 Munich killings. He of course condemns that terrible attack, as he does the 1985 bombing.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-not-involved-munich-olympics-massacre-wreath-laying.

 

The cemetery which houses a memorial to the dozens killed in the 1985 by the Israeli bombing of the Palestine Liberation Organisation headquarters in exile in Tunis, also contains graves to the PLO splinter group Black September. You just have be in the same cemetery for the besmirchers' dirty tricks

 

Note how the choice of words changes in the OP from "near" to "at" to "on"..

 

[The right wing Daily Mail]" published a photograph it said showed Corbyn standing near the graves of Black September members.

morphs to...
had laid a wreath at the graves of members

Netanyahu morphs that to ..
The laying of a wreath by Jeremy Corbyn on the graves of the terrorists.

 

Any photos of him actually laying a wreath on the graves of the Black September terrorists..nope! Because he did not. But that doesn't prevent over hyped gutter journalism.

 

But throw enough mud and hope some will stick.

 

Stand strong for the truth, Jeremy Corbyn, against all these foreign power lobbyists meddling in UK politics.

Edited August 14, 2018 by dexterm

[ezzra]

2 hours ago, dexterm said:

A party spokesman said: “Jeremy did not lay any wreath at the graves of those alleged to have been linked to the Black September organisation or the 1972 Munich killings. He of course condemns that terrible attack, as he does the 1985 bombing.”

Pictures suggest otherwise, also, why, as an aspiring politician, you allow yourself to even BE in such a controversial place? and visiting the graves of Israel bombing? my eye. didn't see Mr. Corbyn visiting any of the countless other memorial and sematries of other dead and fallen.. he's a selective bigot who only see the so called ' plight of the palestinians and no others, doesn't hide his disdain to Israel and now looking to go back on his vile remarks appealing to blowhards who like his despicable platform...

[pegman]

27 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Pictures suggest otherwise, also, why, as an aspiring politician, you allow yourself to even BE in such a controversial place? and visiting the graves of Israel bombing? my eye. didn't see Mr. Corbyn visiting any of the countless other memorial and sematries of other dead and fallen.. he's a selective bigot who only see the so called ' plight of the palestinians and no others, doesn't hide his disdain to Israel and now looking to go back on his vile remarks appealing to blowhards who like his despicable platform...

He is an anti-apartheidism champion and that's a good thing. 

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, dexterm said:

Interesting example of how a smear campaign (months long now..all dog whistle innuendo but not a single piece of concrete evidence against Corbyn who has spent his life fighting racism and anti-Semitism) by UK politicians and Israeli lobbyists trying to undermine Corbyn's leadership; this is how it works. All because of course they know that Corbyn finally has the integrity and honesty to criticize Israel's barbaric mistreatment of Palestinians, unlike the cosy arrangement Israel has with May's government.

 

 A party spokesman said: “Jeremy did not lay any wreath at the graves of those alleged to have been linked to the Black September organisation or the 1972 Munich killings. He of course condemns that terrible attack, as he does the 1985 bombing.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-not-involved-munich-olympics-massacre-wreath-laying.

 

The cemetery which houses a memorial to the dozens killed in the 1985 by the Israeli bombing of the Palestine Liberation Organisation headquarters in exile in Tunis, also contains graves to the PLO splinter group Black September. You just have be in the same cemetery for the besmirchers' dirty tricks

 

Note how the choice of words changes in the OP from "near" to "at" to "on"..

 

[The right wing Daily Mail]" published a photograph it said showed Corbyn standing near the graves of Black September members.

morphs to...
had laid a wreath at the graves of members

Netanyahu morphs that to ..
The laying of a wreath by Jeremy Corbyn on the graves of the terrorists.

 

Any photos of him actually laying a wreath on the graves of the Black September terrorists..nope! Because he did not. But that doesn't prevent over hyped gutter journalism.

 

But throw enough mud and hope some will stick.

 

Stand strong for the truth, Jeremy Corbyn, against all these foreign power lobbyists meddling in UK politics.

 

Where is the record of Corbyn fighting anti-semitism "all his life"

[terryw]

The photos prove he is a liar and his behaviour to Jews is racist.

[Morch]

 

@dexterm

 

 

A "smear campaign", says poster who spent years and thousands of posts almost exclusively engaged in a smear campaign. Oh well....

 

I don't know that Corbyn is an anti-Semite, but I'm fairly sure that he didn't actually spent his life fighting antisemitism other than in cheerleaders' imagination.

 

As for the rest of your post, like it or not there are photos of Corbyn with the wreath, which goes against his own statement of not being "actually involved". Nitpick and twist away. Regarding Corbyn's nonsense excuse, can't recall him globetrotting to attend memorials for victims of terrorism - unless they reinforce his political views.

 

The Guardian article actually gives a rather detailed explanation of the controversy. Obviously, you left out them parts not fitting your standing agenda, muddying the waters instead. Pretty much as Corbyn does.

[abrahamzvi]

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

Forget the anti semite label, the fact that Corbyn is a staunch palestinian cause supporter is undeniable, he has shown that in many ways over his career, he's appealing to many, many other palestinian cause supporters in the UK for votes, on top of many, many other jews and Israel haters just for sake of hating and blaming someone when things turn bad, history is full of persecution and atrocities committed against jews when conditions called for an escape goat to blame, and Corbyn is just another link in this shameful game, deny and deflect as much as he would...

Corbyn may have misjudged certain events, but he is definitely not an antisemite. He is against the Israeli settlements policies, against their anti Arab attitude (see the latest Israeli "Jewish Nation Law", against which hundreds of thousands Israelis have been protesting), but that doesn't mean that he is an antisemite. Quite frankly, if everybody who is against such policies is an antisemite, or a self hating Jew, than you should label a vast majority of democrats as antisemites. It is a typical Netanyahu policy to counter any criticism of his ulra right, neo-fascist policies, with inciting against "antisemites or self hating Jews" . I personally don't particularly like either Corbyn or Netanyahu, but if I had no other alternative, I would prefer Corbyn.

[Snow Leopard]

I don't really care what is views are. The man is a complete idiot. His policies and his politics are totally Marxist. I have seen the aftermath of these policies in the old Soviet Union right after the wall came down. Anyone who thinks that that was a fair society and a workers paradise think again. His views are best left at the beginning of the last century where they belong. 

[Jonmarleesco]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Netanyahu said in a tweet:

"... his comparison of Israel to the Nazis deserves unequivocal condemnation from everyone – left, right and everything in between."

Perhaps Bibi should take a closer look at himself, never mind Israel. 

[JAG]

2 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Where is the record of Corbyn fighting anti-semitism "all his life"

He was far too busy acting as Sinn Fein / PIRA's bagman at Westminster. 

[roobaa01]

i strongly hope the british jewish council sues corbyn for his antisemitis.

 

wbr

roobaa01

[Ron19]

Off topic post removed.

[dunroaming]

8 hours ago, ezzra said:

Forget the anti semite label, the fact that Corbyn is a staunch palestinian cause supporter is undeniable, he has shown that in many ways over his career, he's appealing to many, many other palestinian cause supporters in the UK for votes, on top of many, many other jews and Israel haters just for sake of hating and blaming someone when things turn bad, history is full of persecution and atrocities committed against jews when conditions called for an escape goat to blame, and Corbyn is just another link in this shameful game, deny and deflect as much as he would...

But he is ostracising many Jewish Labour Party members too, and there are a lot of them.  Look behind the headlines.  This is all about the knives that are out for Corbyn, many of them from within the Labour party itself.  As I keep saying (ranting) Corbyn (IMO) is being set up for a leadership challenge.  There are plots and scheming going in in both the main parties because they all smell blood.

 

Politics is a dirty business and there are certainly plenty of dirty politicians around at the moment! 

[dexterm]

OP...
"Labour has been wrestling accusations of anti-semitism for months, and Corbyn has previously apologised for what he has described as "pockets" of anti-semitism in the organisation."

 

It is amazing  that a man who has spent his entire political life fighting fascism, racism and anti Semitism, should be accused of the latter now.

"Jeremy Corbyn has spent his political life in absolute opposition to racism in whatever filthy form it manifests itself,  and not just with words.

On the 23 April 1977 Jeremy Corbyn, then a councillor in Haringey, joined a 12,000 strong anti-Nazi demonstration which stopped the fascist National Front marching through Wood Green."

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/jermey-corbyn-antisemitism-jews-labour-australia-cricket-a8274151.html

 

Corbyn who 40 years ago was instrumental in forming the ANL (Anti Nazi League)

 

But no surprise at all when you consider where the current Get Corbyn smear campaign is coming from..Netanyahu's racist right wing government. Corbyn's criticism is of Israel's racist treatment of Palestinians, not Judaism or Jews.

 

OP...
Corbyn responded: "Netanyahu's claims about my actions and words are false. What deserves unequivocal condemnation is the killing of over 160 Palestinian protesters in Gaza by Israeli forces since March, including dozens of children."

[roobaa01]

in july the knesset passed a law giving israel the right of self-determination, downgrading the arab vernacular ever since then arabs, left wingers running berserk throwing tantrums 5555

 

wbr

roobaa01

[Morch]

 

@dexterm

 

Seriously, is that the best you can do? Link a letter to the editor from an left-wing activist pretty much seeing eye-to-eye with him on most issues? It's about as credible as referencing one of your  own posts as a valid support for claims made.

 

While some seem keen on making the guy a hero, let's bear in mind he's a career politician - doubt he did an honest day's job in his life. Considering he's not really mentioned in the ANL Wikipedia page, nor is there much reference to his "instrumental" involvement in "forming" the ANL on his own Wikipedia page, I kinda think you're exaggerating some. Corbyn campaigned on anti-racism ticket, sure. I don't know that there was a whole lot of "involvement" when it came to anti-antisemitism specifically, though.

 

And like Corbyn, you're deflecting. Rather than address his questionable actions, and problematic statements - the answer is but but but Israel.

[bristolboy]

23 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

@dexterm

 

While some seem keen on making the guy a hero, let's bear in mind he's a career politician - doubt he did an honest day's job in his life.

Doubt no more:

Returning to the UK in 1971, he worked as an official for the National Union of Tailors and Garment Workers.^[14] Corbyn began a course in Trade Union Studies at North London Polytechnic but left after a year without a degree after a series of arguments with his tutors over the curriculum.^[23][24] He worked as a trade union organiser for the National Union of Public Employees and Amalgamated Engineering and Electrical Union,^[14][18][25] where his union was approached by Tony Benn and "encouraged ... to produce a blueprint for workers' control of British Leyland"; the plans did not proceed after Benn was moved to a different Department.^[26]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Corbyn}

[Scott]

Troll post reported and removed.  

[jinners]

18 hours ago, dexterm said:

Interesting example of how a smear campaign (months long now..all dog whistle innuendo but not a single piece of concrete evidence against Corbyn who has spent his life fighting racism and anti-Semitism) by UK politicians and Israeli lobbyists trying to undermine Corbyn's leadership; this is how it works. All because of course they know that Corbyn finally has the integrity and honesty to criticize Israel's barbaric mistreatment of Palestinians, unlike the cosy arrangement Israel has with May's government.

 

 A party spokesman said: “Jeremy did not lay any wreath at the graves of those alleged to have been linked to the Black September organisation or the 1972 Munich killings. He of course condemns that terrible attack, as he does the 1985 bombing.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/13/jeremy-corbyn-not-involved-munich-olympics-massacre-wreath-laying.

 

The cemetery which houses a memorial to the dozens killed in the 1985 by the Israeli bombing of the Palestine Liberation Organisation headquarters in exile in Tunis, also contains graves to the PLO splinter group Black September. You just have be in the same cemetery for the besmirchers' dirty tricks

 

Note how the choice of words changes in the OP from "near" to "at" to "on"..

 

[The right wing Daily Mail]" published a photograph it said showed Corbyn standing near the graves of Black September members.

morphs to...
had laid a wreath at the graves of members

Netanyahu morphs that to ..
The laying of a wreath by Jeremy Corbyn on the graves of the terrorists.

 

Any photos of him actually laying a wreath on the graves of the Black September terrorists..nope! Because he did not. But that doesn't prevent over hyped gutter journalism.

 

But throw enough mud and hope some will stick.

 

Stand strong for the truth, Jeremy Corbyn, against all these foreign power lobbyists meddling in UK politics.

Doesn't matter how much you try to use your one sided opinions on a terrorist sympathizing communist. He has been photographed holding the wreath. Like he supports Hamas, IRA and many other disgraceful terror organisations, he was also holding a wreath for the Israeli murderers. Scum bag. 

[jinners]

15 hours ago, pegman said:

He is an anti-apartheidism champion and that's a good thing. 

He is also an anti semite terrorist sypathiser. Cherry picking causes and always steering clear of anything comes close to Israeli or Jew support, and lets not get into his support for the IRA.

[Snow Leopard]

4 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Doubt no more:

Returning to the UK in 1971, he worked as an official for the National Union of Tailors and Garment Workers.^[14] Corbyn began a course in Trade Union Studies at North London Polytechnic but left after a year without a degree after a series of arguments with his tutors over the curriculum.^[23][24] He worked as a trade union organiser for the National Union of Public Employees and Amalgamated Engineering and Electrical Union,^[14][18][25] where his union was approached by Tony Benn and "encouraged ... to produce a blueprint for workers' control of British Leyland"; the plans did not proceed after Benn was moved to a different Department.^[26]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Corbyn}

What a glittering career. My god. 

[Snow Leopard]

10 hours ago, dexterm said:

OP...
"Labour has been wrestling accusations of anti-semitism for months, and Corbyn has previously apologised for what he has described as "pockets" of anti-semitism in the organisation."

 

It is amazing  that a man who has spent his entire political life fighting fascism, racism and anti Semitism, should be accused of the latter now.

"Jeremy Corbyn has spent his political life in absolute opposition to racism in whatever filthy form it manifests itself,  and not just with words.

On the 23 April 1977 Jeremy Corbyn, then a councillor in Haringey, joined a 12,000 strong anti-Nazi demonstration which stopped the fascist National Front marching through Wood Green."

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/jermey-corbyn-antisemitism-jews-labour-australia-cricket-a8274151.html

 

Corbyn who 40 years ago was instrumental in forming the ANL (Anti Nazi League)

 

But no surprise at all when you consider where the current Get Corbyn smear campaign is coming from..Netanyahu's racist right wing government. Corbyn's criticism is of Israel's racist treatment of Palestinians, not Judaism or Jews.

 

OP...
Corbyn responded: "Netanyahu's claims about my actions and words are false. What deserves unequivocal condemnation is the killing of over 160 Palestinian protesters in Gaza by Israeli forces since March, including dozens of children."

I don't care where any campaign comes from to get Corbyn as long as they get him. I never see him standing up for the rights of the Jews and Judaism who historically have more right to be there in that place and that area than there counterparts on the Arab/Palestinian side do.

 

They simply want to be there because it is sacred to Christianity. 

 

 

[bristolboy]

54 minutes ago, Snow Leopard said:

What a glittering career. My god. 

What spectacular incomprehension on your part. That was only the first few years of his working life. If you want to talk about his career there are 40+ more to consider.

[rwdrwdrwd]

21 hours ago, ezzra said:

Forget the anti semite label, the fact that Corbyn is a staunch palestinian cause supporter is undeniable, he has shown that in many ways over his career, he's appealing to many, many other palestinian cause supporters in the UK for votes, on top of many, many other jews and Israel haters just for sake of hating and blaming someone when things turn bad, history is full of persecution and atrocities committed against jews when conditions called for an escape goat to blame, and Corbyn is just another link in this shameful game, deny and deflect as much as he would...

Where has he denied he supports the Palestinian cause?

He has stated "The next Labour government will recognise Palestine as a state as one step towards a genuine two-state solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict". And plenty of people consider this a good thing, myself included.

Likewise not signing up to the badly conceived IHRA definition https://freespeechonisrael.org.uk/ihra-opinion/#sthash.IP1tmK3q.dpbs

And screw Netanyahu and his opinions - dreadful individual.

Edited August 14, 2018 by rwdrwdrwd

[vogie]

4 hours ago, bristolboy said:

What spectacular incomprehension on your part. That was only the first few years of his working life. If you want to talk about his career there are 40+ more to consider.

Most of us would rather not hear about Corbyns career as a terrorist sympathiser, but thanks for the offer.

[GroveHillWanderer]

21 hours ago, Morch said:

As for the rest of your post, like it or not there are photos of Corbyn with the wreath, which goes against his own statement of not being "actually involved". 

There are pictures of Corbyn with a wreath being laid in a location dedicated to those killed in the 1985 bombing in Tunis (including Tunisian civilians). This bombing was widely condemned at the time, including by the UN by a 14-0 vote of the UN Security Council.

 

There is no photo of him being involved with the laying of a separate wreath in a different location which was near the grave of a PLO member named Salah Khalaf who is believed by some (including Israel) to have been the mastermind behind the Black September group that carried out the 1972 Munich massacre. No member of the Black September group or anyone actually involved in the attack on the Munich Olympics is buried in Tunis.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/14/labour-calls-claims-about-corbyn-palestinian-cemetery-visit-false

[Snow Leopard]

7 hours ago, bristolboy said:

What spectacular incomprehension on your part. That was only the first few years of his working life. If you want to talk about his career there are 40+ more to consider.

I have no incomprehension at all?

40+ years doing exactly what?

 

The guy has spent his whole life doing exactly nothing except protesting against or complaining against this and that wrong cause. A total oxygen thief.

 

2 x Grade E - A Levels.

Kicked out of Trade Union Studies (Whatever that is) at Poly.

 

Does this qualify him to be the leader of the UK? He would be better leading North Korea. Oh sorry,  they have nuclear weapons so maybe not a good choice.

 

It's like that other Labour idiot Prescott. Being a shop steward and cook on a North Sea car ferry qualified him to be transport minister and deputy Prime Minister.

[bert bloggs]

7 hours ago, bristolboy said:

What spectacular incomprehension on your part. That was only the first few years of his working life. If you want to talk about his career there are 40+ more to consider.

Yes doing no real work ,look it up. the guy is a disgrace and if he ever led the Labour party (as it is now) he would destroy Britain .